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TangleTop Lennelluc
SlingShotz
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Posted - 2014.12.25 03:55:22 -
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Happened a couple times, whilst mining, beat off a rat attack and the plan is to return after mining with something to do the loot salvage thing. Before that happens some rude person salvages my rat kills. He can't loot it, as the loot goes into a can, and quite frankly hi-sec rats don't drop that good a stuff. I just want to know: Will Concord get all bent out of shape if I sic a few Hammerheads on him? I targeted one and he turned blue in the Overview, but I didn't go any further as I really like my big old barge and would hate to lose it. |

Qapla Orion
Biohazard Systems Tracking and Recon Division
17
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Posted - 2014.12.25 04:00:43 -
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Too easy... Must resist.... |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
7764
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Posted - 2014.12.25 04:01:18 -
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Welcome to EVE
Gÿ+
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
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Xercodo
Vector Galactic Did he say Jump
3939
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Posted - 2014.12.25 04:24:51 -
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Yes, it was rude, but legal, and your attack is illegal.
The Drake is a Lie
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Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
2195
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Posted - 2014.12.25 04:29:54 -
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Sick some Hammerheads on 'em and see what happens.
A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
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Tear Jar
New Order Logistics CODE.
244
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Posted - 2014.12.25 04:37:36 -
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TangleTop Lennelluc wrote:Happened a couple times, whilst mining, beat off a rat attack and the plan is to return after mining with something to do the loot salvage thing. Before that happens some rude person salvages my rat kills. He can't loot it, as the loot goes into a can, and quite frankly hi-sec rats don't drop that good a stuff. I just want to know: Will Concord get all bent out of shape if I sic a few Hammerheads on him? I targeted one and he turned blue in the Overview, but I didn't go any further as I really like my big old barge and would hate to lose it.
He can steal from your wrecks. Doing so makes him suspect and allows you to attack him without Concord getting involved.
However if you attack him he can attack you back. |

LUMINOUS SPIRIT
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
670
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Posted - 2014.12.25 04:42:20 -
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TangleTop Lennelluc wrote:Happened a couple times, whilst mining, beat off a rat attack and the plan is to return after mining with something to do the loot salvage thing. Before that happens some rude person salvages my rat kills. He can't loot it, as the loot goes into a can, and quite frankly hi-sec rats don't drop that good a stuff. I just want to know: Will Concord get all bent out of shape if I sic a few Hammerheads on him? I targeted one and he turned blue in the Overview, but I didn't go any further as I really like my big old barge and would hate to lose it.
called baiting i believe.
he steals from you on purpose, you attack him, he attacks you back and his friends join in and repair him - repairing is legal. |

Evei Shard
Shard Industries
425
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Posted - 2014.12.25 04:49:43 -
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Seriously? You're going to get bent over a couple hundred thousand isk worth of salvage? If they aren't touching the cans, then don't worry about it. You're losing more isk just fretting over it.
And high-sec rats *can* drop nice stuff, it's just incredibly rare (because grr goons, etc.)
Profit favors the prepared
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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1563
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Posted - 2014.12.25 04:51:38 -
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You're upset over someone salvaging some crappy belt rats with crappy salvage?

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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
7929
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Posted - 2014.12.25 05:02:26 -
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You can shoot anyone flasshy yellow (they can shoot back though)
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
=]I[=
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Serene Repose
1874
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Posted - 2014.12.25 05:08:51 -
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Yah, sure. Any time. Day or night. No cover charge.
Treason never prospers. What is the reason?
Why, if it prospers, none dare call it "treason."
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1053
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Posted - 2014.12.25 05:20:52 -
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Ultimately it's not your stuff til you dock and unload it into your hangar. Up until that moment ownership of an item lies in a certain gray area. Someone can steal it from the wreck, which will cause them to go suspect. Someone can shoot you and take it from your wreck also, which will usually evoke a CONCORD response unless either you are suspect yourself or they have an active killright on you. As far as salvaging goes, there's nothing to stop another player from salvaging wrecks in space regardless of who shot the ship involved. This does not cause suspect or criminal flagging because they're basically cleaning up spacejunk.
Edit: And he can loot it out of a can, it just makes him go suspect. The more you know...
That thing you just poasted? Yeah, that. That's the reason Ezwal always looks unhappy.
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Snagletooth Johnson
Aliastra Gallente Federation
211
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Posted - 2014.12.25 05:48:13 -
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Next time OP cary an MTU and a salvage drone...or blue it up so I can get the loot, too.
Seriously, if you can't be bothered with an MTU/Salvage drone, then you really didn't want it anyway, so why cry? |

Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1053
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Posted - 2014.12.25 06:21:33 -
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MTU's are not a sure thing either. They can be nommed on with impunity by anyone who's willing to go suspect. If you do the AFK mining thing (which I strongly discourage) the odds are pretty good that the MTU will be a wreck by the time you return to keys. Bottom line is that if you truly want something you need to be johnny on the spot about making sure it becomes yours before someone else snags it for themselves.
That thing you just poasted? Yeah, that. That's the reason Ezwal always looks unhappy.
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Siegfried Tahl
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
138
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Posted - 2014.12.25 08:44:11 -
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Wouldnt be hooked on the game just as much if at some point ninja salvaging wasnt a profession.
Improved Preview Tool for Ships, Stations, Gates etc.
Two Rogue Drone Mothers
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory.
1492
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Posted - 2014.12.25 08:57:36 -
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it is not yours unless you take it.
TunDraGon is recruiting!
"Also, your boobs [:o] " -á
CCP Eterne, 2012
"When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
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Priest
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2014.12.25 09:03:28 -
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I have been seeking faction commander rat wrecks that miners leave on highsec belt while killing some on my own. It's decent isk for a newbie actually. |

Sol Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
897
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Posted - 2014.12.25 09:27:48 -
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Just because i mentioned them doesnt mean we need trolls doing retro threads. |

Yarda Black
Militaris Industries Northern Coalition.
495
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Posted - 2014.12.25 09:28:36 -
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I'll bite. I shouldn't, but:
Salvaging does not warrant a suspect-status. Looting does.
If you're not willing to fight, putting drones on him is a bad idea anyway.
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Sol Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
897
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Posted - 2014.12.25 09:31:16 -
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You people are a shame.
You fall for everything. |

Elena Ranning
008Bezirk322sschornsteinfeg432ermeiste0191r
50
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Posted - 2014.12.25 09:33:37 -
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yes he will flip you to start a fight with you but dont show weakness or ask for advise on forums it is very poisonous culture here they will laugh at u and make fun of you, maybe try being more scientific and less emotional dont show tears cuz tearz make trollz appear here and try: 1. to be funny 2.to sound smart 3.to sound very wise, all at your costing. Everybody is smarter than everybody in eve. That's how all the posts are.
you can use a bait mining ship for fun, fit guns and warp scrams instead of mining lasers and wait for someone to flip ur can. dont forget to pendraise ur ship (T2, T3, and Barge) and remember: contracts is not the only market for ships. |

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory.
1492
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Posted - 2014.12.25 09:54:56 -
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Sol Project wrote:You people are a shame.
You fall for everything.
What can I say...it-¦s Christmas
TunDraGon is recruiting!
"Also, your boobs [:o] " -á
CCP Eterne, 2012
"When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
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Varathius
Blood Fountain Massacre LOADED-DICE
138
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Posted - 2014.12.25 09:56:04 -
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TangleTop Lennelluc wrote:Happened a couple times, whilst mining, beat off a rat attack and the plan is to return after mining with something to do the loot salvage thing. Before that happens some rude person salvages my rat kills. He can't loot it, as the loot goes into a can, and quite frankly hi-sec rats don't drop that good a stuff. I just want to know: Will Concord get all bent out of shape if I sic a few Hammerheads on him? I targeted one and he turned blue in the Overview, but I didn't go any further as I really like my big old barge and would hate to lose it.
Hey man, newbros gota make their isk too.... |

