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d026
Rapid Withdrawal
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Posted - 2015.01.03 10:19:57 -
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I quit eve a couple years ago because 0.0 combat was just so out of order that it was no longer fun. It was just a horrid buggy lag fest.
Ccp seemed to introduce some mechanics to prevent big blobs such as cap ships can't jump from one end of the map to he other. Was this enough? How is 0.0 combat these days?
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6003
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Posted - 2015.01.03 10:27:34 -
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d026 wrote:I quit eve a couple years ago because 0.0 combat was just so out of order that it was no longer fun. It was just a horrid buggy lag fest.
Ccp seemed to introduce some mechanics to prevent big blobs such as cap ships can't jump from one end of the map to he other. Was this enough? How is 0.0 combat these days?
Try unlocking the door for more content.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
12476
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Posted - 2015.01.03 10:38:48 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:d026 wrote:I quit eve a couple years ago because 0.0 combat was just so out of order that it was no longer fun. It was just a horrid buggy lag fest.
Ccp seemed to introduce some mechanics to prevent big blobs such as cap ships can't jump from one end of the map to he other. Was this enough? How is 0.0 combat these days?
Try unlocking the door for more content. You monster! :O
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6004
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Posted - 2015.01.03 10:43:03 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:d026 wrote:I quit eve a couple years ago because 0.0 combat was just so out of order that it was no longer fun. It was just a horrid buggy lag fest.
Ccp seemed to introduce some mechanics to prevent big blobs such as cap ships can't jump from one end of the map to he other. Was this enough? How is 0.0 combat these days?
Try unlocking the door for more content. You monster! :O
I come from the factory
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
15910
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Posted - 2015.01.03 10:44:21 -
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d026 wrote:I quit eve a couple years ago because 0.0 combat was just so out of order that it was no longer fun. It was just a horrid buggy lag fest.
Ccp seemed to introduce some mechanics to prevent big blobs such as cap ships can't jump from one end of the map to he other. Was this enough? How is 0.0 combat these days?
Well there are still some lagfests, but there are several more or less regional conflicts merrily burning away now that regularly provide fights that aren't lagfests. So the change was rather successful in that respect.
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Yarda Black
Militaris Industries Northern Coalition.
503
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Posted - 2015.01.03 11:03:36 -
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Based on your post I am under the impression you think 0.0 combat is no fun due to lag.
That hasn't changed. It is now called Time Dilation and kicks in every time you jump a reasonably sized fleet through a gate. The game slows down instead of simply stopping to respond.
I consider it an improvement.
But in all honesty, I do not believe you would call it that.
So my answer would be: The same
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Serene Repose
1992
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Posted - 2015.01.03 17:09:07 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:d026 wrote:I quit eve a couple years ago because 0.0 combat was just so out of order that it was no longer fun. It was just a horrid buggy lag fest.
Ccp seemed to introduce some mechanics to prevent big blobs such as cap ships can't jump from one end of the map to he other. Was this enough? How is 0.0 combat these days? Try unlocking the door for more content. I know. In an argument, you're one of these folks that brings up what somebody said fifteen years ago, right?
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knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
512
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Posted - 2015.01.03 18:40:04 -
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Lag is gone. However the only ship you'll see in null is the Ishtar. Literally only PL and the EG CFC Sig don't use it. Something about standards. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6004
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Posted - 2015.01.03 18:41:18 -
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Serene Repose wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:d026 wrote:I quit eve a couple years ago because 0.0 combat was just so out of order that it was no longer fun. It was just a horrid buggy lag fest.
