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chingon
Caldari
The Ghost Riders
Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.10 12:47:00 -
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Im looking for the best use of slots to create a good vagabond imp set,i got this in my mind:
-full lg snake set (offcourse)
-'rogue' MY-2 +5% ab/mwd speed (slot 10)
-'rogue' CY-2 +5% ship velocity or 8% shaqil's if it's same slot? (slot 7)
-'gunslinger' MX-2 +5% damage (slot 8)
-'rogue' GY-2 -5% cap usage mwd (slot 9)
So any comments or advice is welcome to use the full potential of the hardwiring slot layout!
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Luceferous
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Posted - 2006.09.10 12:50:00 -
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Might have a few too many Speed hardwires in there, the snake set will give you enough of a boost to speed, possibly allowing you to double up on some damage mods :
The 5% to Medium Projectile Damage and the 5% to all gun damage?
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chingon
Caldari
The Ghost Riders
Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.10 12:53:00 -
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Well maybe a few too much speed imps Make comments,i made this thread too look for a good set,it's the 5% damage to med projectile i got in that set above i think...
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chingon
Caldari
The Ghost Riders
Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.10 12:54:00 -
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Edited by: chingon on 10/09/2006 12:54:45
Well maybe a few too much speed imps Make comments,i made this thread too look for a good set,it's the 5% damage to med projectile i got in that set above i think...
Edit: yeah that double damage imps set would be nice if that's possible with slot layout?
Edit again: dammn lag,made it double post
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Sqalevon
Masuat'aa Matari
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Posted - 2006.09.10 14:20:00 -
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You might want to look into the Skirmish Warfare implant, It is a ***** to train for but the +15% speed is pretty sexy.
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chingon
Caldari
The Ghost Riders
Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.10 14:25:00 -
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 Originally by: Sqalevon
You might want to look into the Skirmish Warfare implant, It is a ***** to train for but the +15% speed is pretty sexy.
Yeh one of my corpm8's has got that
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siliconix
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.10 14:34:00 -
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In slot 6 a Rogue AY-2 for agility |
chingon
Caldari
The Ghost Riders
Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.10 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: siliconix
In slot 6 a Rogue AY-2 for agility
BEEEP! That place is reserved for the lg snake omega
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stingy CEO
High roller corp
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Posted - 2006.09.12 13:48:00 -
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Edited by: stingy CEO on 12/09/2006 13:51:15
Exactly my current 0.0 pvp set.
except for the Quote:
'rogue' GY-2 -5% cap usage mwd
which is a great idea and which I will buy now ^^
I've got the 5% to all turrets though...it uses slot 9, don't know if that conflicts with the med guns 5 %
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Testicular Testes
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Posted - 2006.09.12 13:51:00 -
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Zor's Custom Navgiation Hyper-Link in slot8. Other than that it looks good.
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stingy CEO
High roller corp
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Posted - 2006.09.12 13:54:00 -
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BEEP he's already using the rogue variant which does exactly the same thing.
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stingy CEO
High roller corp
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Posted - 2006.09.12 13:57:00 -
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Edited by: stingy CEO on 12/09/2006 14:02:37
geee... I'm all thumbs today.
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Watcher Four
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Posted - 2006.09.12 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: stingy CEO
BEEP he's already using the rogue variant which does exactly the same thing.
No, Hyper-Link (slot 8) adds +5% to ab/mwd speed, in addition to Rogue imps. There are two Zor imp - " Link" (on market) and "Hyper-Link" (you can see on market it if you have one, or on escrow).
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Croak
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.09.12 14:30:00 -
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Define perfect. If you're going for max speed, then what you have planned isn't bad at all. But speed isn't everything with a Vagabond...
Sell/don't buy the LG Omega and buy a few of the cheaper (Alpha, Beta) high-grade Snakes instead with that cash. You end up loosing some bonus multiplication, but you'll still be PLENTY fast, and free up slot 6 for something more useful overall...straightline speed isn't all that useful if you can't orbit well/align quickly, or track well, or hit hard with your autocannons...
Rogue AY-2 in Slot 6 (5% Agility)
Gunslinger AX-2 in Slot 7 (5% Tracking) - You've already got enough speed, you need to be able to hit with your primary weapons, and you're already dealing with accuracy issues fighting in falloff and moving fast.
