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Tear Jar
New Order Logistics CODE.
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Posted - 2014.12.26 18:03:29 -
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Jerry T Pepridge wrote:Koniforous wrote:Estrith wrote:Would you get a trusted 3rd party to confirm this or audit your claims? This is the quickest way to prove your trustworthiness. Please do not avoid this question. 3rd party's / audits are p easy to get around champ. 
They aren't exactly easy. Mining is easy. Creating an alt and station trading for a month to build up a good trading history is not easy.
It's doable, but too much effort unless you are dedicated to scamming market discussion. |

Tigerras
Smash Incorporated
58
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Posted - 2014.12.26 18:09:36 -
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Tear Jar wrote:Jerry T Pepridge wrote:Koniforous wrote:Estrith wrote:Would you get a trusted 3rd party to confirm this or audit your claims? This is the quickest way to prove your trustworthiness. Please do not avoid this question. 3rd party's / audits are p easy to get around champ.  They aren't exactly easy. Mining is easy. Creating an alt and station trading for a month to build up a good trading history is not easy. It's doable, but too much effort unless you are dedicated to scamming market discussion.
Given that you will make money off the station trading it's not exactly wasted time. Given the typical long term of MD scams it's not that long of a time investment. |

Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
681
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Posted - 2014.12.26 18:16:04 -
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Tear Jar wrote:It's doable, but too much effort unless you are dedicated to scamming market discussion. You can scam plenty of isk without ever touching market discussions. So there isn't really any point in going to massive extra effort just to include the small number of players that frequent market discussions in your target pool. |

Aliventi
Hard Knocks Inc.
795
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Posted - 2014.12.26 18:18:29 -
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Aerarium Stabulum wrote:How safe is this bank? We appreciate that banks have had a long and often controversial history in EVE, so that's why we've taken measures to prevent theft or scams against our clients. Any director within the corporation has limited access to a small portion of the overall funds, preventing any single AWOL director from causing significant damage to the bank. So the directors are each going to have a small portion of the isk available to them. Directors you picked, who probably know each other because they are working together, and are magically never going to realize if they all decide to leave together then they can take all the isk. Safest bank indeed... |

mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3850
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Posted - 2014.12.27 00:34:17 -
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Herdo wrote:Regnar Avastum wrote:The mere fact that you ask why 15% is not sustainable raises questions. You shouldn't ask us why not but tell us why so. If you truly already profit from your activities you should know why 15% is not sustainable long term.
Offering 10% to my corpies when I ran a mini bank with a "mind blowing" cash reserve of 300M allowed me to get enough on the side and pay interest. But what will you do with 3B or better yet 30B, how will you still turn that around to pay us 15%? There is a point where a 15% monthly return is no longer possible, but it's by no means 3B or 30B or even close to it. Sure, at 300B you're going to have a bit more trouble with a 15% return, but 30B? 1% a day on 30B is 300M. At 30B capital, if I was netting 300M a day trading I would have quit. With that being said, I'll be contacting you shortly about purchasing one of your spreadsheets.  I'm turning 15% (or so) a month on 300b, it's not that hard. 
(note: guy in op is not me so he won't be able to)
Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal
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Tear Jar
New Order Logistics CODE.
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Posted - 2014.12.27 06:45:46 -
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Tigerras wrote:Tear Jar wrote:Jerry T Pepridge wrote:Koniforous wrote:Estrith wrote:Would you get a trusted 3rd party to confirm this or audit your claims? This is the quickest way to prove your trustworthiness. Please do not avoid this question. 3rd party's / audits are p easy to get around champ.  They aren't exactly easy. Mining is easy. Creating an alt and station trading for a month to build up a good trading history is not easy. It's doable, but too much effort unless you are dedicated to scamming market discussion. Given that you will make money off the station trading it's not exactly wasted time. Given the typical long term of MD scams it's not that long of a time investment.
Its a lot more work to station trade 1b isk on one account and 19b isk on another than 20b isk on one account. There is extra effort in managing this alt who is making a tiny profit compared to your main. And all this for the chance to make a few bil off of MD?
Not worth it. An audit will filter out people out for a quick buck perfectly fine.
What it won't do is tell you if the so far legit trader will take 100b isk and run when given the chance. |

Lazy Bones
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.12.27 10:25:00 -
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What it won't do is tell you if the so far legit trader will take 100b isk and run when given the chance.
Isn't this true of almost all investments both in and out of game? I think that is why they call it risk. Can only roll the dice and see what happens... and of course only spend what you can loose. |

