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Farlin Dark Star Combine	Posted - 2006.09.13 03:49:00 - [1] Good day everyone! I have been tasked by our CEO to gather information regarding alliances. Since I know little about the inner workings of alliances or PvP in general, I would appreciate any pointers, tips, or other constructive information you might be able to provide. Our corporation is primarily focused on manufacturing, mining, and missions with a desire to move into low sec space provided we can find the right group with which to fly. This is not a recruitment request of anykind, more of an information gathering to better educate myself as I know precious little about alliances. At least for me, I would rather go into this whole process knowing what to look / not look for than to have it bite us in the arse. :) Thanks in advance and for your time! Very Respectfully, Farlin -- Farlin
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.13 05:28:00 - [2] BoB will kill you no matter what. ASCN will kill you if Cyvok isn't getting any. Axiom will kill you if ASCN is killing you. LV will kill you if you are Russian. MC will kill you if someone pays us. Goons will kill you if they are bored. AAA will kill you if you are within range. ISS will kill you if you are an evil pirate. -V- will kill you if Light Darkness needs to spend money on ammo as a tax write off. Imperium will kill you if you touch the Dark Lord's veldspar. CVA will kill you if you are a Minnie. UK will kill you if you are an Amarrian. Hmmm... That's a good start. - Remember Shaelin
Rainbow Jesus Grief Tactics Amalgamated	Posted - 2006.09.13 06:21:00 - [3] This is an official warning. FUSED Will not allow you and your petty corp to operate in our space. For reasons of security however, you will NOT be given the location of this space. So you had best watch your back.... We always approach from the rear tbh.
Hardin Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.13 06:59:00 - [4] Edited by: Hardin on 13/09/2006 06:59:34 Originally by: Seleene CVA will kill you if you are a Minnie. UK will kill you if you are an Amarrian. Correction: CVA will kill you if you are a terrorist Minnie or an ebil pirate . UK will kill you if you are an innocent peace loving Amarrian - particularly if you are a woman or a child. They do this to ensure that the CVA can keep its numbers up recruiting a good supply of grieving relatives out for revenge ------------------------------
LiquidSteele Dragons Of Redemption Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.09.13 07:08:00 - [5] Edited by: LiquidSteele on 13/09/2006 07:08:43 Is good for us that LD has to write a hell of a lot off this year. LD's accountent 4tw! LiquidSteele DORM-Director
Zhaine B e l l u m	Posted - 2006.09.13 14:21:00 - [6] Originally by: Seleene BoB will kill you no matter what. ASCN will kill you if Cyvok isn't getting any. Axiom will kill you if ASCN is killing you. LV will kill you if you are Russian. MC will kill you if someone pays us. Goons will kill you if they are bored. AAA will kill you if you are within range. ISS will kill you if you are an evil pirate. -V- will kill you if Light Darkness needs to spend money on ammo as a tax write off. Imperium will kill you if you touch the Dark Lord's veldspar. CVA will kill you if you are a Minnie. UK will kill you if you are an Amarrian. Hmmm... That's a good start. Hahaha excellent. Aaaaaanyways to the OP, if you want to get a more serious response you might want to ask some more specific question, so we know what sort of info you're after. In general though Seleene's post is actually pretty accurate: If you're in alliance territory (most of 0.0) without contacting them first then they'll shoot you. If you contact them first some may give you positive standing so they don't shoot (you'll have to pay), but then you'll probably be shot by someone else who is there just to shoot stuff. That said it's not too hard for an individual or small group to do carebearing operations in alliance territory if you know what you're doing and can afford the odd shiploss; it's just a case of trial, error and research. In terms of low sec (that is, 0.1-0.4) it's largely ignored by alliances, but probably more densely populated, by a whole mixture of pirates, carebears and just plain wierdos. Have fun! - - - - - - - - - - Quote: I don't even want a ship, ships are for carebears. Give me a fish bowl for my head (to keep space out) and smear me with lard, then armed with a toasting fork-
