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Kale Raleigh
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.01.07 00:51:12 -
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I have decided that I want to try exploring for my main source of income to fund my PvP. Currently I can use a heron with what I believe to be just barely trained up enough to use the ship/equipment.
In order to explore effectively both in low and in wh space I thought it would be worth the time training to use a buzzard since it can fit a covert ops cloak. Am I wrong? Would I be fine with just a T1 cloak in a heron until I'm trained? Is it even worth training a T2 just for exploring in case I discover a different method to make isk that is better than exploring?
Other than that I would like to know what else I require to make isk effectively while I explore. Whether it be game knowledge or skills.
Also, where is the best place to find relic and data sites? Should I journey to null or is low a better option.
Thanks for your time
o7 |
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
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Posted - 2015.01.07 01:07:43 -
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Kale Raleigh wrote:I have decided that I want to try exploring for my main source of income to fund my PvP. Currently I can use a heron with what I believe to be just barely trained up enough to use the ship/equipment.
In order to explore effectively both in low and in wh space I thought it would be worth the time training to use a buzzard since it can fit a covert ops cloak. Am I wrong? Would I be fine with just a T1 cloak in a heron until I'm trained? Is it even worth training a T2 just for exploring in case I discover a different method to make isk that is better than exploring?
Other than that I would like to know what else I require to make isk effectively while I explore. Whether it be game knowledge or skills.
Also, where is the best place to find relic and data sites? Should I journey to null or is low a better option.
Thanks for your time
o7
Yes Buzzard, yes covert ops cloaking device II, Yes arch and hack V, yes null and wormholes. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2015.01.07 01:46:07 -
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Kale Raleigh wrote:In order to explore effectively both in low and in wh space I thought it would be worth the time training to use a buzzard since it can fit a covert ops cloak. Am I wrong? Would I be fine with just a T1 cloak in a heron until I'm trained? Is it even worth training a T2 just for exploring in case I discover a different method to make isk that is better than exploring? For wormhole exploration, yes a covert ops cloak is by far the best choice.
For nullsec, it really depends. There are just as many people exploring in cheap T1 frigate hulls as there are T2 hulls and Astero's.
The advantage of the T1 hull is the price. You can lose a lot of them and it won't hurt your wallet much. As exploration is often a solo activity and you will be jumping into systems you don't know much about, T1's give you a cheap loss if you jump into a bubble camp and/or are scanned down and killed while you are exploring.
For wormholes, the ability to warp cloaked provides an advantage to hulls that can fit a covops cloak.
My advice would be to explore null in a T1 hull while you are training skills and if the income/activity suits you, then move to T2 or faction ship when you can and then go exploring wormholes.
Quote:Other than that I would like to know what else I require to make isk effectively while I explore. Whether it be game knowledge or skills.
Rather than repeating work already written, here's a few links:
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Exploration_guide http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Exploration http://www.toptiertactics.com/21341/eve-online-exploration-guide-billions-and-billions-of-isk/#axzz3O60oubEU
Quote:Also, where is the best place to find relic and data sites? Should I journey to null or is low a better option. Either is fine. Relic sites will give you more income that data sites as a general rule and there are more specialist sites that provide higher income again (sleeper cache, ghost sites, etc.)
Wormholes will eventually give you the highsect income of all.
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Serene Repose
2022
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Posted - 2015.01.07 02:08:45 -
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Apparently all it takes is large cahoneys.
Treason never prospers. What is the reason?
Why, if it prospers, none dare call it "treason."
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Quanah Comanche
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.01.07 02:20:49 -
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Since there are no other posts on this very subject, just a Heron with a probe launcher will do. |
Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2015.01.07 04:40:34 -
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There are plenty of Wormholes just not so many that go where you want them to.
Stop What ? The other threads are different are they ?
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2015.01.07 04:45:28 -
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Kale Raleigh wrote:What do I need for wormhole/lowsec exploring?
Friends.
Firstly, you want an interceptor to jump through and check for bubbles and campers. Secondly, you want a cloaked scanning ship. Thirdly you want some ships to destroy the sleepers or the players you are after. Finally, you want a salvager.
CSM Ten movement for change.
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.01.07 05:59:11 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Kale Raleigh wrote:What do I need for wormhole/lowsec exploring? Friends. Firstly, you want an interceptor to jump through and check for bubbles and campers. Secondly, you want a cloaked scanning ship. Thirdly you want some ships to destroy the sleepers or the players you are after. Finally, you want a salvager. Uhh,
Exploring =/= Having to destroy stuff. Not even in WHs, so long as you can tank the damage. Three out of four of those things can be done in an Interceptor.
Seriously, why do people like to specialise so much? |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.07 11:49:34 -
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Kale Raleigh wrote:What do I need for wormhole/lowsec exploring? Friends. Firstly, you want an interceptor to jump through and check for bubbles and campers. Secondly, you want a cloaked scanning ship. Thirdly you want some ships to destroy the sleepers or the players you are after. Finally, you want a salvager. Uhh, Exploring =/= Having to destroy stuff. Not even in WHs, so long as you can tank the damage. Nearly all of those four of those things can be done with an Interceptor. Not standard, but I'm just sayin'. Friends is always more time efficient, but only ever really needed in PvP. You can't do sleeper relic/data sites in an interceptor, the rats will insta-pop you. But the interceptor explorer is a very valid option for non-combat exploration in Null/WH with high skills, have a look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66_vJ3e6gS8
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.01.07 12:19:11 -
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Tipa Riot wrote:You can't do sleeper relic/data sites in an interceptor, the rats will insta-pop you. But the interceptor explorer is a very valid option for non-combat exploration in Null/WH with high skills, have a look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66_vJ3e6gS8 Like I said,
Quote:Thirdly you want some ships to destroy the sleepers or the players you are after. Nearly.
