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Groover Crendraven
HC - HugGiver
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Posted - 2015.01.06 17:27:52 -
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Hi guys,my first post in the forum yay :)
Just recently i have started exploring in nullsec,looking for data and relic sites,and i just cant find any...
I did find some about a week ago but for the last couple of days nothing.In the past 3 days,every day i went through at least 40-50 nullsec systems and didnt found a single site...
Am i just really unlucky or what?
I know someone must have cleaned it out before i got there,but i usually play about 4 hours after the server restarts and cant play sooner.
So was this just bad luck or should i start doing combat sites,cause i see a load of those...?
Thx |
VaIefar Drekavac
Independent Sharpshooters
14
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Posted - 2015.01.06 17:33:27 -
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Groover Crendraven wrote:Hi guys,my first post in the forum yay :) Just recently i have started exploring in nullsec,looking for data and relic sites,and i just cant find any... I did find some about a week ago but for the last couple of days nothing.In the past 3 days,every day i went through at least 40-50 nullsec systems and didnt found a single site... Am i just really unlucky or what? I know someone must have cleaned it out before i got there,but i usually play about 4 hours after the server restarts and cant play sooner. So was this just bad luck or should i start doing combat sites,cause i see a load of those...? Thx
AFAIK, playing before or after server maintenance has but little to no impact on exploration, since the sites do not "reset", but rather re-spawn on an apparent random basis.
As such, it's possible to find systems with many sites and then again, systems with none at all. It's entirely possible that you have been in somebody's trail (x-jumps ahead of you) and as such, you've been just unlucky.
I do assume there are also a whole lot of people doing exploration.
Do correct me if I'm wrong though. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
19030
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Posted - 2015.01.06 17:35:09 -
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Go to a different region and try again. Its just people cleaning them all out before you get there, that's all.
And don't be afraid to run through other people's sov systems too. Half the time the carebears are too scared due to a red in the constellation to undock and run sites, giving you the prime access!
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
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Jake Peters
Shadow Core Conglomerate
16
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Posted - 2015.01.06 18:15:21 -
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Note to self....skip the exploration profession!
....or maybe that's just what you want us to think to deter us..... |
Groover Crendraven
HC - HugGiver
0
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Posted - 2015.01.06 18:19:42 -
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VaIefar Drekavac wrote:Groover Crendraven wrote:Hi guys,my first post in the forum yay :) Just recently i have started exploring in nullsec,looking for data and relic sites,and i just cant find any... I did find some about a week ago but for the last couple of days nothing.In the past 3 days,every day i went through at least 40-50 nullsec systems and didnt found a single site... Am i just really unlucky or what? I know someone must have cleaned it out before i got there,but i usually play about 4 hours after the server restarts and cant play sooner. So was this just bad luck or should i start doing combat sites,cause i see a load of those...? Thx AFAIK, playing before or after server maintenance has but little to no impact on exploration, since the sites do not "reset", but rather re-spawn on an apparent random basis. As such, it's possible to find systems with many sites and then again, systems with none at all. It's entirely possible that you have been in somebody's trail (x-jumps ahead of you) and as such, you've been just unlucky. I do assume there are also a whole lot of people doing exploration. Do correct me if I'm wrong though, I usually have to ask my way to my vessel's bridge, so..
U sure about sites respawning random and not after server restart? |
Gitahh
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
2
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Posted - 2015.01.06 18:29:41 -
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Groover Crendraven wrote:
U sure about sites respawning random and not after server restart?
If I remember correctly, the sites only despawn after someone has run it, or a certain amount of time passes with it NOT being run.
Once a site despawns, a new site will spawn somewhere else. Sometimes it's not in the same system.
You should try running some sites in wormholes, there's usually plenty to choose from! Just please remember to use bookmarks once you get inside the wormhole, otherwise you will get lost and have to probe your way back out.
Please, make bookmarks. Don't make the same mistake other rookie explorers have! |
Groover Crendraven
HC - HugGiver
0
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Posted - 2015.01.06 19:04:35 -
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Gitahh wrote:Groover Crendraven wrote:
U sure about sites respawning random and not after server restart?