Farlin Dark Star Combine	Posted - 2006.09.14 01:19:00 - [7] Originally by: Zhaine Hahaha excellent. Aaaaaanyways to the OP, if you want to get a more serious response you might want to ask some more specific question, so we know what sort of info you're after. In general though Seleene's post is actually pretty accurate: If you're in alliance territory (most of 0.0) without contacting them first then they'll shoot you. If you contact them first some may give you positive standing so they don't shoot (you'll have to pay), but then you'll probably be shot by someone else who is there just to shoot stuff. That said it's not too hard for an individual or small group to do carebearing operations in alliance territory if you know what you're doing and can afford the odd shiploss; it's just a case of trial, error and research. In terms of low sec (that is, 0.1-0.4) it's largely ignored by alliances, but probably more densely populated, by a whole mixture of pirates, carebears and just plain wierdos. Have fun! Seleene, Thanks for the break down of...well who will basically kill who. :) Good to know what enemies one will make. Zhaine, Thanks for the general layout. It would seem that the general consensus regarding alliances is all in who you know. From what I can ascertain from the posts here is that unless the alliance knows who you are, your an enemy. So are there any specific suggestions on where to start in regards to making contact with a prospective alliance or is it as you stated by getting into a "carebearing" operation through trial and error? Do alliances generally have a controlling authority that "recruits" corporations? Our corporation is really interested in industry type activities, specifically mining operations (e.g. access to zydrine and megacyte) and we understand the risks of low sec space. I fully understand that many alliances will simply shrug us off as I am asking questions about where to go, etc. But I would gather that everyone has started somewhere. :) Thanks again for the information, it is truly appreciated. -- Farlin
travelingsales Ars Caelestis Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.09.14 05:19:00 - [8] Originally by: Farlin From what I can ascertain from the posts here is that unless the alliance knows who you are, your an enemy. This is mostly true. Not all alliances shoot neutrals in their space, but the vast majority do, so it's safest to just assume they'll be shooting unless you have a good reason to think otherwise. Quote: So are there any specific suggestions on where to start in regards to making contact with a prospective alliance or is it as you stated by getting into a "carebearing" operation through trial and error? Do alliances generally have a controlling authority that "recruits" corporations? Most alliances have their own forums with a public section where you can contact them and ask if you can join. I have no idea how big your corp is, but if you are looking to permanently join an alliance and do not have 50-100 members you will most likely be asked to break up your corp and have your players join one of the corps already in the alliance (this is if they accept you at all). Most 0.0 entities will also expect you to help out with defense of the area even if you are not a PVP focused corp. Quote: Our corporation is really interested in industry type activities, specifically mining operations (e.g. access to zydrine and megacyte) and we understand the risks of low sec space. I fully understand that many alliances will simply shrug us off as I am asking questions about where to go, etc. But I would gather that everyone has started somewhere. :) It sounds like what you are really looking for is some kind of mining pass for 0.0 access without actually joining a 0.0 alliance. I have heard that some alliances offer these but I have no idea how you would go about getting one. My advice would be to start poking around alliance public forums (googling alliance names is a decent way to find them) and see what info you can find there. You can also try eve-mailing alliance leaders in game, but most of them get a LOT of eve-mail and may not pay much attention to you. The other option is to just go to 0.0 and have at it without any kind of official approval. This is a more viable option than you would think, as most of 0.0 is not particularly well patrolled and 3-4 guys mining in an out of the way system is not likely to attract much attention. If you want to go this route I would go to an NPC region so you'll have a place to dock, and scout the area extensively first (Curse, Stain, and Syndicate are all NPC regions, there are some others too but I don't remember them off the top of my head). If NPC regions are not your thing you could also talk to ISS, they have a few stations around here and there where you can dock for a fee. Good luck and keep at it, I think you will find empire rather stifling once you get used to 0.0
Kelgen Thann SUBLIME L.L.C. Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2006.09.14 05:25:00 - [9] Quote: So are there any specific suggestions on where to start in regards to making contact with a prospective alliance Generally you contact people in the alliance and they foward you on to their diplomats, or alliance heads. Alternatively you can join an existing corp and meld into one, or merge with one. To join an allince usually entails proving you should become a trial member, and then move to a full member. It can be though but worth it if you pick the alliance that best suits your corps style and play methods.
