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Gavin Xu Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.12.22 18:57:26 - [1] - Quote I came back to this game after two years. I played through some missions and it was fine. After I wanted to pursue my exploration career I noticed that I can only find wormholes!? I jumped to about six different areas in high sec Gallente and I cannot find any of the data/arch/salvage sties... After jumping through the wormholes I still only find other wormholes at the other end. What's going on?
Vincenzo Arbosa Locust Assets 68	Posted - 2014.12.22 19:11:44 - [2] - Quote Try other areas.. high sec exploration is, at best, a crap shoot. Chances are the area has just been picked over already if you are in a heavily traveled area, or an area with someone who also likes high sec exploration. My advice would be to jump into low/null for exploration. `"Leave the gun. Take the cannoli."-á`
J'Poll Green Skull LLC 5113	Posted - 2014.12.22 19:26:38 - [3] - Quote Exploration is kind of like a dice roll. There is a small chance you roll 6...and eventually, after many rolls you will have your 6. But, it can also happen you roll 6, 5 times in a row. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
TRONEON GAME GRID 9	Posted - 2014.12.22 19:56:32 - [4] - Quote Yeah too many wormholes in EVE now, completely annoying for explorers, should be an option to not detect them before even scanning or have new probe types just for wormholes and have them separate... Anyone with half a brain can come up with a better system than the current one. Finding nothing but wormholes all the time when you are not planning on even entering them is just plain stupid and annoying game design.
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 7752	Posted - 2014.12.22 20:03:37 - [5] - Quote TRONEON wrote: Yeah too many wormholes in EVE now, completely annoying for explorers, should be an option to not detect them before even scanning or have new probe types just for wormholes and have them separate... Anyone with half a brain can come up with a better system than the current one. Finding nothing but wormholes all the time when you are not planning on even entering them is just plain stupid and annoying game design. No ,too many explorers, not enough people hunting them. The sites in highsec get run constantly, if you're after good content , go to low sec or into one of those holes you find. "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers." =]I[=
Cara Forelli Green Skull LLC 801	Posted - 2014.12.22 20:07:10 - [6] - Quote TRONEON wrote: Yeah too many wormholes in EVE now, completely annoying for explorers, should be an option to not detect them before even scanning or have new probe types just for wormholes and have them separate... Anyone with half a brain can come up with a better system than the current one. Finding nothing but wormholes all the time when you are not planning on even entering them is just plain stupid and annoying game design. Ignore this guy. He wants to bend the entire game around his gameplay. The reason you find more wormholes than other sites is they don't despawn after the first person finds/runs them like other sites. You just need to go to a quieter area of space and you will find plenty of sites (sometimes wormholes are actually useful for this!) Adventures New player with questions? Join my public channel in game: *House Forelli* GSLLC is recruiting
Orlacc 695	Posted - 2014.12.22 22:06:06 - [7] - Quote TRONEON wrote: Yeah too many wormholes in EVE now, completely annoying for explorers, should be an option to not detect them before even scanning or have new probe types just for wormholes and have them separate... Anyone with half a brain can come up with a better system than the current one. Finding nothing but wormholes all the time when you are not planning on even entering them is just plain stupid and annoying game design. There is an option to not detect them. Just uncheck them in the filters. You do realize that every noob out there is an "explorer" and as a result systems are picked clean quickly. Especially in high sec. Did you know that Wormholes are full of sites? Man you are a whiney one. "Measure Twice, Cut Once."