Ccp seemed to introduce some mechanics to prevent big blobs such as cap ships can't jump from one end of the map to he other. Was this enough? How is 0.0 combat these days? Try unlocking the door for more content. I know. In an argument, you're one of these folks that brings up what somebody said fifteen years ago, right?
Maybe. If I bothered to listen to what people say.
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Hal Morsh
Icendus Corux
240
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Posted - 2015.01.03 18:54:37 -
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Well a few months back it was. You bring a 30 cruiser defense fleet to defend lowsec customs office, and 30 PL dreads would show up in the middle of the fight".
Dunno if that's changed... but. I've never been in null, as far as I hear they are likely to just take whatever they can in an offer to haul it for you, then gank you a few times.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
712
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Posted - 2015.01.03 19:07:08 -
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Null PVP:
- Tengus
- Cap blops
- Ishtars
- Covert hot droppers
- Bomber wings.
Can still kick small gangs out of your SOV np and sometimes you can find a good fleet fight but it isn't near as often as is possible with better game mechanics.
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Vorran
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2015.01.03 19:13:19 -
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NUll is all BLUE hot drops are the norm CTA's every 5 min just a big mess
still no fun still not going back to it
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Lexia Nova
CybinSect
0
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Posted - 2015.01.03 21:10:15 -
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That's disheartening. I thought, or should I say, I assumed null sec was full of all sorts of battles raging all the time. Are you guys saying null sec is stagnant and or stale?
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6005
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Posted - 2015.01.03 21:16:05 -
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Lexia Nova wrote:That's disheartening. I thought, or should I say, I assumed null sec was full of all sorts of battles raging all the time. Are you guys saying null sec is stagnant and or stale?
*snicker* *snort*
No. Not at all. 
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Hicksimus
Volatile Instability Resonance.
508
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Posted - 2015.01.03 21:33:26 -
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Lexia Nova wrote:That's disheartening. I thought, or should I say, I assumed null sec was full of all sorts of battles raging all the time. Are you guys saying null sec is stagnant and or stale?
Nullsec isn't stagnant or stale any more because that's what it was 3 years ago.....it is rotten now. As for all sorts of battles raging all the time, that was lowsec and NPC null but now the maggots(failed alliances) emerging from null with supercap fleets that are too easy to move away from the "danger" of nullsec are ruining lowsec and NPC null so highsec and FW lowsec are the only places left with battles raging all the time.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
713
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Posted - 2015.01.03 22:31:50 -
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Hicksimus wrote:Nullsec isn't stagnant or stale any more because that's what it was 3 years ago.....it is rotten now. As for all sorts of battles raging all the time, that was lowsec and NPC null but now the maggots(failed alliances) emerging from null with supercap fleets that are too easy to move away from the "danger" of nullsec are ruining lowsec and NPC null so highsec and FW lowsec are the only places left with battles raging all the time. The "maggots" fight each other and invade SOV holders so they probably have some fun, I guess. Lexia Nova wrote:That's disheartening. I thought, or should I say, I assumed null sec was full of all sorts of battles raging all the time. Are you guys saying null sec is stagnant and or stale?
There are always fights going and there is SOV changing hands. Brave would be the easiest to join and get something to do.
My bloc runs fleets almost all the time and there is quite a mix of doctrines but the enemies you face aren't very diverse
I would have recommended worm holes before frigate holes and recon changes but now that will only be any good for large corps and medium to large alliances. Ergo, they are becoming a waste land like low sec.
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Blobskillz McBlub
Manson Family Advent of Fate
20
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Posted - 2015.01.03 23:07:59 -
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Geminate is fun at the moment. |

