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KIAEddZ
Caldari
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.20 08:02:00 -
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Debasing the work of Mercs in the hope the employers will let them go is as old as the Merc profession has existed in Eve.
We both know that whenever KIA enter local, you guys run n hide, the kills we are getting are simply by surprising you or baiting and trapping you.
Our killboard shows clear activity every night for the last 4 days, we spend hours looking for your pilots, we goto y9g and you all run of at 8km/s....nice
You COW guys talk a good war, but thats about it. We had a 15 man Vaga/Ceptor fleet in y9g last night for over 30 minutes, awaiting the 23 local hostiles to engage...... as usual you waited for us to leave b4 you came crowing.
The end of the campaign will show clearly what happened, and as long as employer is giving us love, and you guys are coming crying to the forums, we are as happy as pigs in sht :)
ps (Campaign stats are 44 Kills 5 Losses... Losses are 3 Interceptors and 1 Battleship and 1 pod)
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Burlock Ironfist
Celtic Anarchy
Black Reign Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.20 08:59:00 -
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I havin too much fun killing goonies to even notice what KIA are doing.
i thought Y9G was going to be the next goonie hub? needed to borrow some sugar and had to go all the way to S-U again to even find any goonies.
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KIAEddZ
Caldari
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.20 09:01:00 -
[183]
Tick Tock ;)
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.20 09:57:00 -
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How does creative killboarding actually work?
Because i really think you should consider employer losses or remove kills where goons are in majority :)
Otherwise, your enemys are winning 
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hantwo
S.A.S
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Posted - 2006.09.20 10:12:00 -
[185]
 Originally by: KIAEddZ
You COW guys talk a good war, but thats about it. We had a 15 man Vaga/Ceptor fleet in y9g last night for over 30 minutes, awaiting the 23 local hostiles to engage...... as usual you waited for us to leave b4 you came crowing.
and of those 23 how many were active? you don't know so flaming them for it is pretty damn stupid.
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KIAEddZ
Caldari
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.20 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: hantwo
Originally by: KIAEddZ
You COW guys talk a good war, but thats about it. We had a 15 man Vaga/Ceptor fleet in y9g last night for over 30 minutes, awaiting the 23 local hostiles to engage...... as usual you waited for us to leave b4 you came crowing.
and of those 23 how many were active? you don't know so flaming them for it is pretty damn stupid.
LoL
You arent even in the conflict, yet you deem your opinion worth something.
Go hold Zincols hand.
(ps for your information, as you need it being you werent "involved/in the loop/have anything to do with it" there were 12 pilots at station when we jumped in and 16 hostiles local, that grew to 23 after about 15 minutes, we waited for the confirmed 19 active hostiles and 4 non confirmed to engage, but they didnt)
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KIAEddZ
Caldari
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.20 10:30:00 -
[187]
Originally by: LUKEC
How does creative killboarding actually work?
Because i really think you should consider employer losses or remove kills where goons are in majority :)
Otherwise, your enemys are winning
Love the way you and Zincol folow KIA round, from thread to thread....
Fanbois ftw tbh.
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.20 10:49:00 -
[188]
Originally by: KIAEddZ
Originally by: LUKEC
How does creative killboarding actually work?
Because i really think you should consider employer losses or remove kills where goons are in majority :)
Otherwise, your enemys are winning
Love the way you and Zincol folow KIA round, from thread to thread....
Fanbois ftw tbh.
Actually i'm just asking... because i bet i could filter some killboard in certain ways... and you still didn't answer.
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KIAEddZ
Caldari
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.20 11:00:00 -
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I'm not sure I understand your question?
Like all capmaign stats (your Alliance included) ours are generated from or killboard.
Kills we are iinvolved in and ships we have lost from the start date to the end date of the campaign.....
BoB MC etc etc, we all do it the same.
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Burlock Ironfist
Celtic Anarchy
Black Reign Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.20 11:02:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC
Originally by: KIAEddZ
Originally by: LUKEC
How does creative killboarding actually work?
Because i really think you should consider employer losses or remove kills where goons are in majority :)
Otherwise, your enemys are winning
Love the way you and Zincol folow KIA round, from thread to thread....
Fanbois ftw tbh.
Actually i'm just asking... because i bet i could filter some killboard in certain ways... and you still didn't answer.
though i havent looked at many of our losses, the ones i have i have definelty seen more goons on than kia, i also like that you count POD's, shuttles and noob ships as kills, i didnt know that many corps even counted these as kills these days...
I was expecting the heat to be turned on after goonies hired KIA i hope that tick tock actually means you have something planned ? would be kinda disapointed otherwise.
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.20 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ
I'm not sure I understand your question?
Like all capmaign stats (your Alliance included) ours are generated from or killboard.
Kills we are iinvolved in and ships we have lost from the start date to the end date of the campaign.....