J'Poll Green Skull LLC 5133	Posted - 2014.12.22 22:12:08 - [8] - Quote Orlacc wrote: TRONEON wrote: Yeah too many wormholes in EVE now, completely annoying for explorers, should be an option to not detect them before even scanning or have new probe types just for wormholes and have them separate... Anyone with half a brain can come up with a better system than the current one. Finding nothing but wormholes all the time when you are not planning on even entering them is just plain stupid and annoying game design. There is an option to not detect them. Just uncheck them in the filters. You do realize that every noob out there is an "explorer" and as a result systems are picked clean quickly. Especially in high sec. Did you know that Wormholes are full of sites? Man you are a whiney one. Orlacc, 2 more days...jsut 2 more days. He started on the 3rd, and judging he is demanding that CCP lowers their price so he will sub, as he won't if they don't...it's just 2 more days (3 + 21 = 24th December) Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
Sabriz Adoudel Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 4185	Posted - 2014.12.22 22:58:28 - [9] - Quote OP - Try an isolated area of highsec. The systems Ala, Ney, Steggete and Odotte (the last two require you to transit through Fasse, a very safe lowsec system) are all quite out of the way and probably are not overfished. Once you get confident with lowsec, try the Solitude region - its lowsec area is very quiet. Chaos. Opportunity. Destruction. Excitement... Vote #1 Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10
Orlacc 695	Posted - 2014.12.22 23:39:11 - [10] - Quote J'Poll wrote: Orlacc wrote: TRONEON wrote: Yeah too many wormholes in EVE now, completely annoying for explorers, should be an option to not detect them before even scanning or have new probe types just for wormholes and have them separate... Anyone with half a brain can come up with a better system than the current one. Finding nothing but wormholes all the time when you are not planning on even entering them is just plain stupid and annoying game design. There is an option to not detect them. Just uncheck them in the filters. You do realize that every noob out there is an "explorer" and as a result systems are picked clean quickly. Especially in high sec. Did you know that Wormholes are full of sites? Man you are a whiney one. Orlacc, 2 more days...jsut 2 more days. He started on the 3rd, and judging he is demanding that CCP lowers their price so he will sub, as he won't if they don't...it's just 2 more days (3 + 21 = 24th December) A truly Merry Xmas.....Zalig Kerstfeast "Measure Twice, Cut Once."
Gavin Xu Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.12.22 23:43:41 - [11] - Quote Sabriz Adoudel wrote: OP - Try an isolated area of highsec. The systems Ala, Ney, Steggete and Odotte (the last two require you to transit through Fasse, a very safe lowsec system) are all quite out of the way and probably are not overfished. Once you get confident with lowsec, try the Solitude region - its lowsec area is very quiet. Thanks I will definitely try this route! I appreciate your help people!
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 7773	Posted - 2014.12.22 23:57:41 - [12] - Quote Gavin Xu wrote: Sabriz Adoudel wrote: OP - Try an isolated area of highsec. The systems Ala, Ney, Steggete and Odotte (the last two require you to transit through Fasse, a very safe lowsec system) are all quite out of the way and probably are not overfished. Once you get confident with lowsec, try the Solitude region - its lowsec area is very quiet. Thanks I will definitely try this route! I appreciate your help people! do actually try lowsec though , it is the pvp hunting reserve so you will technically be prey but 80% of "explorers don't go there so there is plenty of isk to be made you will just need to be on your toes because people like me will actively hunt you "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers." =]I[=
Sabriz Adoudel Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 4189	Posted - 2014.12.23 00:18:09 - [13] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Gavin Xu wrote: Sabriz Adoudel wrote: OP - Try an isolated area of highsec. The systems Ala, Ney, Steggete and Odotte (the last two require you to transit through Fasse, a very safe lowsec system) are all quite out of the way and probably are not overfished. Once you get confident with lowsec, try the Solitude region - its lowsec area is very quiet. Thanks I will definitely try this route! I appreciate your help people! do actually try lowsec though , it is the pvp hunting reserve so you will technically be prey but 80% of "explorers don't go there so there is plenty of isk to be made you will just need to be on your toes because people like me will actively hunt you Yep IMO you should use highsec to determine your strategies for the hacking game and to practice probing, then jump into lowsec soon. Chaos. Opportunity. Destruction. Excitement... Vote #1 Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10
Trevor Dalech Adeptus Assassinorum Silent Eviction 68	Posted - 2014.12.23 00:27:24 - [14] - Quote Sabriz Adoudel wrote: OP - Try an isolated area of highsec. The systems Ala, Ney, Steggete and Odotte (the last two require you to transit through Fasse, a very safe lowsec system) are all quite out of the way and probably are not overfished. Once you get confident with lowsec, try the Solitude region - its lowsec area is very quiet. Back when I started playing I used as a rule of thumb: if there are more than ten people in local, it's not worth the time to scan anything. Also, if it is within a dozen jumps of jita, don't bother. This was before the hacking changes in odyssey, when there was a LOT less competition. Nowadays I don't scan high sec anymore, but if I did I would probably only bother with empty island systems (surrounded by low sec) at least 25 jumps from Jita. Exploration is a lonely career, you want to go to those far reaches of space where no one goes because it is either too far, too empty, or because there is nothing (for them, not for you) to do there.