Paynus Maiassus
Capital Munitions
213
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Posted - 2015.01.04 00:00:00 -
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d026 wrote:I quit eve a couple years ago because 0.0 combat was just so out of order that it was no longer fun. It was just a horrid buggy lag fest.
Ccp seemed to introduce some mechanics to prevent big blobs such as cap ships can't jump from one end of the map to he other. Was this enough? How is 0.0 combat these days?
As far and bugs and lag go it is pretty good these days, unless you consider tidi lag. It's Tengu and Ishtar only at this point though. Battleship and battle cruiser are too slow. A T3 nerf is on the way though.
It's still blobs alpha vs. Reps. Very boring. Carriers are still broken. |

Artemis Scat
Inertia Mining Industries
29
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Posted - 2015.01.04 00:34:17 -
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Catch is pretty fun right now with Test/Brave+a few others seeing action usually 1-3 times daily from PL, Nulli Secunda, The Kadeshi or BL. It seems far from dead in that area in my opinion. Maybe the the reason the forum-pioneers see stagnant space (though the term is somewhat of a paradox), is because they live in renter 0.0 where it is a bit like a strip club, you pay to get blue-balled. |

Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
565
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Posted - 2015.01.04 05:06:05 -
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Approach this way: it is not about how fun the lagfest actually is - but it is about what will motivate you to endure it.
For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/
Remember that whenever you have a bad day in EVE, the correct reponse is "Thank you CCP, may I please have another?"
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Sugar Smacks
State War Academy Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2015.01.04 05:53:25 -
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If you disliked lag then you will absolutely hate time dilation. Not only will this single "mechanic" allow the entire universe to participate in any reasonably sized fight. It also makes EvE look bad.
I still do not see how people enjoy a fight where they can literally go the bathroom in the middle of it but hey good for you.
The very worst of it is it doesn't even seem to be monitored, you can get just as bad tidi for 700 pilots as 2500. Furthermore, the people in charge don't seem to understand when you allow capitals to use gates (thats new), and slow down fights with time dilation, they are basically feeding all the largest alliances into a ruling party.
If time dilation were even close to real we would all still be watching the 7000th hour of star wars. Imagine one day where fights dont drag on for HOURS AND HOURS and actual decision making second by second mattered.
This is not the EvE reality however and makes watcing it just as boring as playing it. |

Deck Cadelanne
Exigent Circumstances CAStabouts
118
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Posted - 2015.01.04 08:52:23 -
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Artemis Scat wrote:Catch is pretty fun right now with Test/Brave+a few others seeing action usually 1-3 times daily from PL, Nulli Secunda, The Kadeshi or BL. It seems far from dead in that area in my opinion. Maybe the the reason the forum-pioneers see stagnant space (though the term is somewhat of a paradox), is because they live in renter 0.0 where it is a bit like a strip club, you pay to get blue-balled.
0.0 renter space is not null, it's a form of highsec somebody is dumb enough to pay somebody else for. Also can be a great place to get shiny kills, as nullbears often seem to be woefully unprepared for actual PVP.
If you live in null and see it as stagnant, you are doing it wrong.
Personally, I wonder sometimes if a lot of these posters are playing the same game I am...I get in fights pretty much every day, win some, lose some and I live in null. Maybe because I fly with folks who are there looking for fights and are willing to fly around and find them and don't mind losing. It's a game, see...and it's more fun if you are actually playing.
If you don't like lag...don't go plodding into big fleet fights with the rest of the F1 lemmings. If big fleet fights are your thing, learn to enjoy all the things that come with them...including TiDi/lag.
Find a niche where you can play the way you want to and hang out with people who want to do the same. Seek and ye shall find.
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn professional."
- Hunter S. Thompson
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knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
512
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Posted - 2015.01.04 10:32:49 -
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Lexia Nova wrote:That's disheartening. I thought, or should I say, I assumed null sec was full of all sorts of battles raging all the time. Are you guys saying null sec is stagnant and or stale?
It's better than it was but due to the complete inability of fozzy or rise to balance ships for anything other than small gang PvP, null is dominated by Ishtars. That led to Tengus as the hard counter and the ease of which bombers can be used has killed off BS fleets for most people. Only a few people now use them and they're faction BS with faction fit. Chances are you'll join an alliance and just fly Ishtars. |

Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
1649
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Posted - 2015.01.04 23:34:04 -
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I prefer lowsec. And MJD-ing onto Ishtar gangs with a RR BS fleet.  |

Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
565
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Posted - 2015.01.05 05:11:48 -
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Sugar Smacks wrote:If you disliked lag then you will absolutely hate time dilation. Not only will this single "mechanic" allow the entire universe to participate in any reasonably sized fight. It also makes EvE look bad.
I still do not see how people enjoy a fight where they can literally go the bathroom in the middle of it but hey good for you.
The very worst of it is it doesn't even seem to be monitored, you can get just as bad tidi for 700 pilots as 2500. Furthermore, the people in charge don't seem to understand when you allow capitals to use gates (thats new), and slow down fights with time dilation, they are basically feeding all the largest alliances into a ruling party.
If time dilation were even close to real we would all still be watching the 7000th hour of star wars. Imagine one day where fights dont drag on for HOURS AND HOURS and actual decision making second by second mattered.
This is not the EvE reality however and makes watcing it just as boring as playing it.
Time dilation is absolutely beautiful from a command perspective. The game stops being "pvp" and it turns into chess.
For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/
Remember that whenever you have a bad day in EVE, the correct reponse is "Thank you CCP, may I please have another?"
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Signal11th
1591
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Posted - 2015.01.05 08:41:55 -
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Lexia Nova wrote:That's disheartening. I thought, or should I say, I assumed null sec was full of all sorts of battles raging all the time. Are you guys saying null sec is stagnant and or stale?
It's been like that since I joined, people tell you different because as they are 0.0 pvp players and they got told years ago that was end content and they don't want to realise it's no different from being a high-sec miner. There are still vast swathes of 0.0 you can quite happily farm seeing no one for hours.
Time dilation is just a sticking plaster over a reoccurring wound.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
15924
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Posted - 2015.01.05 09:25:21 -
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Sugar Smacks wrote:If you disliked lag then you will absolutely hate time dilation. Not only will this single "mechanic" allow the entire universe to participate in any reasonably sized fight. It also makes EvE look bad.
I still do not see how people enjoy a fight where they can literally go the bathroom in the middle of it but hey good for you.
The very worst of it is it doesn't even seem to be monitored, you can get just as bad tidi for 700 pilots as 2500. Furthermore, the people in charge don't seem to understand when you allow capitals to use gates (thats new), and slow down fights with time dilation, they are basically feeding all the largest alliances into a ruling party.
If time dilation were even close to real we would all still be watching the 7000th hour of star wars. Imagine one day where fights dont drag on for HOURS AND HOURS and actual decision making second by second mattered.
This is not the EvE reality however and makes watcing it just as boring as playing it.
2013 called, it wants its badly informed whine back.
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Sugar Smacks
State War Academy Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2015.01.05 09:49:05 -
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Amyclas Amatin wrote:Sugar Smacks wrote:If you disliked lag then you will absolutely hate time dilation. Not only will this single "mechanic" allow the entire universe to participate in any reasonably sized fight. It also makes EvE look bad.
I still do not see how people enjoy a fight where they can literally go the bathroom in the middle of it but hey good for you.
The very worst of it is it doesn't even seem to be monitored, you can get just as bad tidi for 700 pilots as 2500. Furthermore, the people in charge don't seem to understand when you allow capitals to use gates (thats new), and slow down fights with time dilation, they are basically feeding all the largest alliances into a ruling party.
If time dilation were even close to real we would all still be watching the 7000th hour of star wars. Imagine one day where fights dont drag on for HOURS AND HOURS and actual decision making second by second mattered.
This is not the EvE reality however and makes watcing it just as boring as playing it. Time dilation is absolutely beautiful from a command perspective. The game stops being "pvp" and it turns into chess.
Theres a game everyone is racing to play. |

Laken Starr
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
64
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Posted - 2015.01.05 10:05:25 -
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Have the jump mechanic changes really not fixed anything? I was hoping a large swath of the renter corps would decide "Yep, this is ours now," now that it's not as trivial for large alliances to easily move their massive fleets. |

Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29263
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Posted - 2015.01.05 10:54:38 -
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