BoB MC etc etc, we all do it the same.
Example from economy:
Enron had positive numbers due to creative accounting until the bubble burst,
so i'm just asking how exactly you get stats... is it just kia killboard, any filters... or even including future kills :P? Also are shuttles and noobships included? It's not really kia kill if there's 15 goons and 1 kia on mail, possibly kia guy in inty...
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Kaleeb
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.20 13:55:00 -
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Do bob not post a kills on their boards if only 1 or 2 of their pilots are involved in a kill? I think you'll find kia are no different from any other group in regards to posting kills.
Originally by: Blacklight
Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
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KIAEddZ
Caldari
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.20 14:31:00 -
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Edited by: KIAEddZ on 20/09/2006 14:32:38
Kaleeb, your watsing your beath.
LukeC follows KIA round, from thread to thread like a bad smell looking to score cheap points as much as is possible.
Its very sad tbh, but we have kind of giot used to it.
LukeC was the main reason we attacked PA with such personal venom, his local smack and in game smack was so bad it incensed my pilots, he kinda hasnt let it go since then.
We went to perma war with the PA, and had a big hand in watching them eventually crumble. I don think he has forgiven us for blamin him for that aggression.
the fact that BoB use the exact same method when summarising thier activities, is beyond him, he is just looking to demean and devalue, sad to see, but also completely obvious.
Get a grip Lukey baby and move on.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.09.20 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ
Edited by: KIAEddZ on 20/09/2006 14:32:38
Kaleeb, your watsing your beath.
LukeC follows KIA round, from thread to thread like a bad smell looking to score cheap points as much as is possible.
Its very sad tbh, but we have kind of giot used to it.
LukeC was the main reason we attacked PA with such personal venom, his local smack and in game smack was so bad it incensed my pilots, he kinda hasnt let it go since then.
We went to perma war with the PA, and had a big hand in watching them eventually crumble. I don think he has forgiven us for blamin him for that aggression.
the fact that BoB use the exact same method when summarising thier activities, is beyond him, he is just looking to demean and devalue, sad to see, but also completely obvious.
Get a grip Lukey baby and move on.
Nobody cares about it. They just want to disrepect you.
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Nebuli
Caldari
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2006.09.20 15:01:00 -
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Think the difference is that BOB and most other entitys dont actualy come on the forums chest beating there k/d ratios.
Personaly I would feel a bit of a prat for example claiming those two carrier kills when there is 1 KIA on one kill and 2 on the other, in a inty and a vaga, not like they contributed anything realy to the whatever number of GOONS that are also on he mail.
But I guess thats just me, but whatever realy, because if kills with combined KIA/GOON forces count then all losses by both entitys must be taken into the final count as well, surely this is only fair to do it both ways?
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Omeega
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.20 15:31:00 -
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was i the main reason why you attacked RA?
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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KIAEddZ
Caldari
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.20 15:38:00 -
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Originally by: Omeega
was i the main reason why you attacked RA?
LoL
We never attacked RA, we just joined an alliance that decided to take an area you guys live in.
We got you set to neutral these days.
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Omeega
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.20 15:41:00 -
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before joining the Coallition.
long time ago.
well nevermind then.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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KIAEddZ
Caldari
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.20 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Omeega
before joining the Coallition.
long time ago.
well nevermind then.
i think you shot at us first Omeega on that situation.
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Omeega
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.20 15:46:00 -
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was a contract because we were evil :/
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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KIAEddZ
Caldari
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.20 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: Omeega
was a contract because we were evil :/
aaaaah yes.
We didnt see you much though did we, we were also hunting ascn in Yulai, you guys were much further down south.
Well i love you now Omeega if thats any consolation.
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Crellion
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2006.09.20 17:18:00 -
[202]
Edited by: Crellion on 20/09/2006 17:26:02
Originally by: KIAEddZ
Originally by: hantwo
Originally by: KIAEddZ
You COW guys talk a good war, but thats about it. We had a 15 man Vaga/Ceptor fleet in y9g last night for over 30 minutes, awaiting the 23 local hostiles to engage...... as usual you waited for us to leave b4 you came crowing.
and of those 23 how many were active? you don't know so flaming them for it is pretty damn stupid.
LoL
You arent even in the conflict,
Well I, on the other hand, am in the conflivt and as far as I can see its KIA who is not in the conflict rly.
When one states the facts with no smuck at all as I did in my last post and the answer is generalities like "Debasing mercs is an old tactic" and politician empty words like that then I am even more confident that I am right.
About the "fleet" (fleet of 3 Vagas and some inties lawl) it went in system we got people to join gang then went looking for you and in 15 mins overall you had left local again...
We stand guilty of not being able to find Vagas an intys in safespots :|
Man 9 man Vaga inty gang is what you need to have supporting your main force by running the other way, haunting pipes, looking for strugglers etc. You cant have it as your ONLY force in the areafor the last 7 days and claim that you are waging war... what are you? a 9 man corp...