Hasikan Miallok Republic University Minmatar Republic 1283	Posted - 2014.12.23 00:47:51 - [15] - Quote Unlike missions where, give enough players, you could keep spawning new missions in a system until eventually the server collapsed or went into TIDI the supply of exploration sites is very limited meaning that in highsec they are going to either be impossible to find or, if still present, already looted of anything valuable.
Gavin Xu Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2014.12.23 03:12:07 - [16] - Quote Gavin Xu wrote: Sabriz Adoudel wrote: OP - Try an isolated area of highsec. The systems Ala, Ney, Steggete and Odotte (the last two require you to transit through Fasse, a very safe lowsec system) are all quite out of the way and probably are not overfished. Once you get confident with lowsec, try the Solitude region - its lowsec area is very quiet. Thanks I will definitely try this route! I appreciate your help people! After going to the four areas you suggested I only found combat sites. I made about 18 jumps to another low sec area, found a worm hole, jumped in, and found a data center. I was like hell yes so I went there as soon as possible. It turns out that my virus was too weak to do anything, and right when I decided to leave, some dude destroyed me and I died. :/ (it was a -1 security place btw). Please donate generously. (and get me into a corp)
Nicholas Hydrictis Niadrian Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2014.12.23 06:02:06 - [17] - Quote Call me crazy, and I dunno if this is a coincidence or an actual thing, but you know when you see the red spheres in your solar system map to scan down right? Well I noticed some of them are slightly larger than normal. Whenever I scan them they are exploration sites (not always data/relic) and the slightly smaller spheres are wormholes. Can someone confirm this? Also a tip iv'e learned on my own: If there are only two signatures in a system they are likely to be wormholes and if there is only one it is almost certainly a wormhole. My rule is only bother to scan if there are three or more sigs and a small local. Exception to that rule if is if I can see that one of the sigs is larger than the other. Also once you find the site, get with within 14 AU of it, and D-scan the site. Adjust your D-scans FOV to 5 or 15 degrees. (Remember the D-scan FOV is based on where you look, not where the ship is pointing.) Also I found the big fins on the heron/buzzard make nice iron sights for this if you align to your target before you go to it. Doing this can save you an awkard/violent encounter. But as an avid explorer rookie myself I can attest to that hisec exploration is not that great. Sometimes I get lucky, like today where I found a decryptor that was 5 mill alone, some T-II blueprint and about 20 mil total minus the blueprint. But still, just plain too many people, people who actually hurt the spawn rate of them by not completing their sites, only leaving garbage for you to find. And to add insult to injury, I saw a Stratios (Read: A very expensive cruiser with massive scan bonuses) running hisec sites. Showoff. Also get a prototype cloak for your lowsec explorer if you haven't already. Btw, if you don't mind the horrendous locking range/time, try Sir Livingston's magnate fit. "If we keep killing every other sentient being we meet, there will be nothing left in the universe but corpses and enemies." -Nameless Sage, Ring Runner
Nicholas Hydrictis Niadrian Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2014.12.23 06:04:09 - [18] - Quote Double post. "If we keep killing every other sentient being we meet, there will be nothing left in the universe but corpses and enemies." -Nameless Sage, Ring Runner
Cara Forelli Green Skull LLC 802	Posted - 2014.12.23 08:28:41 - [19] - Quote Nicholas Hydrictis Niadrian wrote: Call me crazy, and I dunno if this is a coincidence or an actual thing, but you know when you see the red spheres in your solar system map to scan down right? Well I noticed some of them are slightly larger than normal. Whenever I scan them they are exploration sites (not always data/relic) and the slightly smaller spheres are wormholes. Can someone confirm this? Signatures have varying strengths, depending on what they are. It's not as simple as wormholes are weaker than data/relic however, it depends on the type of wormhole and type of data/relic, etc. Nicholas Hydrictis Niadrian wrote: Also a tip iv'e learned on my own: If there are only two signatures in a system they are likely to be wormholes and if there is only one it is almost certainly a wormhole. My rule is only bother to scan if there are three or more sigs and a small local. Exception to that rule if is if I can see that one of the sigs is larger than the other. This is just statistics really. With a high percentage of wormholes, a system with only one sig is likely to have a wormhole. It could be something else though. Nicholas Hydrictis Niadrian wrote: Doing this can save you an awkard/violent encounter with a competing explorer. Or prepare you for it. Adventures New player with questions? Join my public channel in game: *House Forelli* GSLLC is recruiting
