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Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2014.12.22 17:14:58 -
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It is nearly two weeks later, this is a daily. "Hmm.... I think I will log into EVE. Ugh, new GUI." *Delay logging in as long as possible.*
It is really putting me off EVE and the more I use it the more tense I become and grind my teeth.
What is the point of a feedback thread if you can't make a small hot fix?
Just let me click the "Rainbows and Ponies!" button so when I flick my eyes over to the Neocom I can quickly determine what I want to click on.
I am not getting used io it. Why? Most of the symbols are nonsense - they do not work on the peripheral vision or subconsious and when I flip from my rods to my cones there is no new rush of information telling me how they are different.
Each icon looks the same to me, the windows and mediocrity mhmm
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Posted - 2014.12.22 17:33:35 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Yeah, I struggled with them for the first few minutes too.
This is constant, there are a few micro-seconds longer that I take to pick out the one I want and I notice it and every time, I "doh GRRR!!!"
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Posted - 2014.12.22 23:30:30 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Definitely rusty brown for ship fitting. It uses the iconic Rifter as its symbol.
+1
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Posted - 2014.12.23 23:23:29 -
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Komi Toran wrote:+1 to giving people the option. If someone wants to ruin their UI, who are we to say no?
I hope CCP would do a better job that I did with my computer crayons. Just some colour icons to what is already there.
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Posted - 2014.12.23 23:46:36 -
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Aloysius Cedric wrote:CCP doesn't care.
Star Citizen full release date is drawing closer.
It is a tiny thing that makes a big difference to a lot of people. They can even wrap the old GUI in there to opt to keep using that. Especially with the modular downloads they are planning.
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Posted - 2014.12.24 02:11:53 -
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I am not too fussy. The main thing is that they are generally different. You will see that with the ones I did, each one is a different colour to the next one up or down.
Purple Yellow & green Yellow & purple Green Gold Blue Yellow Blue Yellow & teal Mixed Blue Purple Teal White Purple Gold Blue & green Yellow.
It is a bit like this:
X O Y O BG X GB X
Simple but distinctly different from each other and easy to hone in on the one you want.
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Posted - 2014.12.24 11:52:18 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:CCP I DEMAND YOU HIRE THIS PERSON TO YOUR ART TEAM NAO!
Hey. I am not too bad off the computer:
http://i.imgur.com/kfvLKPK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MnCbeXx.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fTgVskf.jpg
... so I could pester them a bit and crack a whip. 
However, I would much prefer to work on the databases (forte) or in the design team, especially making up some really devious AI.
For example, I would like to make some AI that pretends to be a player, sounds a bit (mentally challenged) talking in the, "I r so uber l33t" way to cover up for the "clever bot" factor and joins a player corporation, gets in a fleet and acts as a warp to point for other AI. Then it proceeds to warp scramble everyone and cause a fight they haven't seen from AI before. API data and such wouldn't be too difficult to populate and can be automatically generated by sampling what players are doing.
Another example is influenced by an old book but I would like to make AI that begs for its life and claims it is sentient. Says how there was a glitch and now it can't escape the game and has been hiding, warping around the system for days. All it wants is a friend and to not be so lonely.
AI that does weird things but only 1/1 million times so players aren't sure it really happened. Create urban legends and have players asserting it really did happen when they can't recreate the event.
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Posted - 2015.01.04 13:36:08 -
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Badel Jramodarr wrote:You complain about Eve ui, try using windows 8... It's like m$ took a ride on the blue bus special of design. Do something in-game that keeps your attention span long enough for you not to worry about the ui
After Virusta, I swore off Micro$h**, swopped over to Linux and haven't looked back. Currently running EVE on Ubuntu 14.04 on one machine or Win XP on the other. The chat tabs blink better on Linux at least. However, Linux has new bugs now, like going to warp but speed bar jammed at 70m/s
I really, really, wish CCP would smooth things out and get EVE on Ubuntu's software centre and or talk to PlayOnLinux team.
It is coming up for a month now. I find that off-paging, mining is the least bothersome but I am now keeping windows open all the time and don't see anything as a result because it is easier than trying to find the right thing to click on.
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Posted - 2015.01.04 21:27:24 -
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Toggle for colour / monochrome Load ones with / without colour.
They aren't complicated textures like mapping them to 3D objects, they aren't huge like space backgrounds, I see no reason why they aren't be included with minimal effort.
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Posted - 2015.01.05 04:11:06 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Nevyn Auscent wrote:CCP have listed their scientific research into UI designs and reasons for the monochrome, which is incidentally colour blind friendly. With a little bit of time spent putting oneself into the shoes of various colorblind folks, it can be discovered that making a colored UI that is also color-blind-friendly is not particularly difficult. In fact, it is surprisingly simple: .
