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Sabriz Adoudel Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 4181	Posted - 2014.12.22 09:11:29 - [1] - Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9yugcNW_xI This is hilarious. Watch it, but don't be that idiot that watches it while holding a drink. /runs off to clean coke up from all over my computer Chaos. Opportunity. Destruction. Excitement... Vote #1 Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10
Pak Narhoo Splinter Foundation 1551	Posted - 2014.12.22 09:19:43 - [2] - Quote That's not a parody, it's a rant. Clearly he's been touched by some bad guy(s). Sad.
Sol Project I'm So Meta Even This Acronym 789	Posted - 2014.12.22 09:29:26 - [3] - Quote Oh look, the baby hater. Funny christmas video
Chopper Rollins Lantean Empire 992	Posted - 2014.12.22 10:05:58 - [4] - Quote Poor guy, bad attitude, inarticulate, not entertaining. I wanted to quit every week for the first six months. Sometimes i think masochism is a valid posture for coping with an environment that exposes you to extended periods of shoddy treatment. On the other hand, a poor/inferior attitude makes anywhere awful, because you bring the awful with you. "Where i fly am hell, for i am hell."- Satan, Paradise Lost. Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
Alastair Ormand Running With Scissors. Apocalypse Now. 105	Posted - 2014.12.22 10:11:31 - [5] - Quote Edit: Sorry missed some details, post retracted. Don't run with a stick in your mouth.
Arla Sarain 204	Posted - 2014.12.22 10:11:37 - [6] - Quote much parody many wow l2eve For realsies.
Eternus8lux8lucis Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM 313	Posted - 2014.12.22 10:14:29 - [7] - Quote I didnt find it funny at all tbh, its not a parody its just sad. Strength isnt measured in numbers but in force of will. For if one motived willful individual stands many will fall around him that are weak. http://tinyurl.com/YarrFace
Jayem See CTRL-Q Iron Oxide. 3575	Posted - 2014.12.22 10:16:44 - [8] - Quote Damn you. Made me go back and watch the original for the 119th time...... Aaaaaaand relax.
Eugene Kerner TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory. 1464	Posted - 2014.12.22 10:17:39 - [9] - Quote This is literally **. The one who is voicing it is even worse. At least eve has a profanity filter so noone is offended when I say: this video, the speaker, and ** you for stealing 2 minutes of my life. TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] " -á CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
Desert Ice78 Gryphons of the Western Wind 439	Posted - 2014.12.22 10:29:42 - [10] - Quote Jayem See wrote: Damn you. Made me go back and watch the original for the 119th time...... Ditto. I am a pod pilot: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/DesertIce/POD.jpg CCP Zulu: Came expecting a discussion about computer monitors, left confused.
Mharius Skjem Opacity Circles 268	Posted - 2014.12.22 10:30:22 - [11] - Quote Sabriz Adoudel wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9yugcNW_xI This is hilarious. Watch it, but don't be that idiot that watches it while holding a drink. /runs off to clean coke up from all over my computer I didn't laugh once. Some whiney turd who doesn't get eve. We're all better of without him as a community. A recovering btter vet, with a fresh toon and a determination to like everything that CCP does to Eve... Don't take me too seriously though, I like to tease a bit on the forums, but that's only because I love you...
Josef Djugashvilis 2815	Posted - 2014.12.22 10:38:54 - [12] - Quote Good visual rant. This is not a signature.
Sol Project I'm So Meta Even This Acronym 793	Posted - 2014.12.22 10:41:28 - [13] - Quote Sabriz Adoudel wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9yugcNW_xI This is hilarious. Watch it, but don't be that idiot that watches it while holding a drink. /runs off to clean coke up from all over my computer edit - either some people's sarcasm detectors are broken, or noone noticed this was posted by a Miniluv member. Well I started it. Watched the first seconds ... "**** EVE" ... and closed it. Wow, you really are one hating person if you find this somehow funny. Not everything can be declared as sarcasm and you can get away with it. lol that backfired horribly. "Babies scream all the time, for no good reason" - Sabriz Adoudel post That'll make a great CSM member, right?
Serene Repose 1838	Posted - 2014.12.22 11:12:50 - [14] - Quote That was just bad. The next time you want to share a video with us - don't. TYVM Have a nice day. Treason never prospers. What is the reason? Why, if it prospers, none dare call it "treason."
Grauth Thorner Vicious Trading Company 351	Posted - 2014.12.22 11:15:59 - [15] - Quote Sabriz Adoudel wrote: ... This is hilarious ... How? Creator of the EVE Custom Ship Labeler app: >EVE Custom Ship Labeler application forum thread >iciclesoft.com
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 4792	Posted - 2014.12.22 11:24:53 - [16] - Quote To be fair, it's pretty accurate. People are generally so intent on killing people and going "but it's PvP in a PvP game trollolol" that they ignore the fact that games are supposed to be entertainment. It's not like I'd opt for a PvPless game, but look at the reaction when a newbie has a hard time, people immediately respond with "can I have your stuff" or "bye then!" and alienating them rather than trying to encourage them to enjoy EVE for the same reasons the rest of us do. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
Gregor Parud 806	Posted - 2014.12.22 11:31:58 - [17] - Quote Not worth the attention tbh.
Gaylord Gallente Dark-Rising Federation 0	Posted - 2014.12.22 11:36:06 - [18] - Quote YES. EPIC. TEARS.
Yourmoney Mywallet Jita Institute of Applied Monetary Manipulation 236	Posted - 2014.12.22 11:37:25 - [19] - Quote Sabriz Adoudel wrote: This is hilarious. Some people are easily entertained. Really, really easily entertained.
Gaylord Gallente Dark-Rising Federation 0	Posted - 2014.12.22 11:50:49 - [20] - Quote To me the "parody" looks more like an adaption of a frustrated and depressive carebear who - lost his hauler in hi-sec - lost his Freighter in hi-sec - lost his ship to a gate-camp in low-sec - wasn't allowed to make ISK easily in null-sec and finally was not able to learn, adapt and counter. You won't recognize EVEn a smile on my face.