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.14 05:39:00 - [10] Originally by: Zhaine In general though Seleene's post is actually pretty accurate. Kind of scary that things are really that simple, huh? - Help update the EVE History Wiki!

Gunsnroses Hmmzor. Muffins of Mayhem	Posted - 2006.09.14 19:20:00 - [11] We will kill you if you perfer bagels.
Lomong Minmatar Void Spiders Fate Weavers	Posted - 2006.09.14 19:28:00 - [12] Originally by: Hardin Correction: CVA will kill you if you are a terrorist Minnie or an ebil pirate . UK will kill you if you are an innocent peace loving Amarrian - particularly if you are a woman or a child. They do this to ensure that the CVA can keep its numbers up recruiting a good supply of grieving relatives out for revenge That's not what a little bird told me. The little bird told me that it's the only way to get you out of the Veldspar belt that Seelene is mining in.
Tar Kovsky Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.09.14 19:56:00 - [13] Originally by: Hardin UK will kill you if you are an innocent peace loving Amarrian - particularly if you are a woman or a child. YARR!
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.14 23:01:00 - [14] Originally by: Tar Kovsky Originally by: Hardin UK will kill you if you are an innocent peace loving Amarrian - particularly if you are a woman or a child. YARR! Damn criminals. As a caldari loyalyst our Amarrian allies will wipe u all out "There is no such thing as innocence , only different degrees of guilt"
Farlin Dark Star Combine	Posted - 2006.09.15 02:23:00 - [15] Thank you all for the very useful information!! Looks like we have our work cut out for us, but at least we have somewhere to start. Again, I appreciate all the inputs as this information, at least to me, is priceless. I will do as suggested and begin the process by learning about each of the alliances and potentially making contact with those that might be a "fit". We understand that it might be necessary to help defend space, etc and I am fairly certain there would be many who would be more than willing. I am sure more questions will come up as time goes on and I will try to post them here as you have all been very helpful. Again, thank you and best of luck out there! mmmm...muffins -- Farlin
God's Army Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2006.09.15 12:20:00 - [16] Originally by: Seleene Imperium will kill you if you touch the Dark Lord's veldspar. lol ---- Night Stalker... Owned?
Kaleeb Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.09.15 12:27:00 - [17] Farlin sorry if i misunderstood but are u looking for an alliance to join? I know a brand new 1 that just started off, they are newish players to the game and nice people. Contact me ingame if thats something u might be interested in. Originally by: Blacklight Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
Burlock Ironfist Celtic Anarchy Black Reign Syndicate	Posted - 2006.09.15 13:02:00 - [18] Originally by: Seleene BoB will kill you no matter what. ASCN will kill you if Cyvok isn't getting any. Axiom will kill you if ASCN is killing you. LV will kill you if you are Russian. MC will kill you if someone pays us. Goons will kill you if they are bored. AAA will kill you if you are within range. ISS will kill you if you are an evil pirate. -V- will kill you if Light Darkness needs to spend money on ammo as a tax write off. Imperium will kill you if you touch the Dark Lord's veldspar. CVA will kill you if you are a Minnie. UK will kill you if you are an Amarrian. Hmmm... That's a good start. Black Reign Syndicate will kill you unless you sing "its raining men" by the weather girls on our TS. BOOBIES!
Michuh Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.15 15:45:00 - [19] Originally by: Tar Kovsky Originally by: Hardin UK will kill you if you are an innocent peace loving Amarrian - particularly if you are a woman or a child. YARR! Damn griefer! ;) Maelstrom Recruitment


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