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Domino Vyse
Icendus Corux
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Posted - 2014.12.31 13:08:49 -
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How about adding some sort of small structure that a neutral can bash inside FW plexes, that will close the plex? Or even a hacking mini game similar to data sites that would do the same thing?
It would be a small nerf to farmers that refuse to defend plexes, without removing cloaks/stabs which is also being called for by some.
I am not a game dev so I'm not going to try going into detail, but I think its an idea that should at least be considered.
There will obviously be balance issues. The structure in question could only become 'vulnerable' when the plex is 50% done. If a hacking minigame was added, the difficulty could be affected by the system contested %. If closing the plex is too much, then perhaps hacking the plex could add a certain amount of time.
Why should neutrals be allowed to have any affect on fw? Because a large amount of the fights that take place in fw involve neutrals.
Domino. |
Gawain Edmond
Angry Mustellid The Periphery
163
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Posted - 2014.12.31 13:45:29 -
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no this is a terrible idea and would just stop the loosing side ever being able to take systems back as alts would just close down plexs so no one could run them |
Domino Vyse
Icendus Corux
75
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Posted - 2014.12.31 13:52:51 -
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Gawain Edmond wrote:no this is a terrible idea and would just stop the loosing side ever being able to take systems back as alts would just close down plexs so no one could run them
Read the bit about balance and 'vulnerable when the plex is 50% done' again |
Gawain Edmond
Angry Mustellid The Periphery
163
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Posted - 2014.12.31 13:55:08 -
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so it'll be timed down half way and then closed by an alt like i said it'll just stop the losing side ever getting systems back |
Domino Vyse
Icendus Corux
75
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Posted - 2014.12.31 13:57:13 -
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Gawain Edmond wrote:so it'll be timed down half way and then closed by an alt like i said it'll just stop the losing side ever getting systems back
So if a plex that gets closed in this way was to respawn again, we'd be good right? |
Gawain Edmond
Angry Mustellid The Periphery
163
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Posted - 2014.12.31 14:02:27 -
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no because then if you're defending a system you can't time the plex down to the last 30 seconds and then leave it to slow the enemy down |
Domino Vyse
Icendus Corux
75
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Posted - 2014.12.31 14:06:57 -
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Gawain Edmond wrote:no because then if you're defending a system you can't time the plex down to the last 30 seconds and then leave it to slow the enemy down
Do you have a fw farming alt I wonder? |
Gawain Edmond
Angry Mustellid The Periphery
163
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Posted - 2014.12.31 14:12:50 -
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no but i used to be in fw |
Ersahi Kir
Froosh INC. SpaceMonkey's Alliance
402
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Posted - 2014.12.31 16:00:16 -
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Domino Vyse wrote:Why should neutrals be allowed to have any affect on fw? Because a large amount of the fights that take place in fw involve neutrals.
Domino.
If you want to have an effect on FW join FW. Otherwise you're just running around looking for killmails and are otherwise unimportant to the event. |
Brink Albosa
Screaming Hayabusa Neo-Bushido Movement
71
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Posted - 2014.12.31 16:21:39 -
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FW should just be removed entirely from the game. Let the real warriors decide who owns what in lowsec.
+1 to Domino's idea. It's a happy medium. |
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per
Terpene Conglomerate
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Posted - 2014.12.31 16:29:12 -
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Domino Vyse wrote:How about adding some sort of small structure that a neutral can bash inside FW plexes, that will close the plex? Or even a hacking mini game similar to data sites that would do the same thing?
Why should neutrals be allowed to have any affect on fw? Because a large amount of the fights that take place in fw involve neutrals.
Domino.
how about this: every neutral that enters fw plex gets suspect flag immediately?
Brink Albosa wrote:FW should just be removed entirely from the game. Let the real warriors decide who owns what in lowsec.
+1 to Domino's idea. It's a happy medium.
you can move to lowsec not involved in fw, good luck having 90% less fights |
Brink Albosa
Screaming Hayabusa Neo-Bushido Movement
71
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Posted - 2014.12.31 16:35:24 -
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per wrote:Domino Vyse wrote:How about adding some sort of small structure that a neutral can bash inside FW plexes, that will close the plex? Or even a hacking mini game similar to data sites that would do the same thing?
Why should neutrals be allowed to have any affect on fw? Because a large amount of the fights that take place in fw involve neutrals.