Sol Project I'm So Meta Even This Acronym 794	Posted - 2014.12.22 12:07:37 - [21] - Quote Yourmoney Mywallet wrote: Sabriz Adoudel wrote: This is hilarious. Some people are easily entertained. Really, really easily entertained. Let us raise the question what this says about the person who finds it hilarious ... ... how about that? "Babies scream all the time, for no good reason" post "This is hilarious. Watch it" post https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9yugcNW_xI ("Fuck EVE!") -- Sabriz Adoud
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan 7157	Posted - 2014.12.22 12:09:10 - [22] - Quote Quote: People "but it's PvP in a PvP game trollolol" games are supposed to be entertainment It's not like I.... (insert pet hate here) but... "can I have your stuff" alienating enjoy EVE the rest of us BINGO! "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á_- _CCP Falcon
Gully Alex Foyle Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop 2841	Posted - 2014.12.22 12:24:57 - [23] - Quote Sabriz Adoudel wrote: This is hilarious. I waited patiently for the hilarious part to come. Oops, it never did! Please amend post title to 'Someone parodied "This is EVE", but I'm probably the only one that enjoyed it'. Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
Schmata Bastanold In Boobiez We Trust 2974	Posted - 2014.12.22 12:25:53 - [24] - Quote So... when epic parody part starts? Invalid signature format
Gleb Koskov Hedion University Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2014.12.22 12:28:19 - [25] - Quote Very funny video, everything said there was so true!
Pak Narhoo Splinter Foundation 1556	Posted - 2014.12.22 12:41:05 - [26] - Quote Gleb Koskov wrote: Very funny video, everything said there was so true! Now ^that's parody.
Seraph Essael eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred 1030	Posted - 2014.12.22 12:47:08 - [27] - Quote The comms used in this was from a streamer who was drunk, persuaded by people in his channel to stream himself fitting his blingy Apoc and fly to Jita where they had a stream sniping gank camp set up for him. I can't find the original video, which is frustrating, but I'll keep looking... Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
Sol Project I'm So Meta Even This Acronym 797	Posted - 2014.12.22 12:47:14 - [28] - Quote This thread gives perfect ground for CODE haters to spread the message about how much of a horrible personality Sabriz actually has. Sabriz - Hates EVE and babies .... that has a nice ring to it. "Babies scream all the time, for no good reason" post "This is hilarious. Watch it" post https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9yugcNW_xI ("Fuck EVE!") -- Sabriz Adoud
TheButcherPete Radio New Vegas 537	Posted - 2014.12.22 12:54:01 - [29] - Quote lol is it me or does the speaker sound like Progodlegend? [b]THE KING OF EVE RADIO If EVE is real, does that mean all of us are RMTrs?[/b]
War Kitten Panda McLegion 5658	Posted - 2014.12.22 12:59:34 - [30] - Quote Meh. <3 Miniluv and their wonderful good deeds, but this fake rant was crap. One point repeated over and over is dull and unimaginative, and forgetting to stop the music before Three Days Grace kicked in was fail. I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
Hiasa Kite Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 93	Posted - 2014.12.22 13:01:14 - [31] - Quote Gaylord Gallente wrote: To me the "parody" looks more like an adaption of a frustrated and depressive carebear who - lost his hauler in hi-sec - lost his Freighter in hi-sec - lost his ship to a gate-camp in low-sec - wasn't allowed to make ISK easily in null-sec and finally was not able to learn, adapt and counter. You won't recognize EVEn a smile on my face. It was a 6 week old character with a faction battleship. Source of the rant. People to vote for CSM X(in order): Sabriz Adoudel, Steve Ronuken, Manfred Sideous, Mike Azariah, Gorski Car
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan 7158	Posted - 2014.12.22 13:03:48 - [32] - Quote Hiasa Kite wrote: It was a 6 week old character with a faction fit battleship. lol "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á_- _CCP Falcon
Bagrat Skalski Poseidaon 7484	Posted - 2014.12.22 13:12:48 - [33] - Quote What a ******** oppinion about the game. I am a living proof, that he is wrong. Don't look any further for negative energy, you will find it by being lazy.
Jenn aSide Smokin Aces. 9194	Posted - 2014.12.22 13:17:29 - [34] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: To be fair, it's pretty accurate. People are generally so intent on killing people and going "but it's PvP in a PvP game trollolol" that they ignore the fact that games are supposed to be entertainment. It's not like I'd opt for a PvPless game, but look at the reaction when a newbie has a hard time, people immediately respond with "can I have your stuff" or "bye then!" and alienating them rather than trying to encourage them to enjoy EVE for the same reasons the rest of us do. To some of us, an extreme challenge against the odds is the entertainment, not everyone joining hands and singing kumbaya. This video is a perfect example of the wrong attitude some people have. A good new EVE prospect takes it on the chin (like most of us did), says "oh, I must be doing something wrong, let me learn how to do it right, then I'll show your ass what's what!". A bad eve prospect does exactly what the guy on twitch did (as alluded to in the comments of this video): they get a faction and deadpsace fit batleship and try to use it despite being 6 weeks old, lose it and blame the game for their stupidity. Bad gamers who should not be playing EVE say "F you, you hurt me feelings". Good Gamers that fit in to EVE just say "F You"...period and keep on truckin. What the guy in the video is derogatorily describing as what's wrong with EVE is actually what's right with EVE and what's wrong with most other (hand holding BS) MMOs. What folks who think like you do for new players (with good but naive intentions) isn't "helping them" come into and enjoy the game, it's enabling them to come into the game and fail when someone (like goons or CODE or random ganker/scammer guy) demonstrate to them what EVE really is.
Jenn aSide Smokin Aces. 9195	Posted - 2014.12.22 13:26:21 - [35] - Quote Bagrat Skalski wrote: What a ******** oppinion about the game. I am a living proof, that he is wrong. No, we ALL are living proof that he's wrong, including the guy who made the video. It's the paradox of the veteran player who whines about how unfriendly to new people the game is. THEY were new players and at some point (probably when the game was way harsher) THEY came in and the game was harsh and yet THEY survived. But somehow, 'something' has to be done to draw in 'new players' because the community is full of d-bags wanting to chase them off. Those d-bags are content. If a person CAN be chased out of a video game they pay for because another player of that video game was mean to them (within the rules of the EULA), they honestly didn't belong in that video game to begin with. In a (admittedly imperfect) way it reminds me of "Truly False Uniqueness" ie they under-estimate other people so they think the game is too harsh for new people but wasn't too harsh for them personally because they themselves are awesome. At the end of the day, these "think of the ~~children~~ new players" types are just super-egalitarian types types with a warped and kind of juvenile sense of 'fairness' that simply have made the wrong choice in game to play.