Zor's Custom Navigation Hyperlink in Slot 8 (5% AB/MWD speed) Cheap, helps offset the loss of the CY-2 in Slot 7 if you don't think you're fast enough, but a MX-2 would still work nicely too.
Lancer G-2 Delta or Gunslinger CX-2 in Slot 9 (5% RoF or 5% Damage) - Offsets the loss of MX-2 in Slot 8, or adds to it. I'd go with the G-2 RoF to make up for always fighting in falloff, IMHO more chances to hit always works, whereas more damage per hit only works on those shots that hit...it's a little hard on ammo with medium AC, but nothing's perfect.
MY-2 in Slot 10 is ok, unless you can fit the Mindlinks and are in a gang.
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chingon
Caldari
The Ghost Riders
Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.12 14:54:00 -
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mm k thanks for the advice peeps,gonna rethink some of it maybe But i rather would like to keep the full snake set tho,well we'll see...
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stingy CEO
High roller corp
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Posted - 2006.09.12 15:19:00 -
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Edited by: stingy CEO on 12/09/2006 15:21:31
I agree on the R.O.F. and tracking implant, but about not buying the omega....
It depends a bit wether you gonna run stabs on your vaga or nanos besides the Gyroes.
If you DO get the omega, and you run two nanoes, You will be plenty agile so that manouvring at 5km/sec becomes a dream.
Also the extra acceleration + insane top speed will make it so that as long as you avoid webbers, you don't need the stabs in 95% of cases that you otherwise would need them.
With the type of momentum gained from a full snakeset, you can even glance into a web, and bust through the webrange again before you slow down enough to get popped.
If you run stabs or pdu's, then forsaking the Omega for an agility implant starts to make more sense to me. Flying a snakeset without nanoes is a bit stiff even in a Vaga, you will overshoot alot because of turning Radius.
just my two cents.
About the R.O.F implant in Slot 9, yeah you will lose cap reduction on MWD, but you can sortoff compensate for that by using a Domi MWD. Domi MWD will fit fine gridwise as long as you don't run double extender setups.
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KIAEddZ
Caldari
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.12 15:32:00 -
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Speed is the vagas weapon.
Full set of LG Snakes and HG Omega (Lg if you cant afford hg)
Zor Hyper 5% MWD or Shaq 8%
Rogue 5% speed and 5% MWD
Rogue Cap reducer
Job done
9k sec wih half decent gang skills
30k Domi scrambler, and youll tackle b4 they know whats going on.
And just imagine if you had 10 Vagas in your corp all like this....... ;)
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Dexter Rast
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2006.09.12 15:39:00 -
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since you only need to go SO fast to be efective in a vagabond, what would a full set of HALO implants be like instead of the snakes, then use the other speed enhancing implants
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2006.09.12 16:56:00 -
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You need Zors Hyper link for max speed.
Wherever you went - here you are.
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Ortu Konsinni
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.12 17:24:00 -
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For the record, yeah, Shaqil's implant goes in slot 7 (I also happen to have one for sale  ).
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chingon
Caldari
The Ghost Riders
Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.12 17:30:00 -
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how much for that shaqil imp m8?
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Ortu Konsinni
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.12 17:36:00 -
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I started an auction for it (and other mods) earlier: Linkage
It's a short auction and I think the price is good, hopefully I'm right
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chingon
Caldari
The Ghost Riders
Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.12 19:34:00 -
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ok i'm going with this so far:
slot 1-6: lg snake set
slot 7: ?
slot 8: zor's +5% ab/mwd
slot 9: 'rogue' GY-2 -5% cap mwd
slot 10: 'rogue' MY-2 +5% ab/mwd
So still no outcome for slot 7,got these as candidates:
- +5% turret fallof (does it increase hitting chance?)
- +5% turret tracking (expensive,but like said might be good)
- +5% speed (yeah another speed mod)
- +8% speed (if we go for speed might as well make the best of it)
So what do you guys think? And thx for all comments already
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Testicular Testes
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Posted - 2006.09.12 19:47:00 -
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CY-2/Shaqil. Don't let the haters talk you out of it tbh. Theres both something to be said for cumulative stacking effects as well as simply the limit for speed usefulness being pretty damn high.
Also, 5% agility is nice-ish, but is more interesting if you're trying to go budget. Otherwise the Omega is pricier and provides a larger increase to orbit velocity (1/0.95 < 1.08).
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