Aerarium Stabulum
Imperial Investments
0
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Posted - 2014.12.27 11:03:38 -
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It is relatively easy to secure a turnover of 20%+ with 5-10b ISK in capital.
If we give each officer a 10b fund to deal with, the bank can be scaled up easily.
At the moment, however, we're only dealing with 20b ISK worth of investments - so it's manageable just by me and 2 fellow officers. As we scale up, we bring in more officers and continue to provider amazing turnovers for our clients.
This is more than just a bank - it's a revolution. |

Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research Nornir Empire
475
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Posted - 2014.12.27 11:11:24 -
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You must either be a McMoron or McMasochist . Bring on the proof of prior profit production!
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Aerarium Stabulum
Imperial Investments
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Posted - 2014.12.27 11:22:54 -
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Elizabeth Norn wrote:You must either be a McMoron or McMasochist  . Bring on the proof of prior profit production!
I'm neither a McMoron or a McMasochist. We don't associate with scammers.
I've got my best men working on Investing: The Imperial Way, a document that will go into the level of depth our client's expect when it comes to explaining our investment strategies. We are almost ready for publication, but are tweaking certain aspects of the document to ensure our competitor's cannot clone our strategies.
In the mean time, I'm always available to have discussions in game.
Why not join our public channel 'Imperial Investments'? You'll have the opportunity to talk to our officers who will be more than happy to arrange personalised accounts or answer any queries you might have.
Once again, I would like to thank everybody who's invested so far. I'm glad to be taking you all on amazing journey, and with your continued support, the sky is our only limit. |

Makhpella
Temet Nosce Ex Astra
20
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Posted - 2014.12.27 12:08:34 -
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mynnna wrote:I'm turning 15% (or so) a month on 300b, it's not that hard.  (note: guy in op is not me so he won't be able to)
well not everyone can sell overpriced shi*s to goon botters
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Aerarium Stabulum
Imperial Investments
0
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Posted - 2014.12.27 12:46:52 -
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Makhpella wrote:mynnna wrote:I'm turning 15% (or so) a month on 300b, it's not that hard.  (note: guy in op is not me so he won't be able to) well not everyone can sell overpriced shi*s to goon botters
This isn't a place to fire cheap insults at respected members of the MD community.
Please take this elsewhere. Imperial Investments fully supports Mynnna and all market pioneers in EVE Online. |

Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research Nornir Empire
477
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Posted - 2014.12.27 14:22:13 -
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Aerarium Stabulum wrote:Elizabeth Norn wrote:You must either be a McMoron or McMasochist  . Bring on the proof of prior profit production! I'm neither a McMoron or a McMasochist. We don't associate with scammers.
Who's a scammer?
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Tear Jar
New Order Logistics CODE.
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Posted - 2014.12.27 15:32:35 -
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Lazy Bones wrote:What it won't do is tell you if the so far legit trader will take 100b isk and run when given the chance.
Isn't this true of almost all investments both in and out of game? I think that is why they call it risk. Can only roll the dice and see what happens... and of course only spend what you can loose.
IRL the police will do a pretty good job of stopping that. Scams happen but they are much much more rare. |

Aerarium Stabulum
Imperial Investments
0
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Posted - 2014.12.27 17:32:19 -
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Currently experiencing connectivity issues with our website. Sorry to all clients who are unable to access their control panel.
I'll keep this post updated. |

Regnar Avastum
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Posted - 2014.12.27 18:00:35 -
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All clients? Uhmm I find it hard to believe that someone enrolled given the discussion in this thread
Providing Trade/Manufacture/Research spreadsheets and 3rd Party Services
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mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3850
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Posted - 2014.12.27 18:05:27 -
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Aerarium Stabulum wrote:Makhpella wrote:mynnna wrote:I'm turning 15% (or so) a month on 300b, it's not that hard.  (note: guy in op is not me so he won't be able to) well not everyone can sell overpriced shi*s to goon botters This isn't a place to fire cheap insults at respected members of the MD community. Please take this elsewhere. Imperial Investments fully supports Mynnna and all market pioneers in EVE Online.
Sucking up doesn't make you less of a scammer. 
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Aerarium Stabulum
Imperial Investments
0
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Posted - 2014.12.27 18:13:19 -
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Regnar Avastum wrote:All clients? Uhmm I find it hard to believe that someone enrolled given the discussion in this thread
All of the heavyweight trolls hang out here, but this is by no means the main marketing stream. This is more of a place to connect with experienced market individuals and build my platform based on their feedback. |

X ATM092
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
459
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Posted - 2014.12.27 18:39:55 -
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This isn't how you start something like this. You need to start it with people you already have a relationship with and build it up from there. |

Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research Nornir Empire
477
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Posted - 2014.12.27 20:35:12 -
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Aerarium Stabulum wrote:Regnar Avastum wrote:All clients? Uhmm I find it hard to believe that someone enrolled given the discussion in this thread All of the heavyweight trolls hang out here, but this is by no means the main marketing stream. This is more of a place to connect with experienced market individuals and build my platform based on their feedback.
I guess Amarr local is the buzzword buzzword buzzword.
http://evelocal.com/p/Aerarium_Stabulum
http://evelocal.com/talk/206776721
Less words, more action please.
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Aerarium Stabulum
Imperial Investments
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Posted - 2014.12.27 20:44:29 -
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Elizabeth Norn wrote:Aerarium Stabulum wrote:Regnar Avastum wrote:All clients? Uhmm I find it hard to believe that someone enrolled given the discussion in this thread All of the heavyweight trolls hang out here, but this is by no means the main marketing stream. This is more of a place to connect with experienced market individuals and build my platform based on their feedback. I guess Amarr local is the buzzword buzzword buzzword. http://evelocal.com/p/Aerarium_Stabulum
http://evelocal.com/talk/206776721
Less words, more action please.
Marketing is a crucial part of success, especially in this day and age.
I'm doing what I can to raise capital and generate income for both me and my clients. Don't begrudge me for that. |

Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research Nornir Empire
477
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Posted - 2014.12.27 20:48:22 -
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You have to actually do something other than just marketing to be successful though, and I'm going to guess that like the last few times you've been here you're full of hot air.
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Aerarium Stabulum
Imperial Investments
1
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Posted - 2014.12.27 20:51:48 -
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Elizabeth Norn wrote:You have to actually do something other than just marketing to be successful though, and I'm going to guess that like the last few times you've been here you're full of hot air.
Last few times? This is the first bank I've opened.
But rest assured, we've got our top market guys working around the clock - exploiting oportunities as and when they find them. This is a two-tiered operation, and I am admittedly managing the launch of the corporation in these early stages.
Once we've got a steadily growing client base, I can take my feet off the accelerator and get back doing the market work that I love. But until then, there are clients to be found!
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Koniforous
Tauren Transit
182
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Posted - 2014.12.28 00:53:25 -
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Elizabeth Norn wrote:You have to actually do something other than just marketing to be successful though, and I'm going to guess that like the last few times you've been here you're full of hot air. likethelastfewtimes
TAUTX: Private Bank and Lending
TAUTX: Collateral Liquidation / Discount Items
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Makhpella
Temet Nosce Ex Astra
21
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Posted - 2014.12.28 14:38:31 -
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wow the guy is such a slow learner... |

Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
272
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Posted - 2014.12.31 11:36:47 -
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Quote:How do I setup an investments account? Firstly, fill in the form above. After you've filled in the form, you'll receive an in-game mail within 24-48 hours from an officer within the bank's corporation. Please note that we reserve the right to refuse registration to individuals with a dodgy history.
cute, naive, but cute. |

Makhpella
Temet Nosce Ex Astra
22
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Posted - 2014.12.31 19:19:27 -
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I feel like sometimes scammers believe their own bullshit. |

Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
685
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Posted - 2014.12.31 20:30:17 -
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Makhpella wrote:I feel like sometimes scammers believe their own bullshit. No man, that's like getting high on your own supply. |

virm pasuul
Mine 'N' Refine Yulai Federation
201
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Posted - 2015.01.02 15:44:02 -
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You know when you put up a website, that website needs DNS records to work. There's quite a few other related things that then go on.
I have absolutely no intention whatsoever of posting any of it but your scam website leaks you real life name, your real life address, your eve characters. The fact you've dabbled in a good few things and given up on all of them pretty quickly; your you tube channel, your twitter, your facebook etc......
If you want to scam and need a website, do it in isolation of everything else. Do not run other websites on the same IP address. Do not have those websites DNS leak your full real life contact details.
Fail. More effort needed.
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Aerarium Stabulum
Imperial Investments
1
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Posted - 2015.01.03 13:22:01 -
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virm pasuul wrote:You know when you put up a website, that website needs DNS records to work. There's quite a few other related things that then go on.
I have absolutely no intention whatsoever of posting any of it but your scam website leaks you real life name, your real life address, your eve characters. The fact you've dabbled in a good few things and given up on all of them pretty quickly; your you tube channel, your twitter, your facebook etc......
If you want to scam and need a website, do it in isolation of everything else. Do not run other websites on the same IP address. Do not have those websites DNS leak your full real life contact details.
Fail. More effort needed.
I don't what you're talking about.
There are no other websites hosted on this IP address and the WHOIS information is protected by a premium privacy service.
The bank doesn't tolerate scamming, but we also don't tolerate any form of e-stalking or creepiness. Please don't post here again. |
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