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Ren Oren Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 61	Posted - 2014.12.21 21:44:41 - [1] - Quote Well been sitting in station and notice Perimeter local go from 60 to 145 because of the Traffic Control Traffic Jam. Two critical things happen after warping 1) You will have no idea Jita is traffic jammed until you attempt to jump through the gate at 0 2) A notification pops up telling you the gate is traffic jammed and for that moment you cannot activate mods/warp until you close it. A few wardecers have reportedly gotten some kills from it (can't confirm) Is this working as intended? Or was there some warning prior to landing on 0 at the Jita that I may have not seen (other then the 50 freighters on gate, lol) -Thanks in advance
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 5631	Posted - 2014.12.21 21:49:26 - [2] - Quote Who goes to Jita with a wardec? It's a killmail waiting to happen, traffic jam or no traffic jam. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
Paranoid Loyd 3172	Posted - 2014.12.21 21:50:56 - [3] - Quote Why do beavers build dams? "Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Ren Oren Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 61	Posted - 2014.12.21 21:51:23 - [4] - Quote Abrazzar wrote: Who goes to Jita with a wardec? It's a killmail waiting to happen, traffic jam or no traffic jam. ceptor magic
Icarus Able Revenant Tactical 515	Posted - 2014.12.21 21:52:48 - [5] - Quote Abrazzar wrote: Who goes to Jita with a wardec? It's a killmail waiting to happen, traffic jam or no traffic jam. If you arent terrible its fine.
Foxicity Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 47	Posted - 2014.12.21 22:05:08 - [6] - Quote Had something similar happen to me today. Ran to Jita to pick up some stuff. Landed on gate and got that popup and my brain was like "GET THE F* OUT OF THERE! GET THE F* OUT OF THERE!" since Blue Republic minions would have had me dead to rights in my travel-fit ceptor. Made it out okay, but I can relate. This sucks. Not to mention marketers/haulers having their assets frozen in Jita. Definitely a problem.
Ren Oren Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 62	Posted - 2014.12.21 22:13:28 - [7] - Quote Foxicity wrote: Had something similar happen to me today. Ran to Jita to pick up some stuff. Landed on gate and got that popup and my brain was like "GET THE F* OUT OF THERE! GET THE F* OUT OF THERE!" since Blue Republic minions would have had me dead to rights in my travel-fit ceptor. Made it out okay, but I can relate. This sucks. Not to mention marketers/haulers having their assets frozen in Jita. Definitely a problem. Imagine if it was a blockade runner, decloacked at 0, delayed by the notification on top of the 3-4 second align time. Warp disruptor bubble on steroids in HS
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 18703	Posted - 2014.12.21 22:23:59 - [8] - Quote Anyone who goes to a tradehub during a wardec deserves whatever they get. Anyone going to Jita deserves whatever they get. Anyone who hasn't figured out the traffic jam at the Perimeter gate during peak hours deserves whatever they get. Anyone who goes to Jita, during a wardec, during high traffic times.... well, you get the point. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?* Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
Garnoo Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation 123	Posted - 2014.12.21 23:22:51 - [9] - Quote thats why all hisec should vote for boosting nullsec so more and more people will make tidi there and not in your beloved hisec trade hubs :) People are going to try to ruin your day. Get together with others, ruin their day back --á EvE
Mara Pahrdi The Order of Anoyia 889	Posted - 2014.12.21 23:29:03 - [10] - Quote Don't use the Perimeter gate while inbound to Jita. Remove insurance. This thread is the reason, why CCP should stop advertising any aspect of EVE PvE
Kiandoshia Applied Anarchy SpaceMonkey's Alliance 1947	Posted - 2014.12.22 00:07:00 - [11] - Quote Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Anyone who goes to a tradehub during a wardec deserves whatever they get. Anyone going to Jita deserves whatever they get. Anyone who hasn't figured out the traffic jam at the Perimeter gate during peak hours deserves whatever they get. Anyone who goes to Jita, during a wardec, during high traffic times.... well, you get the point. This essentially. Don't go to Jita between 1800 and 0000 Eve time, especially not on a weekend.