Jenn aSide Smokin Aces. 9195	Posted - 2014.12.22 13:28:47 - [36] - Quote Hiasa Kite wrote: Gaylord Gallente wrote: To me the "parody" looks more like an adaption of a frustrated and depressive carebear who - lost his hauler in hi-sec - lost his Freighter in hi-sec - lost his ship to a gate-camp in low-sec - wasn't allowed to make ISK easily in null-sec and finally was not able to learn, adapt and counter. You won't recognize EVEn a smile on my face. It was a 6 week old character with a faction battleship. Source of the rant. ROFL "How am i getting shot in high sec?!?!?" A perfect example of how High Sec fools dumb people into believing that it's "perfect-sec". This is why high sec is bad. Not that it would have helped, but I notice how this guy froze and didn't even try to tank, and didn't fit for travel at all.
Sibyyl Gallente Federation 21735	Posted - 2014.12.22 13:31:36 - [37] - Quote Sabriz, it might help to link the original video the audio is from. Seraph a few posts above me has linked it, but I've added the time index where the fellow gets ganked. He manages to exclaim: how am I getting shot in hisec? Though I agree with most people in this thread. Just splicing the audio into CCP's wonderful trailer shows a general lack of humor and creativity. Friendship is the best ship. Sabriz for CSM go go go
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan 7159	Posted - 2014.12.22 13:33:37 - [38] - Quote If This Is EvE - Hewey Lewis and the EvE News 24 I've been comm-ing Night and morning I heard you say "Tell him I'm not docked" Now you're confessing But I'm still guessing I've been your FC For so, so long Girl don't lie Just to save my feelings Girl don't cry And tell me nothing's wrong Girl don't try To make up phony reasons I'd rather leave Than never engage If this is EvE Please let me know If this ain't EvE You'd better let me go If this is EvE I want to know If this ain't EvE, baby Just say so You've been thinking And I've been drinking We both know that it's Just not right Now you're pretending That it's not ending You'll logoff anywhere To avoid a fight Girl don't lie Just to save my feelings Girl don't cry And tell me nothing's wrong Girl don't try To make up phony reasons I'd rather leave Than never engage If this is EvE Please let me know If this ain't EvE You'd better let me go If this is EvE I want to know If this ain't EvE, baby Just say so If this is it Please let me know If this ain't love You'd better let me go "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á_- _CCP Falcon
Sol Project I'm So Meta Even This Acronym 798	Posted - 2014.12.22 13:38:43 - [39] - Quote Sibyyl wrote: Sabriz, it might help to link the original video the audio is from. Seraph a few posts above me has linked it, but I've added the time index where the fellow gets ganked. He manages to exclaim: how am I getting shot in hisec? Though I agree with most people in this thread. Just splicing the audio into CCP's wonderful trailer shows a general lack of humor and creativity. You forgot "decency". Or "empathy". Or "shows that you're too stupid not to honestly project your sick attitude out onto others". Well, at least two times so far we've seen unintended honesty from the EVE hating, baby hating CODE CSM candidate. "Babies scream all the time, for no good reason" post "This is hilarious. Watch it" post https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9yugcNW_xI ("Fuck EVE!") -- Sabriz Adoud
BrundleMeth Caldari Provisions Caldari State 311	Posted - 2014.12.22 14:12:06 - [40] - Quote If this guy was for real...in EVE people shoot you. It's the reason we arm our ships.... If this guy was for real...I hope a bus runs over him...soon...before he reproduces...
Sol Project I'm So Meta Even This Acronym 798	Posted - 2014.12.22 14:16:29 - [41] - Quote BrundleMeth wrote: If this guy was for real...in EVE people shoot you. It's the reason we arm our ships.... If this guy was for real...I hope a bus runs over him...soon...before he reproduces... You want to run for CSM for CODE too, hu? You're sick. "Babies scream all the time, for no good reason" post "This is hilarious. Watch it" post https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9yugcNW_xI ("Fuck EVE!") -- Sabriz Adoud
Neckbeardian Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2014.12.22 14:17:10 - [42] - Quote That was hilariously BORING ... /thread.
Indahmawar Fazmarai 3476	Posted - 2014.12.22 14:17:43 - [43] - Quote 1/10, we are not amused. Now, this is what a hilarious parody looks like... ...just in case you're interested. The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! Ingame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar
ISD Ezwal ISD Community Communications Liaisons 3070	Posted - 2014.12.22 14:18:06 - [44] - Quote This thread has been moved to My EVE. ISD Ezwal Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Sibyyl Gallente Federation 21753	Posted - 2014.12.22 14:19:40 - [45] - Quote Sol Project wrote: You forgot "decency". Or "empathy". Or "shows that you're too stupid not to honestly project your sick attitude out onto others". Well, at least two times so far we've seen unintended honesty from the EVE hating, baby hating CODE CSM candidate. I have about as much sympathy for a ganker sobbing about hatemail they receive, as much I do for a miner crying about being shot at in hisec. Both of these groups have created the hostile environment which rears up every time one of these discussions come up. All this has nothing to do with game mechanics and the overall technical direction Id like to see the game go. Sabriz articulates these rather well, in my opinion, and I'd much rather support that than the opposing position which could truly have a detrimental effect on the game. Friendship is the best ship. Sabriz for CSM go go go
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 4793	Posted - 2014.12.22 14:23:52 - [46] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: To some of us, an extreme challenge against the odds is the entertainment, not everyone joining hands and singing kumbaya. Absolutely, and that's fine, but it's a sandbox. If you want to just come in a do missions, you can. Alienating people from the entire game because thye don;t play your way is dumb. Jenn aSide wrote: This video is a perfect example of the wrong attitude some people have. A good new EVE prospect takes it on the chin (like most of us did), says "oh, I must be doing something wrong, let me learn how to do it right, then I'll show your ass what's what!". A bad eve prospect does exactly what the guy on twitch did (as alluded to in the comments of this video): they get a faction and deadpsace fit batleship and try to use it despite being 6 weeks old, lose it and blame the game for their stupidity. I'm sure many people have reacted this way and been spoken to properly by someone who's not an antisocial neckbeard and gone on to continue playing and enjoy the game. The problem is when someone reacts like this they are generally met by trolls telling them to leave and asking for their stuff. Jenn aSide wrote: What folks who think like you do for new players (with good but naive intentions) isn't "helping them" come into and enjoy the game, it's enabling them to come into the game and fail when someone (like goons or CODE or random ganker/scammer guy) demonstrate to them what EVE really is. I'm not saying they should be shielded from all harm, but a fresh noob to this game will not have played a game like it, so compounding their already shocked reaction by acting like a prick really isn't the right way to go, yet it's the way most of this playerbase chooses to go. To be entirely truthful though, Elite:Dangerous has got it right. If people want to just come in play a bit of spaceships and not fight people, they can play solo mode, while the rest of us can play open. If and when they decide to join in with the rest of us, they can. Because let's face it, why does it affect you if someone else wants to just be left alone? If they play alone or don't play at all, it makes no difference to me, but it's extra income for the developers from players who are off doing their own thing on their own. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