Sabriz Adoudel Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 4192	Posted - 2014.12.23 09:29:19 - [20] - Quote Gavin Xu wrote: Gavin Xu wrote: Sabriz Adoudel wrote: OP - Try an isolated area of highsec. The systems Ala, Ney, Steggete and Odotte (the last two require you to transit through Fasse, a very safe lowsec system) are all quite out of the way and probably are not overfished. Once you get confident with lowsec, try the Solitude region - its lowsec area is very quiet. Thanks I will definitely try this route! I appreciate your help people! After going to the four areas you suggested I only found combat sites. I made about 18 jumps to another low sec area, found a worm hole, jumped in, and found a data center. I was like hell yes so I went there as soon as possible. It turns out that my virus was too weak to do anything, and right when I decided to leave, some dude destroyed me and I died. :/ (it was a -1 security place btw). Please donate generously. (and get me into a corp) UPDATE: AYEEE I HACKED A DATA SYSTEM! I MADE IT MA! (and ~1.2m worth of isk...) That's out of the ordinary for those systems, when I'm out ganking miners I often do it there and see cosmic signatures in all of them most times. But, exploration is nothing if not unreliable. Chaos. Opportunity. Destruction. Excitement... Vote #1 Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10
Davey Talvanen Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 7	Posted - 2014.12.23 13:05:54 - [21] - Quote Gavin Xu wrote: Gavin Xu wrote: Sabriz Adoudel wrote: OP - Try an isolated area of highsec. The systems Ala, Ney, Steggete and Odotte (the last two require you to transit through Fasse, a very safe lowsec system) are all quite out of the way and probably are not overfished. Once you get confident with lowsec, try the Solitude region - its lowsec area is very quiet. Thanks I will definitely try this route! I appreciate your help people! After going to the four areas you suggested I only found combat sites. I made about 18 jumps to another low sec area, found a worm hole, jumped in, and found a data center. I was like hell yes so I went there as soon as possible. It turns out that my virus was too weak to do anything, and right when I decided to leave, some dude destroyed me and I died. :/ (it was a -1 security place btw). Please donate generously. (and get me into a corp) UPDATE: AYEEE I HACKED A DATA SYSTEM! I MADE IT MA! (and ~1.2m worth of isk...) If you want a corp join BNI . You can home up in GE-8JV which has buyback programs and herons (no need to go to high sec) and then explore stain ; the first few systems in the catch/stain pipe are camped but they start getting deserted quite fast. A site may have 60 mil + isk but I get 2-3 mil for a data site and a lot more for relic sites
Rahmiro Discrete Astrographic Reconnaissance Technologies This Is How We Roll 70	Posted - 2014.12.23 14:37:38 - [22] - Quote Keep in mind the WH's classes 1 - 3 will spawn Null relic and data sites. This risk is higher but the rewards are well worth the effort for the serious explorer. As you are exploring the backwoods of New Edens high and lowsec, take the time to learn to identify the different WH class by appearance and description. The Null relic and Data sites are easily distinguished from the sleeper sites: Just look for the name of the pirate faction in the title. These sites do not contain rats. The only danger is from that of your fellow players. Again, well worth the effort for the willing and daring. Dscan, dscan dscan! Bookmark the return WH. I never seen these people in my life. I don't recognize them Your Honor
Mo Skor Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2014.12.23 15:18:07 - [23] - Quote Nicholas Hydrictis Niadrian wrote: (Remember the D-scan FOV is based on where you look, not where the ship is pointing.) Also I found the big fins on the heron/buzzard make nice iron sights for this if you align to your target before you go to it.[/url]. Can anyone explain this? I thought I had to align the ship, and that is where the dscan looked. Is Nick saying it's where the screen is looking at? And why would you use the fins for sights? ELI5
Major Trant Future Corps Sleeper Social Club 1281	Posted - 2014.12.23 16:14:15 - [24] - Quote Mo Skor wrote: Nicholas Hydrictis Niadrian wrote: (Remember the D-scan FOV is based on where you look, not where the ship is pointing.) Also I found the big fins on the heron/buzzard make nice iron sights for this if you align to your target before you go to it.[/url]. Can anyone explain this? I thought I had to align the ship, and that is where the dscan looked. Is Nick saying it's where the screen is looking at? And why would you use the fins for sights? ELI5 It is where the screen is pointing not your ship. However, you don't need to manually aim anymore, just have auto center on so that the screen aligns to anything you click on.