You think peeps on eve-o dont know what waging war means? When you generalise saying "that what all merc corps do [running around in frig and Vaga gangs]" you dont convince anybody but you insult a number of serious, powerful merc corps.
As for running away at 8km/s ... again you MUST be referring to your own peeps cause :
(a) we dont use snakes w actually like fighting
(b) the only time you camped our station in Stacmon (well we had allready moved but some peeps still visit it) we undocked with 5 against your 8 and YOU run off at 8km/s. Please reply here and say it didnt happen...
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Minnow maught
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2006.09.20 18:07:00 -
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Theres always Killboard stats to prove a point. To a 'certain' extent this post sides with Eddz ... hmmm did I really want to say that?
Stats are important both for outside perception as well as internal success monitoring. And in many cases these importnat stats can be different.
Certainly from an outside perception perspecitve, your best stats are the most important. Internally the most important are those that let you monitor your goal success accurately. You see this quite a lot with merc corps always externally quoting K/D ratio and with a lot of alliances pushing their members to post deathmails so that they can monitor things better.
Eddz is pushing the K/D ratio which externally can not be challenged and certainly shows him in a win situation. However without knowing the true nature of the contract, it is impossible for those outside of KIA to truely disprove that they are carrying out thier conttract successfully.
For example the contract could include a ship replacement clause in which case the employer would be quite happy that they have not needed to shell out much isk .... This is my presumption anyway.
With enemies having different agendas and hence different ways of measuring their success it is actually possible for everyone to win. Unless all parties are trying to achieve the lowest K/D ratio can anyone actually say 'you are loosing'. I actually see a lot of insinuation from all parties that the other is loosing. This is a futile arguement when objectives are different and not publicly stated.
It is however to see where some of the confusion comes from especially with the erroneously? leaked post on the KIA forum stating GOONS objectives.
Presently I would say that goons have not achieved thier objectives (as set out in that post), were still here and I also i do not believe Y9G is a 'safe place' for goons :) ... we can only guess at how KIA are involved in goons over all objectives.
Strange thing is (however unlikely) would this have actually been easier for Goons to try diplomacy first. At the moment, which ever way you cut the stats, goons are loosing ships and they are 'paying' mercs to achieve a good K/D ratio. With the way the stats are going, goons would have made a significant saving by buying AWAR and BRS out.
1 last point before you all fall asleep ... smack ... I haven't actually witnessed much from either side. Just like stats , 1 mans smack talk is anotherones bit of fun. Untill you really know the other side well can you gauge whether they are trying to smack talk or to them the perceive it is a bit of banter with the enemy ... I guess I am saying I resent your comments Eddz that AWAR are a bunch of smacktalkers when I actually know these peeps well enough to know they are havin a bit of fun.
Minnow out.
PS This thread is fully powered by lots of beer from the overpriced mini-bar... although I guess I could find stats that show it to be underpriced.
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Pepperami
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2006.09.20 18:18:00 -
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.. Which is why it's ironic that eddz posts in threads complaining about the state of pvp being dull, which he himself is a perfect example of the cause.
Also, it is utterly halarious that Goons consider this securing the space, since, well, we hardly were in y9g before kia were "paid" to "help".
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Forsaken Soul
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2006.09.20 18:34:00 -
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Edited by: Forsaken Soul on 20/09/2006 18:37:18
Originally by: KIAEddZ
Debasing the work of Mercs in the hope the employers will let them go is as old as the Merc profession has existed in Eve.
We both know that whenever KIA enter local, you guys run n hide, the kills we are getting are simply by surprising you or baiting and trapping you.
Our killboard shows clear activity every night for the last 4 days, we spend hours looking for your pilots, we goto y9g and you all run of at 8km/s....nice
You COW guys talk a good war, but thats about it. We had a 15 man Vaga/Ceptor fleet in y9g last night for over 30 minutes, awaiting the 23 local hostiles to engage...... as usual you waited for us to leave b4 you came crowing.
The end of the campaign will show clearly what happened, and as long as employer is giving us love, and you guys are coming crying to the forums, we are as happy as pigs in sht :)
ps (Campaign stats are 44 Kills 5 Losses... Losses are 3 Interceptors and 1 Battleship and 1 pod)
Lol Edz you must have an IQ of 5. You really expect us to be arsed getting a gang together to go attack your 7 ceptors, 3 vaga fleet that will run at the sight of anything anyway. A 3 day old noob knows you can't catch ceptors and vagabonds if they don't want to fight, and you've shown again and again, that you'll run at the sight of an equal fight.