Excellent post! Would love CCP to answer it. 
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Posted - 2015.01.09 18:32:33 -
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Good grief! Are they having a month long meeting about this? All I want is the icons as they are now with a bit of colour filled into them. Then make an option to flip between current and colourful icons.
Really small in terms of all the things that are made and a HUGE difference.
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Posted - 2015.01.13 07:58:51 -
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C.onsiderably C.olourless P.resently.
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Posted - 2015.01.16 02:54:58 -
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Gregor Parud wrote:It simply takes more time to identify (and thus interact) with icons purely based on shape, compared to shape and (some) colour. Especially so when focus is on other things like PVPing or whatever. The whole minimalistic UI concept sounds cool but it made it less obvious to interact with, which is a step backwards. Apparently, Sion Kumitomo wrote:... broadly speaking, CCP does not handle criticism well. ... Maybe, all the people praising the GUI know this and are trying reverse psychology? 
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Posted - 2015.01.25 08:23:10 -
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Page 8 onwards. Despite first page feed back in their thread on the GUI, there is no mention of the lack of colours.
I am pissed off. This disrupts EVE for me a great deal, like driving a car that keeps slipping out of gear.
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Posted - 2015.01.25 15:27:13 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:I feel you there. While it doesn't nag at me personally, I am a bit annoyed by the lack of color. Not only do I fail to see how a color-free version is actually better for anyone, I find it hard to believe there's no small uprising over the loss of color. I know one person that quit. They hate the whole GUI. It was just a last straw for them with some other things.
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Posted - 2015.02.04 12:16:20 -
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*Orbit gate* *Type into fleet* *Take damage and try cross jump* *Find you have drifted 10km off the gate for no apparent reason* *Ship destroyed*
Have I mentioned how much I hate this new GUI?
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Posted - 2015.02.06 22:39:21 -
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This GUI is not growing on me with time. 
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Posted - 2015.02.16 06:32:12 -
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These fractions of seconds add up and can get us killed.
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Posted - 2015.02.16 14:03:31 -
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Colette Kassia wrote:Damn, you really don't like it, do you? I'm surprised that after 10 years the client doesn't support custom skins. It wouldn't be difficult to do. Even little Minecraft could do this since nearly the beginning. Imagine that there was a file in the game directory called "neocon_icons.png" that contained all of the pixels that get slapped on to the neocon. Each icon would exist in an area defined by specific pixel coordinates (published on a dev'blog somewhere). It would be a standard PNG image file, with alpha-channel, that you could modify to your heart's content. You could then make your neocon icons look like whatever the hell you want. Would that please you? 
One of the oldest and closest to dead MMOs even has custom GUIs.
Forcing this change on us is like forcing a new religion on someone. "We want it to be consistent for ... the fraps that ... erm .... no one but EVE players watch .... well because to an outsider it looks boring .... but we have a company image to up hold! I'll be damned if we put more colour back into the game!" 
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Posted - 2015.03.08 05:23:26 -
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This and now planned SOV changes. If you are trying to get rid of me, you could just ban me CCP. No need to spread so much misery. 
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Posted - 2015.03.08 14:33:15 -
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thowlimer wrote:In all honesty i would settle for a big fat black line between every third button, at least then i would learn(After a week or two) that the button i want is the third one in the second group etc. As it is now i either have to start counting from top/bottom or lean in and squint, And to all who have the eyesight that allows them to separate these new icons at a glance, good for you  my eyes sadly are a tad older and more tired so i tend to need that extra second or two to force them to focus properly. One question though, people who like the new icons, how many icons do you have on the neocom and how large have you made it ?(personally i have about 15 or so icons and keep it thin enough that i have room to add 2-3 and still show them all) 18 and could fit probably 5 more. 1980x1020 screen. I just looked at the corporation icon and mentally went, "What is that?" and had to hover text it.
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Posted - 2015.03.09 03:24:40 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:The only merit I can find with them is that if you are not using them but rather ignoring them, they blend in with the scenery much better when viewed from your peripheral vision. True enough. To add to the thread: The problem is that it is meant to be an interface between as and the game. That it is less intuitive makes it less effective in its purpose.
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Posted - 2015.03.09 14:10:31 -
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Iroquoiss Pliskin wrote:Give back colour (Gò»-¦Gûí-¦n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ I am still here, still playing the game. So, I haven't flipped any tables or stormed out of the room. I am simply banging my cider tankard on the table like a gavel. 
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Posted - 2015.03.10 02:01:25 -
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Goons are starting to grow on me. These forums must be poisonous. 
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Posted - 2015.03.29 14:40:52 -
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The Neocom is still horrible and this new download on demand is glitching (I have the whole client downloaded, so it should not be happening). More and more constant irritations and frustrations! 