Hippinse University of Caille Gallente Federation 23	Posted - 2014.12.22 00:32:09 - [12] - Quote This mechanic may cause me problems when I'm auto-piloting my anti-tanked freighter full of PLEX to Jita while wardec'd. Please fix.
Hippinse University of Caille Gallente Federation 23	Posted - 2014.12.22 00:38:37 - [13] - Quote Hippinse wrote: This mechanic may cause me problems when I'm auto-piloting my anti-tanked freighter full of PLEX to Jita while wardec'd. Please fix. ...and I feel like I'm forgetting something...
Mharius Skjem Opacity Circles 264	Posted - 2014.12.22 00:53:22 - [14] - Quote Ren Oren wrote: Well been sitting in station and notice Perimeter local go from 60 to 145 because of the Traffic Control Traffic Jam. Two critical things happen after warping 1) You will have no idea Jita is traffic jammed until you attempt to jump through the gate at 0 2) A notification pops up telling you the gate is traffic jammed and for that moment you cannot activate mods/warp until you close it. A few wardecers have reportedly gotten some kills from it (can't confirm) Is this working as intended? Or was there some warning prior to landing on 0 at the Jita that I may have not seen (other then the 50 freighters on gate, lol) -Thanks in advance Working as intended. It's all about risk management. A recovering btter vet, with a fresh toon and a determination to like everything that CCP does to Eve... Don't take me too seriously though, I like to tease a bit on the forums, but that's only because I love you...
Mharius Skjem Opacity Circles 264	Posted - 2014.12.22 00:54:18 - [15] - Quote Hippinse wrote: This mechanic may cause me problems when I'm auto-piloting my anti-tanked freighter full of PLEX to Jita while wardec'd. Please fix. I'm now thinking of becoming a pirate. A recovering btter vet, with a fresh toon and a determination to like everything that CCP does to Eve... Don't take me too seriously though, I like to tease a bit on the forums, but that's only because I love you...
Laken Starr Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance 44	Posted - 2014.12.22 07:04:59 - [16] - Quote Hippinse wrote: Hippinse wrote: This mechanic may cause me problems when I'm AFK auto-piloting my anti-tanked freighter full of PLEX to Jita while wardec'd. Please fix. ...and I feel like I'm forgetting something... Fixed!
Ren Oren Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 65	Posted - 2014.12.22 08:06:05 - [17] - Quote Thank You eve bros, I feel enlightened and excited to take on the skys!!! Also I have my "Deal With It" glasses on in case that advice was given Again thank you bows Its 3am, must sleep
Chopper Rollins Lantean Empire 992	Posted - 2014.12.22 08:14:52 - [18] - Quote Who cares about wardec casualties? Confirming packed Perimeter peak time gate is a fave of smartbomb BS comedians looking to remedy that shamefully high sec status that null ratting bestows. Dem quarter billion pods. Dem angry evemails. Get out of highsec. Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
Chal0ner Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate 82	Posted - 2014.12.22 08:42:15 - [19] - Quote Ren Oren wrote: Well been sitting in station and notice Perimeter local go from 60 to 145 because of the Traffic Control Traffic Jam. When I started playing I had Jita as my home system. Thought it was a brilliant idea, until the node crashed 1 week into the game ... couldn't log in for a couple of days.
Barrogh Habalu Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire 824	Posted - 2014.12.22 08:49:29 - [20] - Quote It's kinda a problem. You can sidestep it by using Amarr/Dodixie though. There's also Rens and Hek, but those are way smaller.