Badel Jramodarr
New Eden Miners Millitia
201
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Posted - 2014.12.25 11:37:35 -
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Sol Project wrote:You people are a shame.
You fall for everything. I fall for gravity all the time
I don't always have a signature; but when I do, it doesn't say anything at all
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1060
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Posted - 2014.12.25 13:31:26 -
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Gravity is a myth the eart... oh wait. Never mind. Down with gravity!
That thing you just poasted? Yeah, that. That's the reason Ezwal always looks unhappy.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10949
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Posted - 2014.12.25 13:35:27 -
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TangleTop Lennelluc wrote:beat off a rat
This is the best I could do. I know it's a ground squirrel, but still.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
5173
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Posted - 2014.12.25 13:37:33 -
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Sol Project wrote:You people are a shame.
You fall for everything.
My thought.
Only Sol and Doc didn't take the bait
Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded
Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
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Winter Archipelago
Furtherance.
316
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Posted - 2014.12.25 14:12:27 -
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Eugene Kerner wrote:it is not yours unless you take it. It's not yours unless you can defend it. You can take something with a fair bit of ease, but unless you can stop someone else from taking it from you, then it isn't really yours.
Ransoms are accepted in Isk, Mods, Ships, and Dolls.
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Karl Jerr
Herzack Unit
75
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Posted - 2014.12.25 15:26:38 -
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So rude for a rat, less crude for a cat, wardec it and have fun, stop the whine or run, So is Eve |

Magnasis Drakkenwolf
12
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Posted - 2014.12.26 03:25:25 -
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It doesn't hurt to try something at least once in EVE, sick some Hammerheads on him and see what happens :)
There can be only one..
http://www.youtube.com/user/KensCrazyGaming
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Kiryen O'Bannon
Silver Guardians Fidelas Constans
174
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Posted - 2014.12.26 04:12:55 -
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Before you do so, however, think about why you consider it a good idea to start a fight with someone when you are in a ship clearly not designed for fighting. |

Dena Esil
Shamrock and Company
5
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Posted - 2014.12.26 06:16:07 -
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TangleTop Lennelluc wrote:Happened a couple times, whilst mining, beat off a rat attack and the plan is to return after mining with something to do the loot salvage thing. Before that happens some rude person salvages my rat kills. He can't loot it, as the loot goes into a can, and quite frankly hi-sec rats don't drop that good a stuff. I just want to know: Will Concord get all bent out of shape if I sic a few Hammerheads on him? I targeted one and he turned blue in the Overview, but I didn't go any further as I really like my big old barge and would hate to lose it.
You shoot a guy dead in the street and somebody else takes his shoes. Welcome to Detroit, erm, I mean Eve |

TangleTop Lennelluc
SlingShotz
9
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Posted - 2014.12.26 17:17:23 -
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There is a difference between the word troll and trolling. Apparently, with but a few exceptions, and so inadvertently, I was trolling for trolls. At this moment I cannot possibly imagine a need for me to ever post in these forums again. Insert imaginative expletive here: |

Paranoid Loyd
3281
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Posted - 2014.12.26 17:20:28 -
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Way to go guys, now you've hurt his feelings. 
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
8029
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Posted - 2014.12.26 18:24:32 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Way to go guys, now you've hurt his feelings.  Left home without his suitcase...never forget your suitcase.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
=]I[=
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Sol Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
1162
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Posted - 2014.12.26 19:45:17 -
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TangleTop Lennelluc wrote:There is a difference between the word troll and trolling. Apparently, with but a few exceptions, and so inadvertently, I was trolling for trolls. At this moment I cannot possibly imagine a need for me to ever post in these forums again. WE DID IT !!!!! \o/
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Idred Husanak
Gripplechew's Greenhouse
0
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Posted - 2014.12.27 10:56:31 -
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Do something more fun then mining and beating on the poor rats.
Get a fast frigate with the CPU for a combat scanner and some salvage gear... and jump in on cruisers and larger running level 3-4 missions. If your lucky they perhaps have even used a mobile tractor to make your life easier. lol
Don't loot there cans man that's illegal and just not right.
If they won't shoot at you (so the concord will earn the taxes you pay at the local stations)... goad them into it.
Something like " X you have been engaging the local "insert rat type" in violation of a non aggression pact signed by "insert systems name"... as a legally contracted waste disposal corp for "insert systems name", Recycling operations are underway. Don't interfere and transmit your intentions to safeguard our non aggression pacts in the future and We will jettison 10% of the locally recycled materials as recompense"
That alone may get them to shoot at you in which case be ready to zoom off and come back to continue the now much more profitable salvage in the area.
Or fly up there nose and jettison the 10%... and forget to abandon there cut. Then you can of course tickle them a bit and run off.
You can't really be interesting in AFK mining now that someone has shown you there is a more entertaining way to spend your time in eve. lol |