Eli Apol Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 51	Posted - 2014.12.22 14:33:29 - [47] - Quote Didn't think the 'parody' video was particularly funny but quite enjoyed watching the original youtube...then checked out the guys killboard and corp history and just wow...you can trace his whole eve life from start to finish... 16/3/2014: Welcome to Eve. 19/3/2014: Joins his first corp. 22/3/2014: Corp gets wardecced, back to an NPC corp. ??? NOTHING HAPPENS FOR 4 MONTHS ??? 27/7/2014: Joins another corp 9/8/2014: Fitted a ship for lowsec, bought some semi-shiny implants ("You won't lose those in lowsec") - walked into a healthy sized fleet, probably didn't know how to align out and spam warp as soon as he was popped, lost his pod. -145m isk 5/9/2014: Someone pops his MTU, probably looking for a suspect engagement - 5m 7/9/2014: Corp gets wardecced, he leaves for an NPC corp. 8/9/2014: Makes his own corp. 21/9/2014: The gank preceeding the audio sample, loses a N.Apoc to stream snipers setting up a gank for him in Jita - 1b 8/12/2014: Someone joins his corp and AWOXes his next N.Apoc - 1.4b https://zkillboard.com/character/94482504/ I mean personally, I don't really care for the guy but I only saw a drunken youtube clip of him losing a ship, probably not being his most erudite...but the history kinda shows how ****** a game Eve can be for a newcomer that doesn't know better (although really you should know much better after 9 months)
Jenn aSide Smokin Aces. 9195	Posted - 2014.12.22 14:37:24 - [48] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: ]Absolutely, and that's fine, but it's a sandbox. If you want to just come in a do missions, you can. Alienating people from the entire game because thye don;t play your way is dumb. No it is not, it IS the game. EVE is a game about people. I am able to PVE freely because I ENFORCE my in-game 'right' to that freedom (by knowing the game, and knowing how gankers and such think). EVE isn't a themepark MMO where you get walled off from other people. Freedom means that people who like to screw with people will screw with people and you can't be a good EVE PVPr without acknowledging (and then defeating) that fact. Quote: 'm sure many people have reacted this way and been spoken to properly by someone who's not an antisocial neckbeard and gone on to continue playing and enjoy the game. The problem is when someone reacts like this they are generally met by trolls telling them to leave and asking for their stuff. They get 'trolled' because this isn't kindergarten. This is a game of adults. it's like doing badly at a drinking game in a Biker bar, no one cares about your wee little feeling, man up and drink more. Quote: [I'm not saying they should be shielded from all harm, but a fresh noob to this game will not have played a game like it, so compounding their already shocked reaction by acting like a prick really isn't the right way to go, yet it's the way most of this playerbase chooses to go. That's because, again, this is a game with adults, a game of freedom. Freedom is messy. Acting like a man in a game full of men isn't acting like a prick, it's acting you you actually have a healthy level of testosterone in your system. Why would you walk into a situation like EVE (real life correlations: a biker bar, a strip club, prison) if you are so tender hearted that your feelings get hurt so easily? Quote: To be entirely truthful though, Elite:Dangerous has got it right. If people want to just come in play a bit of spaceships and not fight people, they can play solo mode, while the rest of us can play open. If and when they decide to join in with the rest of us, they can. Because let's face it, why does it affect you if someone else wants to just be left alone? If they play alone or don't play at all, it makes no difference to me, but it's extra income for the developers from players who are off doing their own thing on their own. Obvious Question, why aren't you playing E:D full time if it got it right and EVE didn't? It's not a matter of something affecting other people. I don't care what anyone does or doesn't do. I'm saying that it's stupid to come into a game like EVE and expect sunshine and unicorns. If people want to pay 15 bux a month or grind a plex to play a game with a community that hurts it's feelings, well, to each his own. Some people like to get tied up and whipped and call that 'foreplay' lol. It just boggles my mind that yo think what you think of the EVE community (and EVE itself) and you're still here. Elite has been published, why don't we let Elite be elite and let EVE be EVE? Or must everything conform to your particular worldview?
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan 7161	Posted - 2014.12.22 14:38:00 - [49] - Quote And again another thread devolves into a fight about how EvE isnt really a merciless sink or swim game, even though it is. "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á_- _CCP Falcon
Sol Project I'm So Meta Even This Acronym 798	Posted - 2014.12.22 14:38:11 - [50] - Quote Sibyyl wrote: Sol Project wrote: You forgot "decency". Or "empathy". Or "shows that you're too stupid not to honestly project your sick attitude out onto others". Well, at least two times so far we've seen unintended honesty from the EVE hating, baby hating CODE CSM candidate. I have about as much sympathy for a ganker sobbing about hatemail they receive, as much I do for a miner crying about being shot at in hisec. Both of these groups have created the hostile environment which rears up every time one of these discussions come up. All this has nothing to do with game mechanics and the overall technical direction Id like to see the game go. Sabriz articulates these rather well, in my opinion, and I'd much rather support that than the opposing position which could truly have a detrimental effect on the game. Sibyyl. You of all people I know are the one easiest to trick with good words and niceness. Always believing in good parts of a person only makes you a target. And you completely missed the point. Nothing you said has anything to do with this here. You should rather listen when he speaks his mind freely and doesn't pay attention to not say something wrong... "Babies scream all the time, for no good reason" post "This is hilarious. Watch it" post https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9yugcNW_xI ("Fuck EVE!") -- Sabriz Adoud
Jenn aSide Smokin Aces. 9195	Posted - 2014.12.22 14:42:48 - [51] - Quote Eli Apol wrote: I mean personally, I don't really care for the guy but I only saw a drunken youtube clip of him losing a ship, probably not being his most erudite...but the history kinda shows how **** a game Eve can be for a newcomer that doesn't know better (although really you should know much better after 9 months) EVE is only a ** game for the lazy and unimaginative and entitled. It's great for people who don't prejudge situations, who are self reliant by nature, who have a deep sense of personal responsibility (ie "my in game enjoyment is my responsibility, no one elses"), and who have a thick enough skin (aka mental toughness and maturity) to survive in an environment where everyone is free to act as they please withing the loose bounds of a Sandbox game's EULA. Gamers tend to ask "is this a good game" and usually that's a good question, but in EVE, the question should be "am i the right sort to fit into the community and enjoy the game". If people don't ask the right question before subbing, it's their fault when things go bad.
