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HellsRazor Caldari FACTA NON VERBA	Posted - 2006.09.16 11:26:00 - [1] yes, its been said alot... BUT HELL why cant kills/losses be sent to a EVE database at same time pilots? and on eve-online have a KB. Only from when it starts it shows kills/losses to prevent drama.
Major Stormer Caldari Demon Womb Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.16 11:42:00 - [2] Quote: yes, its been said alot therefore, it clearly doesnt need another topic about it -------------------------- AHH the Stupid forum DELETED(!) all my mod chat in my sig when i added this image :(
Snodgey2004 Mega Modal M0nkeys	Posted - 2006.09.16 12:14:00 - [3] Wouldn't the server be used and add even more lag to the game ? anyway thats what out of game KB's are for
WiZZyWiGG Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.16 19:13:00 - [4] I quite like the idea of a central ccp run killboard, but then the external ones seem to do just fine. ____________
Aeaea XanoTech	Posted - 2006.09.16 21:09:00 - [5] Originally by: WiZZyWiGG I quite like the idea of a central ccp run killboard, but then the external ones seem to do just fine. EVE has such a vibrant community because it is so open, if CCP decide on a central killboard then we lose the entire KB making community, as well as the ability to do propaganda warfare, and especially information warfare (you'd be able to know what setup the person likely has within seconds).
Verone	Posted - 2006.09.16 21:38:00 - [6] Worst Idea Ever We don't need Eve turning into Counterstrike-Online. BACKSTORY AND FAN FICTION
Flaming sambuka Trinity Nova	Posted - 2006.09.16 21:42:00 - [7] Originally by: Verone Worst Idea Ever We don't need Eve turning into Counterstrike-Online. What are you trying to say about counter-strike, c'mon il rip you a new one right now My views do not reflect my corporations views.
Arii Smith	Posted - 2006.09.16 22:31:00 - [8] I reckon he is saying Counter-Strike is an immature arcade shooter. Of course, I play it to work off the shakes I get after a close PVP.
Jatonix FENN Corporation	Posted - 2006.09.17 12:29:00 - [9] problem is if they do a ccp killboard thing, its more work, its more gms, more modds, etc etc etc ____________________________________________ CEO and still kick'in your ass since KIA Like this Sig..? Visit
Hooty McBoobs	Posted - 2006.09.18 11:35:00 - [10] Well, not really, as it stands, the servers have to generate 2 killmails, one for the killer, and one for the victim. These are usually kept by the killer, I deleted all pre 2006 Killmails from my mailbox, but still have a couple of hundred in there = database entries. Some ppl have all their killmails from the start of their career. Instead of sending out mails, the server could just send one update to a seperate kills database on a standalone sql server which external killboards could grab updates from. Less mails = less lag.
Ishquar Teh'Sainte Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.09.18 11:53:00 - [11] Originally by: Hooty McBoobs Well, not really, as it stands, the servers have to generate 2 killmails, one for the killer, and one for the victim. These are usually kept by the killer, I deleted all pre 2006 Killmails from my mailbox, but still have a couple of hundred in there = database entries. Some ppl have all their killmails from the start of their career. Instead of sending out mails, the server could just send one update to a seperate kills database on a standalone sql server which external killboards could grab updates from. Less mails = less lag. and less choice for the players ... atm it's like - you got a report of a battle (the killmail) what you are doing with it, depends only on you. you can delete in the second you get it, you can post it on a public accessible killboard, you can post it on your own private killboard, you can ignore it ... killmails can be seen as tactical and strategical intel ... how many ships did the enemy lose, what engagements do they prefer - are they roaming in fast moving ceptor/frig-squads, or are the using hac-gangs ... do they prefer sniping or closerange combat and so-on. what are the fittings they use ... how successful are these fittings ... etc. imho it should be up to the player what he is doing with the killmails ___________________ -Skellibjalla- Life is a garden of perceptions. Pick your fruit.
WiZZyWiGG Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.18 14:01:00 - [12] Originally by: Aeaea Originally by: WiZZyWiGG I quite like the idea of a central ccp run killboard, but then the external ones seem to do just fine. EVE has such a vibrant community because it is so open, if CCP decide on a central killboard then we lose the entire KB making community, as well as the ability to do propaganda warfare, and especially information warfare (you'd be able to know what setup the person likely has within seconds). You wouldnt have to lose these killboards, but having an official killboard to compare with would be nice. Then people moaning about faked mails and people not posting losses would have to find something else to moan abaout ____________
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.09.18 14:23:00 - [13] It would turn eve into a stats game. It would also mean that everyone knew excatly where enemies are roaming around. At the moment, you can wait till your about to log before posting mails. Or in the case of the Celes killboard, it hides mails from the last 24 hours or so.