Serene Repose 1839	Posted - 2014.12.22 11:07:35 - [21] - Quote Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Anyone who goes to a tradehub during a wardec deserves whatever they get. Anyone going to Jita deserves whatever they get. Anyone who hasn't figured out the traffic jam at the Perimeter gate during peak hours deserves whatever they get. Anyone who goes to Jita, during a wardec, during high traffic times.... well, you get the point. Oh unmerciful UAE show us some digital kindness. We beg of you. Treason never prospers. What is the reason? Why, if it prospers, none dare call it "treason."
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 4792	Posted - 2014.12.22 11:31:04 - [22] - Quote Click Jump, hit enter, repeat until "session change in progress" flags up. After hammering at like 20 requests/second for a couple of seconds you'll jump. But yeah, don't go to Jita during a wardec. That's what alts are for. If you don't have alts, that's what red frog are for. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan 7157	Posted - 2014.12.22 12:05:45 - [23] - Quote 1) Its War-deccer. Two c's. 2) I think you mean Wartarget. There's nothing about a jam that make's declaring war itself more or less attractive. "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á_- _CCP Falcon
Gully Alex Foyle Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop 2843	Posted - 2014.12.22 13:18:51 - [24] - Quote Lol this thread comes up often. Good news is, if it happens it usually means lots of people are online. As for ways to prevent being a sitting duck on the gate: 1. Always assume there might be issues when 40,000+ people are online 2. Scan gate 3. Try to jump with something cheap (though, to be fair, I'd imagine lag and annoying pop-ups MIGHT make it difficult to get your pod out with insta-lockers on gate) 4. Try logging in an alt that's sitting in Jita 5. Ask in local, though highseccers don't always use local Obviously if you can avoid going to Jita, especially during peak times, you'll solve the issue completely. Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
Nerath Naaris Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy 925	Posted - 2014.12.22 17:41:11 - [25] - Quote Confirming that there is only a single gate into Jita..... Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20.
Inxentas Ultramar Ultramar Independent Contracting 1617	Posted - 2014.12.22 22:35:40 - [26] - Quote Make courier contracts by sneaking into the Forge to purchase goods. Laugh as the peasants blow up and you make ISK over collateral. But what do I know... I live in lowsec, I seldom see war targets. Assets being "frozen" to in-corp haulers is the bloody point of a wardec isn't it? Stressing logistics is a valid war strategy as far as I am concerned. Jita's traffic jams might take a cloaky hauler that doesn't know any better by surprise, but it will be a learning experience that should happen exactly once in ones Eve career.
ISD Ezwal ISD Community Communications Liaisons 3088	Posted - 2014.12.22 22:46:02 - [27] - Quote Ren Oren wrote: Is this working as intended? YES. ISD Ezwal Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Tear Jar Emolgranlan Code Enforcement Branch 237	Posted - 2014.12.22 23:15:06 - [28] - Quote Abrazzar wrote: Who goes to Jita with a wardec? It's a killmail waiting to happen, traffic jam or no traffic jam. Eve Uni gets most of it Loss mails at trade hubs Newer/lazier/dumber players stay in wardecced corps and don't use alts and courier contracts to trade.
Zimmy Zeta Lisa Needs Braces. 51939	Posted - 2014.12.22 23:24:35 - [29] - Quote Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Anyone who goes to a tradehub during a wardec deserves whatever they get. Anyone going to Jita deserves whatever they get. ... but...but....but.. Jita is Love I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
Tear Jar Emolgranlan Code Enforcement Branch 237	Posted - 2014.12.22 23:29:57 - [30] - Quote Inxentas Ultramar wrote: Make courier contracts by sneaking into the Forge to purchase goods. Laugh as the peasants blow up and you make ISK over collateral. But what do I know... I live in lowsec, I seldom see war targets. Assets being "frozen" to in-corp haulers is the bloody point of a wardec isn't it? Stressing logistics is a valid war strategy as far as I am concerned. Jita's traffic jams might take a cloaky hauler that doesn't know any better by surprise, but it will be a learning experience that should happen exactly once in ones Eve career. Only idiots have in corp haulers though. Any hauling should be done in a 1 man corp. Haulers are obvious targets for awoxers and wardecs. Good thing Eve is full of idiots.