Jenn aSide Smokin Aces. 9195	Posted - 2014.12.22 14:45:49 - [52] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: And again another thread devolves into a fight about how EvE isnt really a merciless sink or swim game, even though it is. Oh, people know it is, they just don't want it to be. There are people in life who are never happy with the way a thing is no matter the actual merits of the thing. I call them the "Change for Change's sake" crowd. What's funny is that such people tend to be "X game is gonna kill EVE" types, yet when said EVE-killer game launches, the same people remain in EVE when they could be playing a game they actually like. TL;DR, some people are a bit tapped on the old noggin.
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan 7162	Posted - 2014.12.22 14:58:46 - [53] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: Ramona McCandless wrote: And again another thread devolves into a fight about how EvE isnt really a merciless sink or swim game, even though it is. Oh, people know it is, they just don't want it to be. The question would be, Why is this? Why do they hate those who seek conflict so much? Why do they come to a game where survival is profit in of itself and demand that everyone has a work-a-day job and a pension? Its my boggle. "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á_- _CCP Falcon
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 4793	Posted - 2014.12.22 15:03:32 - [54] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: No it is not, it IS the game. EVE is a game about people. I am able to PVE freely because I ENFORCE my in-game 'right' to that freedom (by knowing the game, and knowing how gankers and such think). EVE isn't a themepark MMO where you get walled off from other people. Freedom means that people who like to screw with people will screw with people and you can't be a good EVE PVPr without acknowledging (and then defeating) that fact. And if you want to play your own way and cry when you get blown up, you have every right to do that too. So many people want to push anyone that doesn't like getting blown up out of the game though, and use that laughable idea that somehow EVE players are elite. EVE players aren't elite. They simply whine about different things, like how unfair it is that NPC corp players don't have to be forced into PVP if they play well, or how when you wardec someone you can't prevent them from playing for a full 7 days. Jenn aSide wrote: They get 'trolled' because this isn't kindergarten. This is a game of adults. it's like doing badly at a drinking game in a Biker bar, no one cares about your wee little feeling, man up and drink more. HAHAHAHAHA ** off. A game of adults? You are actually joking right? The average age of the players might be higher, but the attitude of many players is considerably more childish. Just look at the forums, the ISDs require medals for the level of moderation they have to go through. This whole "we're so 'ard cos EVE is do dark and unforgiving" is laughable. EVE is just as forgiving, just in a different way. EVE players aren't somehow better than any other gamers, just more arrogant. Jenn aSide wrote: That's because, again, this is a game with adults, a game of freedom. Freedom is messy. Acting like a man in a game full of men isn't acting like a prick, it's acting you you actually have a healthy level of testosterone in your system. Why would you walk into a situation like EVE (real life correlations: a biker bar, a strip club, prison) if you are so tender hearted that your feelings get hurt so easily? Perhaps because it's a game? Nobody is unable to play EVE, it's simply a different style of game. Take a FPS player, dump him in a top down strategy and whup his ass repeatedly, he's not gonna have fun. Compound that with laughing in his face and insulting him every time you dunk him with extreme ease, and he's just going to quit. Instead teach him how to more effectively play a strategy game and he'll be able to play to a semi-competent level and he'll be able to enjoy it. You'll even enjoy the actual challenge more. In the same way, if people got taught in EVE to treat ships more like consumables than assets and got shown how to evade, how to fight, how to not get scammed, and most of the players who get pushed out of the game would adapt very quickly. EVE Players don't want that though, they want to roflstomp all over the noobs so they can act superior. Jenn aSide wrote:** Obvious Question, why aren't you playing E:D full time if it got it right and EVE didn't? It's not a matter of something affecting other people. I don't care what anyone does or doesn't do. I'm saying that it's stupid to come into a game like EVE and expect sunshine and unicorns. If people want to pay 15 bux a month or grind a plex to play a game with a community that hurts it's feelings, well, to each his own. Some people like to get tied up and whipped and call that 'foreplay' lol. It just boggles my mind that yo think what you think of the EVE community (and EVE itself) and you're still here. Elite has been published, why don't we let Elite be elite and let EVE be EVE? Or must everything conform to your particular worldview? I'm playing both. I'm not saying I don't like EVE or EVE gets everything wrong. There's plenty of mechanics I think E:D could be improved with which EVE get right. But that goes both ways. EVE clearly has a problem with engaging new players and keeping their income inflated with casual players. E:D not so much. It's highly intuitive and allows people to temporarily opt out of interaction if they feel overwhelmed. And sure, much of the EVE community I think are complete plebs. I've been playing long enough to not actually care what other people think though, and I enjoy the game the way I like to play it. My issue is that I'd also like other people to enjoy EVE, but those aforementioned plebs tend to alienate everyone they possibly can. Honestly, if I were CCP I'd have banned half the forum posters by now, and to be completely truthful, myself included. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan 7165	Posted - 2014.12.22 15:19:49 - [55] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: HAHAHAHAHA **** off. A game of adults? You are actually joking right? The average age of the players might be higher, but the attitude of many players is considerably more childish. And sure, much of the EVE community I think are complete plebs. I've been playing long enough to not actually care what other people think though, and I enjoy the game the way I like to play it. My issue is that I'd also like other people to enjoy EVE, but those aforementioned plebs tend to alienate everyone they possibly can. Honestly, if I were CCP I'd have banned half the forum posters by now, and to be completely truthful, myself included. So, apart from proving his own point by purposfully displaying immature behaviour in order to win some sort of online measuring contest here in a forum, Kell pretty much proves that its not the game he has a problem with, but the players. He has a dislike for most of the community ("much of the EVE community I think are complete plebs") and would like the game to be modified not because he thinks the mechanics are inherently wrong, but because he doesn't like other's play styles. A prime example of "This game would be better if you weren't allowed to play it" directed from him to the rest of us. "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á_- _CCP Falcon
Jenn aSide Smokin Aces. 9198	Posted - 2014.12.22 15:19:56 - [56] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: My issue is that I'd also like other people to enjoy EVE, but those aforementioned plebs tend to alienate everyone they possibly can. Honestly, if I were CCP I'd have banned half the forum posters by now, and to be completely truthful, myself included. This is the part that doesn't make sense (well, out of all the toher stuff that doesn't make sense lol). People DO enjoy EVE. The right people ie the people mentally suited to enjoy the kind of game EVE is. I'm not even a 'hunter' (I play as the willy Rabbit that munchs on lettuce but that the big dumb farmers dog can never catch) and I can't get enough of it. I've enjoyed the little of Elite I've played, but I'm just not in to 'starfighter' type games like I was as a kid (I played the hell out of wing commander on SNES, and Star Raiders was the 1st game i ever loved). But it's not EVE. At the end of the day, the disconnect here is my inability to understand why the part of your post I bolded is your concern. Your inability to accept what EVE is (and who it's aimed at) isn't EVE's fault. This is probably why i have a higher appreciation of the EVE community and EVE itself, I accept that in a free situation, people are going to do things I don't like and behave in ways that i wouldn't, and that's ok. The only thing I can and should do is control my OWN behavior and be aware or my surroundings.