If I remember correctly, the sites only despawn after someone has run it, or a certain amount of time passes with it NOT being run. Once a site despawns, a new site will spawn somewhere else. Sometimes it's not in the same system. You should try running some sites in wormholes, there's usually plenty to choose from! Just please remember to use bookmarks once you get inside the wormhole, otherwise you will get lost and have to probe your way back out. Please, make bookmarks. Don't make the same mistake other rookie explorers have!
Thx,that helps a lot,guess it was just bad luck then :(
Gonna try again see how it goes,and i cant do wormhole sites cause those are guarded and im doing my exploring in a mighty imicus |
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1725
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Posted - 2015.01.06 19:15:57 -
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Gitahh wrote:
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You should try running some sites in wormholes, there's usually plenty to choose from!
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And when the WH residents (or pvp day-trippers) decloak beside him in a Proteus, and land with other sundry r@pe accoutrements?
While you may find more unworked sites in WH's, the risks go up astronomically with having no local chat to watch for +1's. Just sayin.
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Aralieus
The Inf1dels
240
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Posted - 2015.01.06 19:27:56 -
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Groover Crendraven wrote:Gitahh wrote:Groover Crendraven wrote:
U sure about sites respawning random and not after server restart?
If I remember correctly, the sites only despawn after someone has run it, or a certain amount of time passes with it NOT being run. Once a site despawns, a new site will spawn somewhere else. Sometimes it's not in the same system. You should try running some sites in wormholes, there's usually plenty to choose from! Just please remember to use bookmarks once you get inside the wormhole, otherwise you will get lost and have to probe your way back out. Please, make bookmarks. Don't make the same mistake other rookie explorers have! Thx,that helps a lot,guess it was just bad luck then :( Gonna try again see how it goes,and i cant do wormhole sites cause those are guarded and im doing my exploring in a mighty imicus
It's set up that sites that would spawn in low sec spawn in wormholes now too so you can run them in your imicus and be just fine, remember to check D-scan frequently however. You never know who could be lurking about so catching combat probes or even thier ship on scan will give you the heads up you may need to get out safely.
Oderint Dum Metuant
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Groover Crendraven
HC - HugGiver
0
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Posted - 2015.01.06 19:45:52 -
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Aralieus wrote:Groover Crendraven wrote:Gitahh wrote:Groover Crendraven wrote:
U sure about sites respawning random and not after server restart?
If I remember correctly, the sites only despawn after someone has run it, or a certain amount of time passes with it NOT being run. Once a site despawns, a new site will spawn somewhere else. Sometimes it's not in the same system. You should try running some sites in wormholes, there's usually plenty to choose from! Just please remember to use bookmarks once you get inside the wormhole, otherwise you will get lost and have to probe your way back out. Please, make bookmarks. Don't make the same mistake other rookie explorers have! Thx,that helps a lot,guess it was just bad luck then :( Gonna try again see how it goes,and i cant do wormhole sites cause those are guarded and im doing my exploring in a mighty imicus It's set up that sites that would spawn in low sec spawn in wormholes now too so you can run them in your imicus and be just fine, remember to check D-scan frequently however. You never know who could be lurking about so catching combat probes or even thier ship on scan will give you the heads up you may need to get out safely.
Wait,i dont understand,i can do data and relic sites in wormholes without getting into combat with the sleepers or whatever they are called? |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
87
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Posted - 2015.01.06 19:46:53 -
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Be brave, a single successful null type relic nets you enough to replace a lot of T1 scanning frigs, just unload your loot frequently. The pirate faction sites are also spawning in lower class WHs now ("unknown space"), but avoid warping to the "unsecured" and "forgotten" sleeper sites as they contain tough rats.
Also check the search results in the forum, a lot of info about null exploration to find here.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Twitch Seilus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2015.01.06 19:59:49 -
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Tipa Riot wrote:Be brave, a single successful null type relic nets you enough to replace a lot of T1 scanning frigs, just unload your loot frequently. The pirate faction sites are also spawning in lower class WHs now ("unknown space"), but avoid warping to the "unsecured" and "forgotten" sleeper sites as they contain tough rats.
Also check the search results in the forum, a lot of info about null exploration to find here.
Do all relic/data sites in WH space contain sleeper patrols or just some? |
Gitahh
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
2
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Posted - 2015.01.06 20:02:55 -
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Groover Crendraven wrote:Wait,i dont understand,i can do data and relic sites in wormholes without getting into combat with the sleepers or whatever they are called?