Domino. how about this: every neutral that enters fw plex gets suspect flag immediately? Brink Albosa wrote:FW should just be removed entirely from the game. Let the real warriors decide who owns what in lowsec.
+1 to Domino's idea. It's a happy medium. you can move to lowsec not involved in fw, good luck having 90% less fights
You're right. Less fights with fw bears and farmers. |
Domino Vyse
Icendus Corux
78
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Posted - 2014.12.31 16:42:02 -
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per wrote:Domino Vyse wrote:How about adding some sort of small structure that a neutral can bash inside FW plexes, that will close the plex? Or even a hacking mini game similar to data sites that would do the same thing?
Why should neutrals be allowed to have any affect on fw? Because a large amount of the fights that take place in fw involve neutrals.
Domino. how about this: every neutral that enters fw plex gets suspect flag immediately? Brink Albosa wrote:FW should just be removed entirely from the game. Let the real warriors decide who owns what in lowsec.
+1 to Domino's idea. It's a happy medium. you can move to lowsec not involved in fw, good luck having 90% less fights
Your reply just proves your complete ignorance and lack of knowledge on the topic.
Unfortunately I now have to ignore everything you have to say. |
Miss Spanky Spank
Tabby Cat Fan Club
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Posted - 2014.12.31 17:03:04 -
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I LOVE this idea! Anyone who wants to *attempt* to argue any of OP's idea is a fruitcake! |
afkalt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
622
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Posted - 2014.12.31 17:06:32 -
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Why should you be able to screw with FW without being in FW? |
Mag's
the united
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Posted - 2014.12.31 17:09:40 -
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Domino Vyse wrote:Why should neutrals be allowed to have any affect on fw? Because a large amount of the fights that take place in fw involve neutrals.
Domino. Because it is a sandbox. This means even those in FW, get affected by those who are not.
Welcome to Eve.
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Miss Spanky Spank
Tabby Cat Fan Club
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Posted - 2014.12.31 17:19:08 -
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afkalt wrote:Why should you be able to screw with FW without being in FW?
You want all the content of FW without the drawbacks of a permadec? Sling yer 'ook!!
Show me where the bad person touched you. |
Swiftstrike1
Swiftstrike Incorporated
857
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Posted - 2014.12.31 17:23:57 -
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Neutrals should just be happy that FW Plexes provide fights and get on with it.
Targeting, Sensors and ECM Overhaul
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Domino Vyse
Icendus Corux
79
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Posted - 2014.12.31 17:31:14 -
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I would love to join FW, but unfortunately the people in FW get on my ****.
It is a good idea and anyone that thinks otherwise is wrong. |
Gawain Edmond
Angry Mustellid The Periphery
163
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Posted - 2014.12.31 17:46:31 -
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Domino i'd love to agree with you but your idea is terrible the fact that you're unable to understand this makes me sad. |
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Miss Spanky Spank
Tabby Cat Fan Club
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Posted - 2014.12.31 17:50:50 -
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Gawain Edmond wrote:Domino i'd love to agree with you but your idea is terrible the fact that you're unable to understand this makes me sad.
The fact that you're unable to keep an open mind makes me sad. |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
2983
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Posted - 2014.12.31 17:59:51 -
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Laughably terrible idea!
If you want to play the FW mini-sov game , join a faction ffs.
If you want fights, just undock in Black Rise, we're waiting for you.
Make space glamorous!
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Sard Caid
Screaming Hayabusa Neo-Bushido Movement
109
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Posted - 2014.12.31 19:26:30 -
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As a FW combatant, I would love the ability to punish other players for ceding a plex to me, regardless if I'm in a militia. I small LP reward as a thank you from the opposing faction of the pilot forced off would be neat.
I'm also of the opinion that game play revolving around idling on a beacon for 10-20 minutes is thoroughly mind numbing and should be addressed. Separate, though related game play issue. |
Domino Vyse
Icendus Corux
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Posted - 2014.12.31 19:56:15 -
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Sard Caid wrote:As a FW combatant, I would love the ability to punish other players for ceding a plex to me, regardless if I'm in a militia. I small LP reward as a thank you from the opposing faction of the pilot forced off would be neat.
I'm also of the opinion that game play revolving around idling on a beacon for 10-20 minutes is thoroughly mind numbing and should be addressed. Separate, though related game play issue.
Finally, a sensible response from someone who gets respect as a pvper. |
Domino Vyse
Icendus Corux
82
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Posted - 2014.12.31 19:59:18 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Laughably terrible idea!