Sibyyl Gallente Federation 21784	Posted - 2014.12.22 15:55:04 - [57] - Quote Sol Project wrote: Sibyyl. You of all people I know are the one easiest to trick with good words and niceness. Always believing in good parts of a person only makes you a target. Well I'll admit I have this problem. I'll shut up now.. Friendship is the best ship. Sabriz for CSM go go go
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 4793	Posted - 2014.12.22 15:57:20 - [58] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: He has a dislike for most of the community ("much of the EVE community I think are complete plebs") and would like the game to be modified not because he thinks the mechanics are inherently wrong, but because he doesn't like other's play styles. A prime example of "This game would be better if you weren't allowed to play it" directed from him to the rest of us. That's pretty much the crux of it. I like EVE, and would like others to like it, and since CCP can't patch player's attitudes, they have to steer them by patching mechanics and enforcing a stronger EULA. Jenn aSide wrote: People DO enjoy EVE. The right people ie the people mentally suited to enjoy the kind of game EVE is. Lol, it's a game. It's something that anyone can learn to play just like any game. It's different to other games in that ships are ammo, but beyond that it's exactly the same as any other game. It doesn't require a certain type of person on a special skill, it's just as game. Even the claims of it's unique single shard nature are exaggerated, since you're effectively instanced in population capped solar systems with shared market and chat. It's pretty much the same way WoWs battle groups are clustered. Jenn aSide wrote: I'm not even a 'hunter' (I play as the willy Rabbit that munchs on lettuce but that the big dumb farmers dog can never catch) and I can't get enough of it. I've enjoyed the little of Elite I've played, but I'm just not in to 'starfighter' type games like I was as a kid (I played the hell out of wing commander on SNES, and Star Raiders was the 1st game i ever loved). But it's not EVE. At the end of the day, the disconnect here is my inability to understand why the part of your post I bolded is your concern. Your inability to accept what EVE is (and who it's aimed at) isn't EVE's fault. This is probably why i have a higher appreciation of the EVE community and EVE itself, I accept that in a free situation, people are going to do things I don't like and behave in ways that i wouldn't, and that's ok. The only thing I can and should do is control my OWN behavior and be aware or my surroundings. It's pretty simple really. It's because the people getting pushed away from the game aren't just people who don't or won't like EVE. I'm sure many of the players pushed away from it would love it if they stuck with it and learned how it's played. But when you join a game which is already quite different to other games you play, then when you have a hard time you get surrounded by a bunch of idiots attacking and insulting you, it's not exactly the environment you want to stick around in to see if you like the game. Oh, and I accept what EVE is, I just have a hard time believing their target audience is over compensating asshats who like to troll. Maybe it is though, would explain why developers with talent are happy to jump ship. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
Indahmawar Fazmarai 3477	Posted - 2014.12.22 16:06:24 - [59] - Quote Eli Apol wrote: Didn't think the 'parody' video was particularly funny but quite enjoyed watching the original youtube...then checked out the guys killboard and corp history and just wow...you can trace his whole eve life from start to finish... 16/3/2014: Welcome to Eve. 19/3/2014: Joins his first corp. 22/3/2014: Corp gets wardecced, back to an NPC corp. ??? NOTHING HAPPENS FOR 4 MONTHS ??? 27/7/2014: Joins another corp 9/8/2014: Fitted a ship for lowsec, bought some semi-shiny implants ("You won't lose those in lowsec") - walked into a healthy sized fleet, probably didn't know how to align out and spam warp as soon as he was popped, lost his pod. -145m isk 5/9/2014: Someone pops his MTU, probably looking for a suspect engagement - 5m 7/9/2014: Corp gets wardecced, he leaves for an NPC corp. 8/9/2014: Makes his own corp. 21/9/2014: The gank preceeding the audio sample, loses a N.Apoc to stream snipers setting up a gank for him in Jita - 1b 8/12/2014: Someone joins his corp and AWOXes his next N.Apoc - 1.4b https://zkillboard.com/character/94482504/ I mean personally, I don't really care for the guy but I only saw a drunken youtube clip of him losing a ship, probably not being his most erudite...but the history kinda shows how ****** a game Eve can be for a newcomer that doesn't know better (although really you should know much better after 9 months) Some will say "he should had learned". Some will say "someone should had teached him". But the guy didn't did anything wrong. He managed to earn enough income and have enough fun as to stay subbed for nine months and buy not one but two expensive ships. He was doing something right... but in the wrong game. And at the end of the day, that's 14.95 Gé¼ /month less for CCP, and another horror story on why people should not try EVE Online. The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! Ingame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar
Mizhir Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 71487	Posted - 2014.12.22 16:14:30 - [60] - Quote I want my minute back. One Man Crew - Collective Solo PVP - Video is out!
