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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.09.14 15:06:00 -
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For PvE, Maller with a hardcore tank.
For PvP, Omen in full gank setup.
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Kojiami
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Posted - 2006.09.14 15:06:00 -
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I'm an ammarr pilot, with skills for amarr frigate, etc. Now, i have sufficient funds to pay for either, with full modules and required skills, but basically, which one would be better? I'm still staying out of 0.0 for a while by the way.
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Dred 'Morte
Sabre Inc
Center for Disease Creation
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Posted - 2006.09.14 16:37:00 -
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I doubt the Omen is better than an Maller for PvP. I'm in Obe right if anyone want's a duel. I have not yet tested my Maller in PvP but I think it's vastly superior to an Omen.
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Krulla
Minmatar
Queens of the Stone Age
Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.09.14 16:50:00 -
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 Originally by: Dred 'Morte
I doubt the Omen is better than an Maller for PvP. I'm in Obe right if anyone want's a duel. I have not yet tested my Maller in PvP but I think it's vastly superior to an Omen.
Yeah, because everyone knows that if A beats B in a 1v1, clearly, A is superior at all aspects of PvP. 
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Dred 'Morte
Sabre Inc
Center for Disease Creation
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Posted - 2006.09.14 17:12:00 -
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Oh I know what you mean now... Omen for gankfire. Very intresting those fights...
Sorry but I believe in 1vs1 2vs2 (etc..) pvp. 
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inSpirAcy
The Solopwnmobiles
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Posted - 2006.09.14 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Dred 'Morte
Sorry but I believe in 1vs1 2vs2 (etc..) pvp.
Amen.
It's not like a Thorax in full gank mode (5 HN, 3 MS) can't hold its own in a 1v1 against a tanked target, the same shouldn't be true of the Omen either. 
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Raubahn
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Posted - 2006.09.14 17:56:00 -
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Still, i need to choose what to fly between my frig and my prophecy -> Apocalypse -> Revalation -[5years-never]> avatar
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inSpirAcy
The Solopwnmobiles
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Posted - 2006.09.14 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: Raubahn
Still, i need to choose what to fly between my frig and my prophecy -> Apocalypse -> Revalation -[5years-never]> avatar
Go for the Maller, it's a solid ship for PvE and can fit a tank that'd keep you safe for weeks. If you're into PvP as well, my advice is go with the Maller as well, tank it heavily (fit small guns to be an effective bait + anti-tackler ship) and fly with friends.
Neither of them work well for solo PvP in my opinion. And I solo PvP in Amarrian ships.
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Dred 'Morte
Sabre Inc
Center for Disease Creation
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Posted - 2006.09.14 18:29:00 -
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The only problem of the Maller (besides the horrible cpu, lack of dronebay, way too low powergride, lack of launchers... harr jking  ) is that to function decently, it must not use a Warp Disruptor/Scrambler. If you have friends to do that for you, or your really good bouncing your target, the ship works just fine. 
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Kojiami
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Posted - 2006.09.14 19:00:00 -
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Is there even a point to go to 0.0 before battleship? I mean, battleship players can destroy cruisers, not to speak about dreadnaughts (Now that it's becomming more popular to outfit them as solo PvP ship o.O)
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Dred 'Morte
Sabre Inc
Center for Disease Creation
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Posted - 2006.09.14 19:02:00 -
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Dam right there is. This other day I made a an alt, and went to 0.0 scouting. N00b ship, n00b clone, 100% disposable. I looted a can with 30-40mill isk worth of modules in my Ibis and came back to Empire 0.0 rulez dude!
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CherniyVolk
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Posted - 2006.09.14 19:05:00 -
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Originally by: Kojiami
Is there even a point to go to 0.0 before battleship? I mean, battleship players can destroy cruisers, not to speak about dreadnaughts (Now that it's becomming more popular to outfit them as solo PvP ship o.O)
You can kill a battleship with a cruiser. You don't need a battleship for 0.0 PvP or ratting. You can do it all with a cruiser. Speaking from experience here, and I've never bought the Battleships skill book or battleship guns lvl 1.
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Raubahn
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Posted - 2006.09.14 19:05:00 -
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Whoa, what kind of can was it? Something people just didn't bother looting from ratting?