All you want is to gank a single ship or two, and then run and hide, why on earth should we let you do that. Grow a pair of balls, bring decent ships and let's have a fight, all we get to fight these days are Goonies as their mercs are scared little girls who only
fly "exit" ships. Like a 4 month old char venturing into 0.0 for the first time in his new interceptor he just bought thinking at least I can run and hide and pick my battles, so I'll only attack t1 frigates and haulers....
I'm a very nice and patient person, but KiA is by far the biggest joke I've seen so far in EVE. You're accomplishing jack **** for your employer and jack **** for your corpmates that must be seriously bored. Well actually you're accomplishing one thing, you're boring us to death, we thought we'd get a fight, all we got was this smacking thread and an insight to the sorry state of merc corps in EVE.
Grow a pair of balls, cancel your account or go play in some other region of space....
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crinsom
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2006.09.20 19:50:00 -
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Well this dribble is now getting old,
tho one thing amuzes me big eddz's is if your old enough to remember the latest iraq'i war, you remind me of ******s general who had delusions that he believed his side to be winning, yet the was being beaten by the colilition forces at every turn
im sure the EvE online community know when they are being feed unreliable information, so atleast give them alittle credit and stop insulting there intelligence with your kill/death ratio, i have found this declareation of yours to be the most poor performace a corp can bring, you have under estimated people by thinking you can look good with a unimportant k/d ratio
this is a wait for it "game" and i pay my subs to have fun, not to be insulted by wasting our time with this silly contract, i thought this would be a good thing, but its been the worst thing ive done, i thought RA was a poor performace untill i have seen your corp in action,
you can kill as many frigs by ganking them all you want, its just showing all you know is you move 8kms+ a second and you gank solo pilots,
if you replie to this post, thats up to you, but i can alrady guess what you will say so smack/flame away i cant be bothered with your dribble anymore m8,
Have fun, take care,
hope you do better in your next contract than you have done in this one,
Crinsom
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KIAEddZ
Caldari
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.20 20:00:00 -
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Edited by: KIAEddZ on 20/09/2006 20:06:19
This is my last post on this thread.... It has been fun to join in some smack for once. But at the end of the day, this contract is all about achievable goals.
Muchlove to the Celts, as always honour and class exudes from them. I'm dissapointed with COW, they only have a few PvPers of note, and talk a far better game than they bring.
I am sorry that your not enjoying our presence, but we are not paid to give you the fun you crave.
We have a plan, we have instructions, we are sticking to them religously.
The goals are simple and very specific from our employer, KIA WILL achieve ours, the rest is up to Goons.
We will get paid, our employer will beg us to stay on for a few more weeks  , and we will go about our business. I have a never ending mail box of offers of work, everyone knows the more your enemies smack and swear blind your not doing your job, the more you must be.
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Crellion
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2006.09.20 20:17:00 -
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Edited by: Crellion on 20/09/2006 20:24:00
Boy will they be dissapointed ... 
BREAKING NEWS: KIA are actually nringing it now... kids smuck works \o/
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Nebuli
Caldari
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2006.09.20 21:11:00 -
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Edited by: Nebuli on 20/09/2006 21:12:09
Originally by: KIAEddZ
Edited by: KIAEddZ on 20/09/2006 20:06:19
This is my last post on this thread.... It has been fun to join in some smack for once. But at the end of the day, this contract is all about achievable goals.
Muchlove to the Celts, as always honour and class exudes from them. I'm dissapointed with COW, they only have a few PvPers of note, and talk a far better game than they bring.
I am sorry that your not enjoying our presence, but we are not paid to give you the fun you crave.
We have a plan, we have instructions, we are sticking to them religously.
The goals are simple and very specific from our employer, KIA WILL achieve ours, the rest is up to Goons.
We will get paid, our employer will beg us to stay on for a few more weeks , and we will go about our business. I have a never ending mail box of offers of work, everyone knows the more your enemies smack and swear blind your not doing your job, the more you must be.
Funny how you big up BRS and slam us, yet we have been saying the exact same things, find it pretty funny tbh.
And according to Crell you have actualy started fighting, respect, at last.
And you say we have been upset by your presence? actualy we have been upset by your LACK of presence up untill now.
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Der Pfaffe
Karnival of Death Squad
Barracudas.
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Posted - 2006.09.20 21:32:00 -
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Edited by: Der Pfaffe on 20/09/2006 21:33:39
Originally by: Crellion
Edited by: Crellion on 20/09/2006 20:24:00
Boy will they be dissapointed ...
BREAKING NEWS: KIA are actually nringing it now... kids smuck works \o/
Hmmmm... I suppose before today the 50 kills they made and the 2 bn or so damage they've done to you happened by remote control?
What you guys have actually done, with all your bollix, is give Eddz and his boys and girls about 5 pages of free publicity.
As Eddz said people always scream louder when they are hurting so considering the volume, your balls [collectively speaking] must be caught in a vice. Enjoy!
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