Eli Apol Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 53	Posted - 2014.12.22 16:18:36 - [61] - Quote Eh he didn't necessarily earn enough it was probably plexes that bought those ships. And imo it was his fault for not learning or at least joining a group that could have taught him - that's his screw up - and a screw up made 100 times worse because they were screw ups whilst flying a ship he couldn't afford to lose (which was probably bought with plex)... What dismays me is that it's most likely due to players targeting beginners in general that led to all of those situations - wardecs on nooby corps, ganking a newbie on a stream, awoxing a newbie on a stream... And I mean that's his other mistake is to be streaming his actions (and reactions) in a game like Eve... I'm pretty glad I wasn't on voice comms or a stream when I've had some of the sandbox kicked in my eyes as a beginner :)
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan 7168	Posted - 2014.12.22 16:28:10 - [62] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: Oh, and I accept what EVE is, I just have a hard time believing their target audience is over compensating asshats who like to troll. You think that's me, I think that's you. Impasse. The constant state here. "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á_- _CCP Falcon
Antihrist Pripravnik T-AFK and counting 849	Posted - 2014.12.22 16:31:26 - [63] - Quote Rrrright.... So, this is a regular "General Discussion" rant in form of a video that I couldn't accept as a parody or satire just because the author says so. For the reference, this is how you do a parody video for Eve trailers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_Q6M6pO_2s *Anti's PvE Video Guides - constantly updated*
Indahmawar Fazmarai 3481	Posted - 2014.12.22 16:31:26 - [64] - Quote Eli Apol wrote: Eh he didn't necessarily earn enough it was probably plexes that bought those ships. And imo it was his fault for not learning or at least joining a group that could have taught him - that's his screw up - and a screw up made 100 times worse because they were screw ups whilst flying a ship he couldn't afford to lose (which was probably bought with plex)... What dismays me is that it's most likely due to players targeting beginners in general that led to all of those situations - wardecs on nooby corps, ganking a newbie on a stream, awoxing a newbie on a stream... And I mean that's his other mistake is to be streaming his actions (and reactions) in a game like Eve... I'm pretty glad I wasn't on voice comms or a stream when I've had some of the sandbox kicked in my eyes as a beginner :) Yay, he was stupid to play the sandbox his way and not CCP/PvPrs/AWOXers way. Now he's been cured of his misconceptions and maybe he's having a blast with E:D. (BTW: In my EVE tenure, I've lost 2 Navy Apocs to NPCs. And no, a recording of my reaction in boyh cases would not have been nice to watch... ) The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! Ingame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar
Jenn aSide Smokin Aces. 9201	Posted - 2014.12.22 16:42:27 - [65] - Quote Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: Eli Apol wrote: Eh he didn't necessarily earn enough it was probably plexes that bought those ships. And imo it was his fault for not learning or at least joining a group that could have taught him - that's his screw up - and a screw up made 100 times worse because they were screw ups whilst flying a ship he couldn't afford to lose (which was probably bought with plex)... What dismays me is that it's most likely due to players targeting beginners in general that led to all of those situations - wardecs on nooby corps, ganking a newbie on a stream, awoxing a newbie on a stream... And I mean that's his other mistake is to be streaming his actions (and reactions) in a game like Eve... I'm pretty glad I wasn't on voice comms or a stream when I've had some of the sandbox kicked in my eyes as a beginner :) Yay, he was stupid to play the sandbox his way and not CCP/PvPrs/AWOXers way. Now he's been cured of his misconceptions and maybe he's having a blast with E:D. (BTW: In my EVE tenure, I've lost 2 Navy Apocs to NPCs. And no, a recording of my reaction in boyh cases would not have been nice to watch... ) No, he was stupid to play in an inefficient, ignorant and ineffective way. Just because you want to do something doesn't make that thing valid. Reality (of the situation) determines validity. This is the problem with lots of forum posters, they don't adapt themselves to reality, they expect reality to conform to their wishes. It doesn't work that way in life or in game.
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 4798	Posted - 2014.12.22 16:43:22 - [66] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: Lucas Kell wrote: Oh, and I accept what EVE is, I just have a hard time believing their target audience is over compensating asshats who like to troll. You think that's me, I think that's you. Impasse. The constant state here. We're both EVE players, so we're probably both right. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
Jenn aSide Smokin Aces. 9201	Posted - 2014.12.22 16:53:54 - [67] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: It's pretty simple really. It's because the people getting pushed away from the game aren't just people who don't or won't like EVE. I'm sure many of the players pushed away from it would love it if they stuck with it and learned how it's played. But when you join a game which is already quite different to other games you play, then when you have a hard time you get surrounded by a bunch of idiots attacking and insulting you, it's not exactly the environment you want to stick around in to see if you like the game. And yet here you are. What you are describing is what's good about EVE. it's different from other games and full of hartd core internet mofos. The successful EVe candidate will see those mofos as CONTENT to surive and thrive against. The successful EVe candidate will see how different the game is form others and go "I like a challenge, game on". Surviving You basically support weakness. Most game makers cater to weakness by mitigating the amount of 'bad' that can happen to it's players. CCP says "HTFU and go get em, ADULT player". This is why I oppose damn near everything you say, because the EVE you'd like to see would be some mushy crap that I would not like to play filled with people I left WoW/"LotRO to get away from. Quote: Oh, and I accept what EVE is, I just have a hard time believing their target audience is over compensating asshats who like to troll. Maybe it is though, would explain why developers with talent are happy to jump ship. I like the EVE Community. The game is really just a back drop for community interaction. If you don't like the community in a community based game, doesn't that say something about how you go about making personal decisions about your free time. You being here is like being a member of PETA who likes to hang out at this place in his free time.