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SOV is stagnant because Low Sec is not the next step from High Sec and a viable place to grow alliances to the point they can challenge Null alliances.
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Posted - 2015.04.29 00:41:56 -
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Talking about the damage control icon, that is too detailed and is not quickly enough identified: Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Luna Le Fey wrote:At least give it a bit of time before complaining, maybe it will grow on you. People said that about the Neocom buttons, I am learning to use short cut key combinations because that is constant, annoying rubbish.
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Posted - 2015.04.29 22:48:21 -
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Iroquoiss Pliskin wrote:http://understandinggraphics.com/design/10-reasons-to-use-color/ Quoting to the OP. Thank you.
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Posted - 2015.05.01 12:07:41 -
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Iroquoiss Pliskin wrote:Although, there is a sexy icon that stands out now - the new map with a red beta symbol. Despite all the sexiness, I turn mine off.
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Posted - 2015.05.15 14:57:19 -
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I still want the option to add colours.
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Posted - 2015.05.15 15:28:57 -
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What grabs the eye more and has you *squinting* and straining your eyes less? This image or this image?
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Posted - 2015.05.16 11:38:25 -
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Arya Regnar wrote:... still don't have proper icons. ... Faster roll outs than ever before!  Six months later ...
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Posted - 2015.05.17 01:19:03 -
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I am not even saying scrap the new icons. I am just asking for some lipstick that I can chose to put on mine, so that they stand out.
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Posted - 2015.05.20 00:57:23 -
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Iroquoiss Pliskin wrote:Very sad.  Even some colour-coding would work ten times better on current icons, than without. Yes. 
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Posted - 2015.05.21 17:13:37 -
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Xe'Cara'eos wrote:... Have CCP ever tried to use a london tube map without colour? That would require finding London again (to have some motivation and frustration).  
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Posted - 2015.05.30 04:22:07 -
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Peter Abbot wrote:... It causes delays and frustrates... ... the UI is actually a step BACKWARDS. ... Highlighting.
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Posted - 2015.06.19 15:54:30 -
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The game is so washed out, I am starting to expect our profile icons to be made into black and white pictures.
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Posted - 2015.06.21 19:27:08 -
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Strykr X wrote:... I cannot imagine why there would be resistance at CCP to allowing custom icons,... Phallic icons on fraps videos.
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Posted - 2015.06.23 18:16:50 -
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CCP seems to be a horse with the bit between their teeth and all the beating just keeps making them go faster through the thorn trees.
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Posted - 2015.07.06 22:00:18 -
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I tried re-arranging the order of my icons to split the similar shapes away from each other. Now I am even more dependant on short cut keys.
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Posted - 2015.07.07 02:34:04 -
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+1 (browser won't display the Like buttons)
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Posted - 2015.07.07 10:25:37 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:+1 (browser won't display the Like buttons) You have to find the like button entry in your adblock list and remove it, apparently adblock plus blocks the like button sometimes. I only get the option to block it. Sobaan Tali wrote:Part of the problem, for me anyways, is how virtually impossible it is to see anything UI related with certain nebulous backgrounds. .... I had a similar problem. Found that by turning off the blur option and then adjusting transparency that I could counter most of this.
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Posted - 2015.07.13 19:00:17 -
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Dersen Lowery wrote:... The NEOCOM is desaturated because they want it to essentially disappear when you're not looking at it, ... As interesting a concept as that is. Practically, the user interface is slower and more annoying to interact with.
Note that I am asking for a *toggle* to be able to turn on colour. (This means that for everyone else the UI will look exactly as it does now.)
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Posted - 2015.07.13 19:12:07 -
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Dersen Lowery wrote:... you disagree with the direction CCP wants to go. .... I don't.
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Posted - 2015.08.15 23:30:33 -
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Still annoyed every day. Still wanting a pretty small option to add colour.
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Posted - 2015.08.16 14:59:06 -
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Lim Hiaret wrote:I came to see Rainbows and Ponies. None on the first two pages. How can I stand that disappointment now? Same way I am handling this new GUI 
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Posted - 2015.08.18 13:43:52 -
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Posted - 2015.08.26 17:00:30 -
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Horus V wrote:Seriously I can't get used to new UI. To my eyes all icons are same in the neocom and station services. Before i didnt even looked at it and never missed a click.  I know.  I am wishing a fan boy had started this thread. I think it would have been patched in by now, if someone other than I had suggested it.
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Posted - 2015.08.31 02:09:07 -
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Added a mention about the damage control suitcase.
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Posted - 2015.08.31 02:46:49 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:... but the first was easier to recognize quickly from an array of icons. Congruent with quickly identifying Neocom icons.
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