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Byzan Zwyth
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Posted - 2006.09.14 19:13:00 -
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Omen does have a drone bay which can really come in handy
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Raubahn
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Posted - 2006.09.14 19:42:00 -
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How can a cruiser kill a battleship? NOS one to death?
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Dred 'Morte
Sabre Inc
Center for Disease Creation
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Posted - 2006.09.14 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Raubahn
Whoa, what kind of can was it? Something people just didn't bother looting from ratting?
It was the can from a player who recently died. For reasons unknown to me, the killer did not loot the can. Possibly had more important stuff to do. Or possibly because didn't think that thorax could possibly have, moments before, looted a Palisade Cap Recharger (cosmos item) and such an item had survived the explosion.
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Dred 'Morte
Sabre Inc
Center for Disease Creation
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Posted - 2006.09.14 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: Raubahn
How can a cruiser kill a battleship? NOS one to death?
Let's say you go fight a Apocalypse with 8 turrets, go point black range, the Apocalypse won't hit you. Let's say you go fight a Raven with torps, orbit around it fast. Torps will do VERY LITLE damage to you. Just a few examples of rare, but possible situations where a cruiser can kill a battleship.
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Kojiami
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Posted - 2006.09.15 08:05:00 -
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Yeah, but most likely i'll have a trouble hitting it too. Maybe (unorthodox, weird strategy) smartbomb it to death from close range? Missles?
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Lord Infy
Amarr
No Quarter.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.15 10:07:00 -
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Whats the point of wondering how a cruiser can kill a bs. There's countless stories of n00bz wondering into low sec in their very 1st bs and an experienced pirate comes and pwns them in t1 frig.
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Kojiami
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Posted - 2006.09.15 10:21:00 -
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In a frig? I doubt it. I mean, even if the frig miraculously managed to avoid death, a battleship can still warp away, a frig will have a hard time scrambling a battleship... And if it stays at high range, it will get blown to oblivion. Stay at short range, and get missled/smartbombed (if you have them)
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Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr
1st Praetorian Guard
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Posted - 2006.09.15 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: Kojiami
In a frig? I doubt it. I mean, even if the frig miraculously managed to avoid death, a battleship can still warp away, a frig will have a hard time scrambling a battleship... And if it stays at high range, it will get blown to oblivion. Stay at short range, and get missled/smartbombed (if you have them)
If you stay at above 5km range, not many smartbombs will hurt you. And even at above 20km, a BS weapons won't hit an orbitting frig.
I once did a test with Aurora's agenst a shuttle. When the shuttle was standing still, i could hit it at 200km. When the shuttle moved, i could not. Same goes with a frig at 30km and multifrequency, they just can't track enough.
So yes, a frig can kill a BS, or atleast hold it down till help comes along.
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Danielle Desire
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Posted - 2006.09.15 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Kojiami
In a frig? I doubt it. I mean, even if the frig miraculously managed to avoid death, a battleship can still warp away, a frig will have a hard time scrambling a battleship...
No that is a wrong conclusion of your's. Most newbie-battleship-pilots would die to experienced frig-pilots i'd say. First of all this is because most newbie-bs-pilots don't have the skills to run their tanks forever. Cap is empty after a few minutes. Second of all newbie-bs-pilots do not fit their ships to compete with frigates. So even if they use missiles they do hardly any damage to them. If they cannot call in some buddies they die after their tank goes down.
This isn't exactly fair or nice. But it's the way it is.
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Deva Blackfire
DAB
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.15 11:55:00 -
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Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 15/09/2006 11:56:59
Originally by: Kojiami
Is there even a point to go to 0.0 before battleship? I mean, battleship players can destroy cruisers, not to speak about dreadnaughts (Now that it's becomming more popular to outfit them as solo PvP ship o.O)
No! Wait for titan before you come to 0,0. Otherwise you are not ready!
EDIT: i see that you have no clue :? Actually best 0,0 ship is interceptor because it can move freely around and engage targets you want.
Solo BS in 0,0 is EASIEST prey you can get.
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xenorx
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.15 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Kojiami
In a frig? I doubt it. I mean, even if the frig miraculously managed to avoid death, a battleship can still warp away, a frig will have a hard time scrambling a battleship... And if it stays at high range, it will get blown to oblivion. Stay at short range, and get missled/smartbombed (if you have them)
Its to bad that links to kill boards are frowned upon in the forums. You would be flooded with kill mails from frigates killing battleships.
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