If you want to play the FW mini-sov game , join a faction ffs.
If you want fights, just undock in Black Rise, we're waiting for you.
I am proposing a way of punishing LP farmers.
I know how to find fights cheers. |
Catherine Laartii
Dominion Fleet Group Templis CALSF
452
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Posted - 2014.12.31 20:42:29 -
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Domino Vyse wrote:Gawain Edmond wrote:no this is a terrible idea and would just stop the loosing side ever being able to take systems back as alts would just close down plexs so no one could run them Read the bit about balance and 'vulnerable when the plex is 50% done' again Apparently you have absolutely no clue how FW plexes work, so let me enlighten you:
Since fw complexes, whether they are defended by the side that owns the system or run down by the opposing militia, NEED to have a person from one of the militias capping them to affect the contested level of the system in question. Some fanciful BS about neutrals coming in and somehow thinking they're entitled to affect FW in any way other than being target practice or pirates is so hilariously wrong I got a fatal hernia from laughing so hard I woke up in a new clone.
Thank God I don't have to update them any more.
You want to affect FW without joining it? Sharpen your solo or small gang pvp skills and go shoot some folks. You want to actually take part in a game mechanic you have to literally enlist to participate in by doing something that amounts to nothing more than being a prankster or a troll? I would like you to either pass what you're smoking, or ask how running distribution missions in hisec can directly affect the wormhole community, since that is literally how far removed from space-based virtual reality you are. |
Domino Vyse
Icendus Corux
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Posted - 2014.12.31 20:58:07 -
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Catherine Laartii wrote:Domino Vyse wrote:Gawain Edmond wrote:no this is a terrible idea and would just stop the loosing side ever being able to take systems back as alts would just close down plexs so no one could run them Read the bit about balance and 'vulnerable when the plex is 50% done' again Apparently you have absolutely no clue how FW plexes work, so let me enlighten you: Since fw complexes, whether they are defended by the side that owns the system or run down by the opposing militia, NEED to have a person from one of the militias capping them to affect the contested level of the system in question. This can either help the defending side keep their system, or the opposing side push it into vulnerable once enough plexes have been run, and potentially flip the system after bashing the infrastructure hub. Some fanciful BS about neutrals coming in and somehow thinking they're entitled to affect FW in any way other than being target practice or pirates is so hilariously wrong I got a fatal hernia from laughing so hard I woke up in a new clone. Thank God I don't have to update them any more. You want to affect FW without joining it? Sharpen your solo or small gang pvp skills and go shoot some folks. You want to actually take part in a game mechanic you have to literally enlist to participate in by doing something that amounts to nothing more than being a prankster or a troll? I would like you to either pass what you're smoking, or ask how running distribution missions in hisec can directly affect the wormhole community, since that is literally how far removed from space-based virtual reality you are. Whilst cute and witty responses are welcomed, I will ignore yours, based on the fact that you had to exaggerate my point and make it look idiotic, to make yourself look clever and knowledgable. |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
2986
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Posted - 2014.12.31 21:14:01 -
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Domino Vyse wrote:Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Laughably terrible idea!
If you want to play the FW mini-sov game , join a faction ffs.
If you want fights, just undock in Black Rise, we're waiting for you. I am proposing a way of punishing LP farmers. I know how to find fights cheers. Ok, so you're not in FW but you want to 'punish' farmers because...?
Make space glamorous!
Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
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Mag's
the united
18437
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Posted - 2014.12.31 21:21:33 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Domino Vyse wrote:Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Laughably terrible idea!
If you want to play the FW mini-sov game , join a faction ffs.
If you want fights, just undock in Black Rise, we're waiting for you. I am proposing a way of punishing LP farmers. I know how to find fights cheers. Ok, so you're not in FW but you want to 'punish' farmers because...? Why look to sort things out yourself in game, when you can run to the forums and whine?
**Destination SkillQueue:- **
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Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance
198
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Posted - 2014.12.31 21:22:23 -
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One would think the current mechanic allowing them to be captured was enough to close them.
If a neutral wants to play FW, then they should join FW.
Domino Vyse wrote:
I am proposing a way of punishing LP farmers.
With a method that will be horridly abused without effecting LP farmers. You want to effect LP Farmers: go into the plex and shoot them. Or Shoot them outside the plex. Your choice, but the options already exist without creating a system ripe for abuse. |
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