Yes. Just do Data and Relic sites if you don't want any combat. And as others have said, wormholes can be dangerous. Just use your directional scan often and stay alert and you should be okay. |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
88
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Posted - 2015.01.06 20:04:05 -
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Twitch Seilus wrote:Tipa Riot wrote:Be brave, a single successful null type relic nets you enough to replace a lot of T1 scanning frigs, just unload your loot frequently. The pirate faction sites are also spawning in lower class WHs now ("unknown space"), but avoid warping to the "unsecured" and "forgotten" sleeper sites as they contain tough rats.
Also check the search results in the forum, a lot of info about null exploration to find here. Do all relic/data sites in WH space contain sleeper patrols or just some?
Only those with the key words above are guarded afaik ... Positive, check for those with a pirate faction name, e.g. "Sansha" in the name, they are NPC-free.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1725
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Posted - 2015.01.06 20:37:59 -
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Gitahh wrote:Groover Crendraven wrote:Wait,i dont understand,i can do data and relic sites in wormholes without getting into combat with the sleepers or whatever they are called? Yes. Just do Data and Relic sites if you don't want any combat. And as others have said, wormholes can be dangerous. Just use your directional scan often and stay alert and you should be okay.
Your going to get this dude murdered by a skilled WH resident (or day tripper) in a cloaky Prot. At least in null you can watch local and cloak up when +1's enter, in a WH your d-scan does squat against that covops warping in on you.
p.s.
Also, good luck catching a hunter briefly transitioning from entry/logon to cloaking up, once the Recon changes go in removing them from d-scan completely...
Better use of a WH solo exploration wise is just as a conduit to nullsec IMHO, where you can find empty systems, run sites, and cloak as soon as you see a +1 in local.
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Serene Repose
2019
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Posted - 2015.01.06 20:50:49 -
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If you take advice on this forum about things involving your personal security (i.e., where your butt is gonna be)
you're NUTS.
Treason never prospers. What is the reason?
Why, if it prospers, none dare call it "treason."
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
Spaceship Bebop
3290
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Posted - 2015.01.06 21:03:26 -
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Try this:
1. Look for wormholes leading to nullsec
2. Jump through, then check out the region on dotlan. Check for activity (jumps, PVP kills, NPC kills)
3. If activity levels are very low, hunt for data/relic
4. If they're high, go back to 1
I've always read that sites respawn as soon as someone clears them, in some other place. In theory, this means that, though you won't find much in regions with a lot of traffic, you could find LOTS in 'remote' regions.
Good luck!
Make space glamorous!
Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
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Winter Archipelago
Furtherance.
329
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Posted - 2015.01.06 21:19:35 -
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Investigating wormholes is a good idea, but be warned that not all the sites will be safe. Any Sleeper site will have very, VERY powerful rats protecting it. In a wormhole, you want to look for the nulsec-class sites. These will have names involving Sansha, Guristas, Angels, Serpentis, and Blood Raiders. The others are all going to be Sleeper sites which take a LOT of firepower (and tank) to handle.
One big thing you can always do with a wormhole, though, is use it to get to other parts of New Eden that may not have as much activity. Deep nulsec or distant lowsec are both a normal stop with wormholes, and while nulsec sites do indeed have better payouts, you'll still make more if you run many lowsec sites over a single nulsec site, so don't discount an area just because it isn't nulsec.
Ransoms are accepted in Isk, Mods, Ships, and Dolls.
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Groover Crendraven
HC - HugGiver
0
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Posted - 2015.01.06 21:31:31 -
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I didnt know there are sites in wormholes that arent guarded,that changes a lot of things
And dont worry guys i can handle wormholes i have been using them to get from high sec to nullsec and didnt die once so far...
Thx a lot for replies guys  |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
The Irukandji.
1873
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Posted - 2015.01.06 23:04:12 -
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Groover Crendraven wrote:Hi guys,my first post in the forum yay :) Just recently i have started exploring in nullsec,looking for data and relic sites,and i just cant find any... [snip] Thx
Sometimes if you scan something else down (ships, structures, etc) and play with your default settings you can forget to set them back to show anomalies and sites, etc. Make sure your scan list is set to show these things. I've had it happen before and spent a few minutes scratching my head.
Other than that - yes other people might have gotten there first and run them before you (not likely though if you say this happened in a great deal of systems), or it could just be a run of bad luck from the (non) random number generator. Try a different region maybe? |
Gorthanator
SQUIDS.