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 4801	Posted - 2014.12.22 17:33:45 - [68] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: And yet here you are. What you are describing is what's good about EVE. it's different from other games and full of hartd core internet mofos. The successful EVe candidate will see those mofos as CONTENT to surive and thrive against. The successful EVe candidate will see how different the game is form others and go "I like a challenge, game on". Surviving You basically support weakness. Most game makers cater to weakness by mitigating the amount of 'bad' that can happen to it's players. CCP says "HTFU and go get em, ADULT player". This is why I oppose damn near everything you say, because the EVE you'd like to see would be some mushy crap that I would not like to play filled with people I left WoW/"LotRO to get away from. Lol, straight back to the "look how hardcore EVE players are because I play EVE and consider myself hardcore!". Eve players aren't hardcore, they are just people playing a game. Arguably there's less consequences in EVE than many other games, because at most you can lose some ISK, which most of us vets have more than enough to not care about anymore. I get so tired of listening to EVE players going on about how much better they are than every other type of gamer. And no, I don't want "mushy crap", I'd just be happy to see CCP putting a bit of attention into drawing in and keeping a wider and larger group of players. And if the trolls want to keep trying to alienate everyone they can, then I'd have no issue with CCP reigning them in. Jenn aSide wrote: I like the EVE Community. The game is really just a back drop for community interaction. If you don't like the community in a community based game, doesn't that say something about how you go about making personal decisions about your free time. You being here is like being a member of PETA who likes to hang out at this place in his free time. The game is a sandbox for whatever you want. You don't have to be part of the community and many players choose not to be. And mate, I've been here a long time. The community wasn't always filled with players who want nothing more to see other people's gametime ruined. People have always run around blowing each other up sure, but then following it up with endless insults and trolling and telling people to quit, that's not what EVE was about. The thing is, like many others what you are doing here is refusing to accept that there's any middle ground. Because I don't like the level of troll that currently exists, you automatically classify me as "carebear hugging, wow playing crybaby" and lay out your arguments as such. That's simply not the reality. I like EVE, and I like the principles EVE stands by, but I certainly think there's room to improve it and bring in a wider and a stronger playerbase without breaking those principles. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
McChicken Combo HalfMayo The Happy Meal 156	Posted - 2014.12.23 07:17:01 - [69] - Quote Lol, hilarious. I really enjoyed this. Thank you. Also, the video is pretty funny too. ~ Bookmarks in overview ~ Fleet improvements
Neth Ezbet WiNGSPAN Delivery Services 0	Posted - 2014.12.29 23:18:10 - [70] - Quote I'm a newbie player, essentially. I have maybe 11m in training and I have been gone for over a year. I think the biggest mistake that care bears make is that, in an online pvp game, they are in control of their environment. His comment about people running another's "game experience" screams a lack of understanding that even I, in my newbieness, understand. I flew freighters in high sec for awhile and learned that no one is safe. Anywhere. If you play in this sandbox, you accept that occasionally you are going to get sand (that is saturated in p&s) thrown in your eyes. You don't have to be a ganker, you don't have to choose to kill people at all. You simply have to accept that this is not your world, it belongs to the thousands of people who play in it. This may seem obvious, but I think that after 10 years, people should get it by now. I may suck at the game, but my enjoyment comes at the risk involved. Who the heck really wants to play a game with no risk? What fun is it when you automatically win? I can't imagine how terribly dead some people are in real life with that level of fear. I love my Corp, even knowing that many veterans roll their eyes, some people see is as a threat, and others see us as free kills. But at least I am willing to go out there and play the game, rather than get upset that someone might blow up my internet spaceship. Enjoy Eve however you like, just remember that someone else is your system is doing the same thing when they scan you down or suicide gank your expensive ship.
Phaedron Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 46	Posted - 2014.12.31 00:51:43 - [71] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: Eli Apol wrote: Eh he didn't necessarily earn enough it was probably plexes that bought those ships. And imo it was his fault for not learning or at least joining a group that could have taught him - that's his screw up - and a screw up made 100 times worse because they were screw ups whilst flying a ship he couldn't afford to lose (which was probably bought with plex)... What dismays me is that it's most likely due to players targeting beginners in general that led to all of those situations - wardecs on nooby corps, ganking a newbie on a stream, awoxing a newbie on a stream... And I mean that's his other mistake is to be streaming his actions (and reactions) in a game like Eve... I'm pretty glad I wasn't on voice comms or a stream when I've had some of the sandbox kicked in my eyes as a beginner :) Yay, he was stupid to play the sandbox his way and not CCP/PvPrs/AWOXers way. Now he's been cured of his misconceptions and maybe he's having a blast with E:D. (BTW: In my EVE tenure, I've lost 2 Navy Apocs to NPCs. And no, a recording of my reaction in boyh cases would not have been nice to watch... ) No, he was stupid to play in an inefficient, ignorant and ineffective way. Just because you want to do something doesn't make that thing valid. Reality (of the situation) determines validity. This is the problem with lots of forum posters, they don't adapt themselves to reality, they expect reality to conform to their wishes. It doesn't work that way in life or in game. reality also dictates "Just because you want to do something doesn't make that thing valid" goes both ways regardless of how you play or what you choose to do. you aren't excluded any more than anyone else is included [about your conclusion].... ..... & EvE doesn't conform, if that is the case how come you are doing just that in forum? you believe the game is X and you continue to support that Y is X, when it is likely Z. and you expect others to conform to your "reality" when sadly life doesn't work like that.....classic strawman, not to mention a tad bit hypocritical. "It doesn't work that way in life or in game" yeah it doesn't for you either sweetheart! and if this is valid or accurate if it doesn't for anyone then i wonder who EvE does cater to. if no one then why does anyone play? 1. because they can, so they choose to do so. 2. because gameplay mechanics allow them to do so, and 3. because CCP allow people to do so. fact: people don't have to adapt, fact: reality does conform to my wishes. my wishes are based on consensus reality not some willy nilly philosophy. therefore you are wrong. if i am wrong care to enlighten me why consensus reality is wrong and you are right, because you say so and continue to believe your own self created delusions. also how is it your business what other players choose to do, who the **** are you to say they have to adapt or you think they should adjust their perception/s based on wh? yeah no one said you have to. look at those that don't and soon leave to play XYZ: online again. that is the beauty of a Sandbox. you can play however you want, and others have that same right. no other player has the right to say they have to conform to your way. doesn't happen in game and it definitely doesn't happen in real life.....see what i did there [i used reality to discredit you] also i play EvE because 1. i can, 2. because i can, and lastly 3. because i can. i don't care for people like you whom say your way is valid, my way is not valid. EvE is a sandbox MMORPG. that means that you can do whatever and it is VALID gameplay.
Magnasis Drakkenwolf 12	Posted - 2015.01.18 16:42:03 - [72] - Quote Quick! Someone get the tear bucket..... There can be only one.. http://www.youtube.com/user/KensCrazyGaming
Hoo Ji-Kyu Swamphole Inc. Swamphole 0	Posted - 2015.01.22 15:15:59 - [73] - Quote "How do you recruit new people if you shoot them". We weed out the weak from the strong. If you can not handle being killed in EVE, you should go play Farmville. It's literally that simple. People who can't handle dying in a video game, are going to have a bad time in EVE.
Immortal Chrono Pimpin Big Rifters Inc. Space Warriors 120	Posted - 2015.01.25 12:19:09 - [74] - Quote This actually made me laugh, tbh its hard finding people who don't want to screw you over at sometime or another. I mean to be successful in EvE you have to be a sociopath, Call BS on that all you want but its true.

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