Sugar Smacks State War Academy Caldari State 13	Posted - 2014.12.22 23:45:05 - [31] - Quote That gate you speak of just outside of Jita seems to be a very profitable place. I personally witnessed a multi bil blockade runner get blapped in a huge traffic jam there before. I don't know about wardecs but all out ganking seems to be working there.
Claud Tiberius Fidelas Constans 86	Posted - 2014.12.22 23:55:28 - [32] - Quote Just wait until military caps can enter High Sec. It's going to be grid-lock 24/7 Once upon a time the Golem had a Raven hull and it looked good. Then it transformed into a plataduck. The end.
Gallowmere Rorschach Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation 906	Posted - 2014.12.22 23:58:49 - [33] - Quote Claud Tiberius wrote: Just wait until military caps can enter High Sec. It's going to be grid-lock 24/7 I have a funny feeling that they won't be allowed in Jita, even when (if) the gates to highsec are reopened to them. There are already several things disallowed in that system, so I am expecting another to be added at that time.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 1929	Posted - 2014.12.23 04:26:10 - [34] - Quote If you're flying into the single most heavily populated system in the game while at war without the means to defend yourself even though access to that system is often restricted due to traffic you're a goodamned moron. You've got it coming.
McChicken Combo HalfMayo The Happy Meal 162	Posted - 2014.12.23 22:45:00 - [35] - Quote It's unfortunate if the player is new but also a good learning experience. I see players who are years old complain about it though. They should feel bad. There are gates with next to no traffic where you can wait to enter if you need to, something I learned in my first month. ~ Bookmarks in overview ~ Fleet improvements
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 18833	Posted - 2014.12.23 23:13:22 - [36] - Quote Zimmy Zeta wrote: but...but....but.. Jita is Love ..And my wife once said "love is pain." Long story there.. Anyways, if we take into account the above revelations, we can deduce that 'Jita is a pain'. ::LOGIC FTW:: *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?* Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
McChicken Combo HalfMayo The Happy Meal 163	Posted - 2014.12.24 04:08:48 - [37] - Quote Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Zimmy Zeta wrote: but...but....but.. Jita is Love ..And my wife once said "love is pain." Long story there.. We've got time. ~ Bookmarks in overview ~ Fleet improvements
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 7164	Posted - 2014.12.24 04:12:45 - [38] - Quote Jita? That's still a thing? Who would have thought? Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
Xuixien The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People 1958	Posted - 2014.12.24 14:35:54 - [39] - Quote When I go to Jita, it's a quick in and out, I use protection, and I make sure to shower afterwards. *Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist*
Kaarous Aldurald Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 10932	Posted - 2014.12.24 14:46:17 - [40] - Quote Are we still surprised that predators hang around the watering hole too? "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
War Kitten Panda McLegion 5676	Posted - 2014.12.24 18:10:51 - [41] - Quote ~~Mos Eisley~~Jita spaceport: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
Sol Project I'm So Meta Even This Acronym 872	Posted - 2014.12.24 18:11:51 - [42] - Quote You too a merry christmas!
Newt BlackCompany BlackCompany Personal Corp 17	Posted - 2014.12.24 18:29:34 - [43] - Quote Yes. During Burn-Jita, CFC tries to log in as many alts as possible in Jita to make it jam, so all their targets get stuck on the gates. AFAIK, it's always worked this way.
Darren Airtex Born Imperialism Defiant Legacy 8	Posted - 2014.12.24 18:38:04 - [44] - Quote That's strange, I have never noticed a traffic jam in Jita. Then again, I have yet had the desire to go to jita.
Badden Powell Future Dynamics 21	Posted - 2014.12.25 00:27:48 - [45] - Quote Abrazzar wrote: Who goes to Jita with a wardec? It's a killmail waiting to happen, traffic jam or no traffic jam. This. Just this.

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