2
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Posted - 2015.01.06 23:14:16 -
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I find Wormholes are relatively safe due to the low population, If you want to be totally safe don't bother but the risk can be worth the reward. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6018
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Posted - 2015.01.06 23:43:09 -
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Groover Crendraven wrote:Hi guys,my first post in the forum yay :) Just recently i have started exploring in nullsec,looking for data and relic sites,and i just cant find any... I did find some about a week ago but for the last couple of days nothing.In the past 3 days,every day i went through at least 40-50 nullsec systems and didnt found a single site... Am i just really unlucky or what? I know someone must have cleaned it out before i got there,but i usually play about 4 hours after the server restarts and cant play sooner. So was this just bad luck or should i start doing combat sites,cause i see a load of those...? Thx
Have you tried using probes?
Sorry had to ask.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Kharaxus
CareBear Initiations
The Foundation To Protect Endangered CareBears
75
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Posted - 2015.01.06 23:51:09 -
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Do YOU normally find sites in Null sec?
Are your Probe Scanner settings set at: Show All, and Show Anomalies?
So when you fly through these systems, and you open your scanner - it shows no sigs at all?
Edit: Yeah I read the OP wrong. Likely some highly skilled explorer flying through and scooping them on the fly. |
Quanah Comanche
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
62
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Posted - 2015.01.06 23:58:23 -
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Groover Crendraven wrote:VaIefar Drekavac wrote:Groover Crendraven wrote:Hi guys,my first post in the forum yay :) Just recently i have started exploring in nullsec,looking for data and relic sites,and i just cant find any... I did find some about a week ago but for the last couple of days nothing.In the past 3 days,every day i went through at least 40-50 nullsec systems and didnt found a single site... Am i just really unlucky or what? I know someone must have cleaned it out before i got there,but i usually play about 4 hours after the server restarts and cant play sooner. So was this just bad luck or should i start doing combat sites,cause i see a load of those...? Thx AFAIK, playing before or after server maintenance has but little to no impact on exploration, since the sites do not "reset", but rather re-spawn on an apparent random basis. As such, it's possible to find systems with many sites and then again, systems with none at all. It's entirely possible that you have been in somebody's trail (x-jumps ahead of you) and as such, you've been just unlucky. I do assume there are also a whole lot of people doing exploration. Do correct me if I'm wrong though, I usually have to ask my way to my vessel's bridge, so.. U sure about sites respawning random and not after server restart?
Yes. When a site is cleared, it reappears elsewhere. |
Quanah Comanche
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
62
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Posted - 2015.01.07 00:00:38 -
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Gitahh wrote:Groover Crendraven wrote:Wait,i dont understand,i can do data and relic sites in wormholes without getting into combat with the sleepers or whatever they are called? Yes. Just do Data and Relic sites if you don't want any combat. And as others have said, wormholes can be dangerous. Just use your directional scan often and stay alert and you should be okay.
Wait.......only faction sites are not sleepers. There are plenty of data and relic sites that are...I wish folks would not post when they know not of what they speak... |
Quanah Comanche
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
62
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Posted - 2015.01.07 00:02:27 -
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To OP. There are plenty of sites in Null. It's just that the server is clogged with explorers. I have quit exploring and just ambush the noobs now. Not worth it to compete for sites.
It has turned me bad..... |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6018
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Posted - 2015.01.07 00:24:06 -
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Quanah Comanche wrote:To OP. There are plenty of sites in Null. It's just that the server is clogged with explorers. I have quit exploring and just ambush the noobs now. Not worth it to compete for sites.
It has turned me bad.....
"No wonder they fight, there's too many of them".
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Jita Alt666
1392
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Posted - 2015.01.07 01:41:55 -
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Quanah Comanche wrote:To OP. There are plenty of sites in Null. It's just that the server is clogged with explorers. I have quit exploring and just ambush the noobs now. Not worth it to compete for sites.
It has turned me bad.....
Just use combat probes...
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Signal11th
1596
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Posted - 2015.01.08 14:16:57 -
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OP: If you have any questions ref exploration just contact me in game in regards to exploration or send me a mail.
God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster!
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Syn Shi
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
80
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Posted - 2015.01.08 18:40:34 -
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FYI - Dscan wont help you in wormhole space come Proteus. |
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