Nicholas Hydrictis Niadrian Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2014.12.23 23:14:12 - [25] - Quote Cara Forelli wrote: Signatures have varying strengths, depending on what they are. It's not as simple as wormholes are weaker than data/relic however, it depends on the type of wormhole and type of data/relic, etc. Oh ok, thanks for clearing that up. One thing I did notice is that generally speaking, the harder something is to scan down, the higher the likelihood of the site having better loot. "If we keep killing every other sentient being we meet, there will be nothing left in the universe but corpses and enemies." -Nameless Sage, Ring Runner
Orlacc 699	Posted - 2014.12.23 23:30:00 - [26] - Quote Nicholas Hydrictis Niadrian wrote: Cara Forelli wrote: Signatures have varying strengths, depending on what they are. It's not as simple as wormholes are weaker than data/relic however, it depends on the type of wormhole and type of data/relic, etc. Oh ok, thanks for clearing that up. One thing I did notice is that generally speaking, the harder something is to scan down, the higher the likelihood of the site having better loot. You are getting the hang of it. Now, if you want everyone else you are competing with to know, please feel free. Exploration is PvP too ya know. "Measure Twice, Cut Once."
J'Poll Green Skull LLC 5163	Posted - 2014.12.24 00:42:38 - [27] - Quote Major Trant wrote: Mo Skor wrote: Nicholas Hydrictis Niadrian wrote: (Remember the D-scan FOV is based on where you look, not where the ship is pointing.) Also I found the big fins on the heron/buzzard make nice iron sights for this if you align to your target before you go to it.[/url]. Can anyone explain this? I thought I had to align the ship, and that is where the dscan looked. Is Nick saying it's where the screen is looking at? And why would you use the fins for sights? ELI5 It is where the screen is pointing not your ship. However, you don't need to manually aim anymore, just have auto center on so that the screen aligns to anything you click on. Confirming that that D-scan is using "your view" as a relation to where to scan, not the direction your ship is facing. So if you are looking over your ship towards the right and you scan at a 5 degree angle, you are scanning the 5 degree to your right of the ship... Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
Nicholas Hydrictis Niadrian Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2014.12.24 00:56:42 - [28] - Quote Cara Forelli wrote: You are getting the hang of it. Now, if you want everyone else you are competing with to know, please feel free. Exploration is PvP too ya know. Problem with that sentiment is that it's common knowledge the harder/more dangerous doing X in EVE, the bigger the payout. Now what I won't tell you is the way I devised to nab those annoying sites you normally don't have the skills/probe strength to access. "If we keep killing every other sentient being we meet, there will be nothing left in the universe but corpses and enemies." -Nameless Sage, Ring Runner
Cara Forelli Green Skull LLC 804	Posted - 2014.12.24 17:42:46 - [29] - Quote Nicholas Hydrictis Niadrian wrote: Cara Forelli wrote: You are getting the hang of it. Now, if you want everyone else you are competing with to know, please feel free. Exploration is PvP too ya know. Problem with that sentiment is that it's common knowledge the harder/more dangerous doing X in EVE, the bigger the payout. Now what I won't tell you is the way I devised to nab those annoying sites you normally don't have the skills/probe strength to access. Libel! Slander!* or honest misquote Adventures New player with questions? Join my public channel in game: House Forelli* GSLLC is recruiting

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