You guys, sadly remind of the same kind of people who get their kicks and call it fun, massacring a 22 kids in a school and when the police shows, kill themselves. Why not attack a police station or army base? Because they would have a swift and violent end - just like yall trying to PVP. Same mentality but only in a game.

But PVP is more than just having the skills to fly ships, or the ships themselves. Its also why a 2 month old alt of a 3 year old veteran, can utterly stomp and decimate a new player who bought a 3 year old character in a faction battleship on the character Bazaar. PVP is just as much experience, as it is the skills to fly a good ship, which is something you seem to lack. And if you lack those skills, then youre not really a pure PVPer, because youre indistinguishable from a pure PVEer.

BTW, if youre ever up for some fun PVP, call me up. Im sure there are some things i can teach you about it.

As mentioned above, my post was general and did not really pass judgement or get personal with the gankers. I was only commenting on the system. However, the replies were anything but so to respond in kind....my opinion of high sec gankers aside from those who kill for profit is that most dont really have what it takes to really PVP and accept a ship loss by being bested in a fight.

You guys, sadly remind of the same kind of people who get their kicks and call it fun, massacring a 22 kids in a school and when the police shows, kill themselves. Why not attack a police station or army base? Because they would have a swift and violent end - just like yall trying to PVP. Same mentality but only in a game.

What they like is being able to control when to attack someone who cant really fight back, then accept their own ship loss to the "Way things are" with Concord and justify it as fun. They do this because its the only way they can actually get some PVP done and get some kicks out of it. There is no merit in it, none. Its j****ing off and calling it sex.

If you really wanted some merit you would go kill miners in null sec or low sec. But you dont because you cant. Its like those bullies in school who pick on the weak and the defenseless because it gives them en ego boost to do so. They however would never really pick a straight up fight because they cant take it. One punch in the face and the bully runs home to mamma.



Anyway, yall have fun.

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By your logic, Killing industrialists and miners in low/nullsec is no different from massacring 22 kids in a school, except that the police never show up and you run away scott free(which, in my opinion, is worse). Miners and industrials are just as helpless alone in low/null as they are in highsec.

Dude, what's wrong with you?!! If you can't separate a game from real life then you should probably stop playing. We don't need people like you here who tell us that exploding a pixel spaceship in a game is similar to murdering multiple children!

I didnt buy the character. Ive always owned it. Im fully aware that having the skills in game is not the same as knowing what to do with them. Ive trined this char so that I can pvp with it when I have the time.

Nope, its a parallel to mentality not to circumstances. IT was an extreme example, but its nonetheless an example of people getting powertrips by hurting the weak.

I knew that was going to start a fire.

GM's - Please lock the thread.

I think the opportunity for constructive discussion has come and gone.

I see my first post to you, which i thought was very constructive, isnt gonna get a response. Oh wells, i suppose im used to people dodging my arguments because theyre unable to respond back.

Can fly all sub cap ships L5 and all guns and missiles L5

Here is the eveboard for yall morons out there. http://eveboard.com/pilot/Roonia

I realized the orca thing once i saw the fit of the kill mail. I realize that manpower is also a factor, which i specified in my original post, not just ISK. My basic point is that the gaking thing took epidemic proportions, usually, in any environment like this when something happens this much, it usually a balance issue. I would be curios to see the statistics of dead barges vs the dead ships that kllled them, cost ratio and numbers in the last 6 months. Also putting up these numbers against the high sec ship kills daily average, would give you some meaningfull information.

Like seeing that dead barges account for 1% of total high sec isk loss would be no biggie and would mean things are not bad. Seeing dead barges and podded miners making up 25% of isk loss would indicate a problem.

uhhh...

I think shes talking about how she can use all the T2 weapons, and not necessarily that all the Specializations are level 5.

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Level 5 specialization is not really worth it unless you have nothing else to do with your time.

Simple math would seem to disagree with you. An extra 5% DPS or tank often makes or breaks a battle.

Pretty much all level 5 skills are worth it. Time consuming, yes, but worth it.