WiZZyWiGG Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.18 14:52:00 - [14] I thought Eve was all about stats anyway Anyway surely CCP could have a similar delay, im sure if they asked for support from existing killboard makers they would help out with a design etc.. I dont have any problems with external boards, some of them are really nice. But I dont see any issues really with an official one either other than using more of CCP's time which I guess is the biggest issue of them all. ____________
Ellandrian D'Amerathe	Posted - 2006.09.18 20:23:00 - [15] This is one of the very few issues that would put me out of the game unless there is an option to opt out entirely (meaning you kill me and neither the kill nor the loss mail appear on the board). A universal killboard would simply be a meta-game intellegence tool. With a few mouse clicks, someone could learn far too much about who is in a corporation, where they operate, what they fly, how they fit their ships, gang sizes, what times they are online. I personally could start sifting all that raw data and probabily get to the point of even figuring out alts or alt corps to a reasonable degree of probability, figuring out relationships between corps when I've never been within 50 jumps of a member. There are dozens, likely hundreds of people far better able to use that raw data than I am. It is just way too much information, too freely available, and just to satisfy a few egos...
Shamis Orzoz SniggWaffe	Posted - 2006.09.19 06:15:00 - [16] An official EVE Killboard would be great. It'll never happen though. Too many people would quit the game when faced with the harsh reality of their untainted stats.
Mac Knife Gallente Mordu's Elite	Posted - 2006.09.19 07:56:00 - [17] Would rather they worked on fixing the game instead of adding some e-peen mesuring ingame killboard, out of game ones are bad enough :P
Tarrin Gallente SHIFT INC S H I F T	Posted - 2006.09.19 09:09:00 - [18] Wow. This would totally ruin the game. This isn't a game to see who can get the most kills like in an fps. It's more based on killing to get something from it, money, land (space). I dont know how to really say this but I know a lot of people would start just pointlessly killing to try to get the highest number and no other reason. A big NO from me.
Miz Cenuij TunDraGon	Posted - 2006.09.19 11:22:00 - [19] Originally by: Tarrin Wow. This would totally ruin the game. This isn't a game to see who can get the most kills like in an fps. It's more based on killing to get something from it, money, land (space). I dont know how to really say this but I know a lot of people would start just pointlessly killing to try to get the highest number and no other reason. A big NO from me. LAMERZ, wtf you got to hide? Ashamed of the mass of losses people like this suffer? "Men are going to die.. and im going to kill them".
Twilight Moon Minmatar eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.09.19 11:28:00 - [20] Edited by: Twilight Moon on 19/09/2006 11:32:27 Edited by: Twilight Moon on 19/09/2006 11:31:57 Originally by: Shamis Orzoz An official EVE Killboard would be great. It'll never happen though. Too many people would quit the game when faced with the harsh reality of their untainted stats. I really dont know why people dont post all their losses (to players), it irritates me. Are some people so pathetic that they have to lie about how many ships they've lost in a fictional online game? Anyway, Killboards, meh. Not fussed either way. Keep em, or lose them. Wouldnt bother me. Really though, you should be feared through reputation, not by now many kills you've got against your name on a KB. You all know Ginger is going to be on top with his lust for popping newbies, but its not as if anyone really fears him. Verone on the other hand, he scares me.....and plays a mean game of Connect 4. Came at me from two directions at once and buggered me. :( ...on the other hand using a banana might be a viable alternative. Anyone Recruiting? 8m SP PvP Character looking for a new home, for a life as a pirate.
Raneru Gallente Euphoria Released	Posted - 2006.09.19 11:38:00 - [21] I'd settle for the ability to query a centralized kill database for any kills made by myself, corp or alliance. This could be in-game so you cannot look up kills that do not belong to you. or, maybe CCP could give corps/alliance leaders the option to recieve a monthly dump of all the kill/deathmails recieved? I'd love to have a record of all the kills where rats get the mail. :)
Bill Shankly	Posted - 2006.09.19 12:31:00 - [22] Edited by: Bill Shankly on 19/09/2006 12:32:04 I think the reason is because killboards are useless and they suck, if you want to get on a scoreboard play CS or BF2. Anyone with more than 2 braincells doesnt need to see themself at the top of a list to get a buzz.

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