J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
5203
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Posted - 2014.12.27 11:02:46 -
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Wait.
OP comes to GD to complain about something that is working as intended (salvage has always been free for all) and expected us to feel sorry for him.
And then gets angry when we don't.
Aaaaaah, how cute...
Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded
Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
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Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
194
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Posted - 2014.12.27 11:26:31 -
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No salvage from regular rats in belt is worth it, not even for a newer player. Only the loot of a faction frigate is worth it. |

Elena Ranning
008Bezirk322sschornsteinfeg432ermeiste0191r
53
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Posted - 2015.03.18 13:21:41 -
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Elena Ranning wrote:yes he will flip you to start a fight with you but dont show weakness or ask for advise on forums it is very poisonous culture here they will laugh at u and make fun of you, maybe try being more scientific and less emotional dont show tears cuz tearz make trollz appear here and try: 1. to be funny 2.to sound smart 3.to sound very wise, all at your costing. Everybody is smarter than everybody in eve. That's how all the posts are.
you can use a bait mining ship for fun, fit guns and warp scrams instead of mining lasers and wait for someone to flip ur can. dont forget to pendraise ur ship (T2, T3, and Barge) and remember: contracts is not the only market for ships.
This. |

Soldarius
Kosher Nostra The 99 Percent
1179
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Posted - 2015.03.18 13:36:18 -
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The necro is real.
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
1177
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Posted - 2015.03.18 13:42:57 -
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So....three months later, just had to confirm that they still believe their own post I guess?
Don't get lost alone - Join Signal Cartel, New Eden's premier haven for explorers!
Onward to Thera with Eve Scout
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Lfod Shi
Lfod's Ratting and Salvage
231
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Posted - 2015.03.18 14:14:00 -
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One word: Salvage Drones
GÖ¬ They'll always be bloodclaws to me GÖ½
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Khan Wrenth
Hedion University Amarr Empire
119
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Posted - 2015.03.18 14:52:32 -
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Evei Shard wrote:Seriously? You're going to get bent over a couple hundred thousand isk worth of salvage? If they aren't touching the cans, then don't worry about it. You're losing more isk just fretting over it.
Everyone knows that if cans touch, it's officially gay.
HTFU.-á Adapt or die.-á Beware the falcon punch.
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Iain Cariaba
1163
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Posted - 2015.03.18 17:11:24 -
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Elena Ranning wrote:Elena Ranning wrote:yes he will flip you to start a fight with you but dont show weakness or ask for advise on forums it is very poisonous culture here they will laugh at u and make fun of you, maybe try being more scientific and less emotional dont show tears cuz tearz make trollz appear here and try: 1. to be funny 2.to sound smart 3.to sound very wise, all at your costing. Everybody is smarter than everybody in eve. That's how all the posts are.
you can use a bait mining ship for fun, fit guns and warp scrams instead of mining lasers and wait for someone to flip ur can. dont forget to pendraise ur ship (T2, T3, and Barge) and remember: contracts is not the only market for ships. This thread should have remained burried in the far back of the forum graveyard. Fixed that for you.
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
I couldn't have said it better.
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Serene Repose
2419
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Posted - 2015.03.18 20:56:41 -
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Could we just kill the rat that resurrected this thread and leave it at that? 
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to type on your keyboard and remove all doubt.
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2015.03.19 00:50:01 -
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Quote:13. Spamming is prohibited.
Spam is defined as the repetitive posting of the same topic or nonsensical post that has no substance and is often designed to annoy other forum users. This can include the words GÇ£firstGÇ¥, GÇ£go back to insert other game nameGÇ¥ and other such posts that contribute no value to forum discussion. Spamming also includes the posting of ASCII art within a forum post, or the practice of GÇ£thread necromancyGÇ¥ which involved bumping of old threads for no justifiable reason.
Please leave necromancy in games that actually contain necromancy; i.e: Skyrim. Thank you.
Closed.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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