Also, I've already seen JonnyPew's video. |
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Kharaxus
CareBear Initiations The Foundation To Protect Endangered CareBears
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Posted - 2015.01.07 12:50:12 -
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Kale Raleigh wrote:I have decided that I want to try exploring for my main source of income to fund my PvP.
Don't do exploring to fund pvp.
My advice would be to go to FW instead and do missions for LPs, using a SB.
Or do pvp in FW for LPs using T1 frigates.
Buy items from LP store, sell items on market for ISK.
Either way - using T1 frigates, or SB in FW, you are going to learn basic mechanics for doing WH space in the long run.
The intention to do WH space, or to "explore" to fund pvp is a little skewed.
When you are ready to do WH space, thats a whole different science than "making ISK for pvp". |
Ka'Narlist
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.01.07 13:16:20 -
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The problem with a buzzard is that it's harder to fit for exploration bonuses then a heron and as others allready said if you loose a heron its much cheaper then lossing a buzzard. |
Chal0ner
Coreli Corporation The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2015.01.07 13:42:29 -
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That one is - which I learnt the hard way - not totally accurate regarding ghost sites. Basically the timer at which npc spawn may be set to more or less 0 (i.e. the second you start a hack). Kind of "ouch". Especially in a frig. |
Solecist Project
All Glory to the HypnoBoobs
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Posted - 2015.01.07 14:05:26 -
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Serene Repose wrote:Apparently all it takes is large cahoneys boobees. Fixed your mistake. :)
Ralph King-Griffin > **** you sol, years, ****ing years since thats happend
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Kharaxus
CareBear Initiations The Foundation To Protect Endangered CareBears
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Posted - 2015.01.07 14:30:38 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Serene Repose wrote:Apparently all it takes is large cahoneysboobees BALLS. Fixed your mistake. :)
Fixed it better. |
Solecist Project
All Glory to the HypnoBoobs
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Posted - 2015.01.07 14:36:01 -
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Kharaxus wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Serene Repose wrote:Apparently all it takes is large cahoneysboobees BALLS. Fixed your mistake. :) Fixed it better. That covers it very well actually!
And I apologise to the banana et al, didn't mean offense. Even petite ones are gigantic in the eyes of those who enjoy staring at them!
This topic of holes and balls makes me feel all weird.
Ralph King-Griffin > **** you sol, years, ****ing years since thats happend
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Kharaxus
CareBear Initiations The Foundation To Protect Endangered CareBears
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Posted - 2015.01.07 14:51:30 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Kharaxus wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Serene Repose wrote:Apparently all it takes is large cahoneysboobees BALLS. Fixed your mistake. :) Fixed it better. That covers it very well actually! And I apologise to the banana et al, didn't mean offense. Even petite ones are gigantic in the eyes of those who enjoy staring at them! This topic of holes and balls makes me feel all weird.
Reminded me of Calamity Jane's line in Deadwood: "I don't drink where I'm the only ****** one with balls." |
Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.01.07 16:41:33 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Kharaxus wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Serene Repose wrote:Apparently all it takes is large cahoneysboobees BALLS. Fixed your mistake. :) Fixed it better. That covers it very well actually! And I apologise to the banana et al, didn't mean offense. Even petite ones are gigantic in the eyes of those who enjoy staring at them! This topic of holes and balls makes me feel all weird.
Proud wearer of a C cup and 0 (natural) balls ! Also the question is not how "long" the "banana" is but rather how "wide" the "banana" is :P
On topic however, I can confirm that WH exploration gives you enough to sustain through losing a 1 or 2 Asteros here and there :D
" And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit -
I never felt so good, I never felt so hid ! "
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.07 19:48:08 -
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:Tipa Riot wrote:You can't do sleeper relic/data sites in an interceptor, the rats will insta-pop you. But the interceptor explorer is a very valid option for non-combat exploration in Null/WH with high skills, have a look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66_vJ3e6gS8 Like I said, Quote:Thirdly you want some ships to destroy the sleepers or the players you are after. Nearly. Also, I've already seen JonnyPew's video. Yup, right. But the point of the almost uncatchable ceptor explorer is, that you can do non-combat relic sites solo without the need to change ships or fits. The drawback is the non-bonused hull requiring good skills to be effective.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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DarkBringer The Second
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.01.10 15:25:36 -
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Thanks for the info m8. |
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JINGKO BELLS
EvE-Scout
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Posted - 2015.01.10 16:55:21 -
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I'll make a pitch for basing out of Thera if exploration is your thing.
As a transportation hub and exploration hub from which to sally forth into all of eve, low/high/null and J-space it is simply phenomenal. I know a lot of explorers now who are making it their home.
o/ |
Morphisat
Millard Innovation Inc The 20 Minuters
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Posted - 2015.01.10 20:47:48 -
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A recon ship obviously |
Vector Symian
0 Fear
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Posted - 2015.01.11 04:15:54 -
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My suggestion is take a couple of herons first and get the feel for the WH life
cloaking is your friend and will save your hide on many occasion. cove ops is the big momma of cloaks so get that training up asap
- you have to uncloak to launch probes remember to re-cloak before bringing up the map - a safe spot is not enough in here - always glance a Dscan and if you see combat probes check you cloak is still up - never EVER warp to 0 on anything EVER *has forgotten this and been rat blapped an more then one occasion*
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Aiyshimin
Shiva Furnace
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Posted - 2015.01.11 13:44:54 -
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What do you need for whs/low?
Brains and balls.
Be aware that prolonged exposure to the contaminated particles of high security space will shrink both. Go before it's too late.
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