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Info Armer
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.01.07 23:57:02 -
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Hello there!
For awhile now, I have been bored of playing games; I had been searching for a free to play MMO, but then I realized something.
Free to Play MMOS. Suck. They are full of morons, are "pay to win", and get extremely boring after five minutes.
So then, I decided to play EVE, since it was a game with a STEEP learning curve, a mature community, and was jammed packed with new content, and has been running for over 10 years! I have just created my account and have started to delve into the "exploration" tutorials, when I saw that I had 300,000 ISK! I was FILTHY rich! Till I found out how much a plex, ships, and many pieces of the game cost.
Oops, guess I'm not that rich.
So, I am probably going to use this account to learn all of the ropes, but first I have MANY questions to ask! I thank in advance to anybody willing to answer these;
1. What is a good game plan for starting out? What should I do to instantly get money (even to bypass the tutorial?)
2. CAN I bypass the tutorial?
3. As a trial account, what is the easiest way for me to make money WITHOUT doing missions?
4. Even when my account goes AWOL on the game, can i still write on the forums?
5. Can I ask for invites somewhere?
6. I forget the invite information, what is it? 
I will probably keep asking more questions as I get answers. Thank you for being a help to get me started on EVE!
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J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
5348
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Posted - 2015.01.08 00:16:16 -
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1. Do the tutorials. Ask questions...take is slow. Do not think EVE is pay 2 win...you will turn into the next ALOD, but if that is the way you want to play...go ahead.
2. Don't. Seriously...Don't.
3. Buy a PLEX with RL and sell it in game.
4. Nope...well...Active accounts can post. Inactive accounts can't.
5. Waht kind of invites.
6. 
Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded
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Oraac Ensor
597
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Posted - 2015.01.08 00:29:30 -
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First you say that you have recognised EVE as "a game with a STEEP learning curve", then you ask if you can bypass the tutorial.
Eh???
Btw, it's tutorials, plural. |
Velicitia
XS Tech
2705
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Posted - 2015.01.08 00:35:05 -
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J'Poll wrote:1. Do the tutorials. Ask questions...take is slow. Do not think EVE is pay 2 win...you will turn into the next ALOD, but if that is the way you want to play...go ahead. 2. Don't. Seriously...Don't. 3. Buy a PLEX with RL and sell it in game. 4. Nope...well...Active accounts can post. Inactive accounts can't. 5. Waht kind of invites. 6.
Agreed with all this.
And to reiterate - seriously, do the ******* tutorials.
One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
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Eldwinn
SomeWhat SophiSticateD
Shadow Cartel
266
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Posted - 2015.01.08 00:45:14 -
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Info Armer wrote:
1. What is a good game plan for starting out? What should I do to instantly get money (even to bypass the tutorial?)
Do whatever you want.
Info Armer wrote:
2. CAN I bypass the tutorial?
Yes, however as others have pointed out; do the missions.
Info Armer wrote:
3. As a trial account, what is the easiest way for me to make money WITHOUT doing missions?
Whatever. Scam or steal I suppose.
Info Armer wrote:
4. Even when my account goes AWOL on the game, can i still write on the forums?
No.
Info Armer wrote:
5. Can I ask for invites somewhere?
Invites to what exactly? Question 6 is basically the same thing.
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Radimir Dvornikov
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2015.01.08 00:46:28 -
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Hello and welcome to Eve!
1.) Starting out, there are corporations in Eve that are focused on education with audio lectures, powerpoint slides, practicals, a huge number of things. Along with chatting on the forums, these corps would help a lot. If you are simply looking for money, mining may very well be the easiest way to get some ISK without training a lot of skills or having to learn how the economy works.
2.) You can bypass the tutorial, but doing so will prevent you from getting a lot of frigates, a destroyer, a mining frigate, and upwards of 7 million isk. The tutorials are worth the grind. If you want, you can head to Sister Alitura who has an epic line of missions.
3.) I already mentioned mining as a way of making some isk. The way to get the most money is station trading. Buying items at a low price and selling them high. But that is not the most fun way to make money. Other avenues are looking for Data and Relic sites and collecting those materials which does require a lot of skills to be learned to use probes and hack the sites. The really lucrative stuff is in the dangerous parts of space. So don't fly what you can't afford to lose. Or, there is always Planetary Interaction. Where you make structures on planets to harvest their materials, which also does not have a lot of skills to learn.
4.) An expired account is unable to post here.
5.) I'm not too sure what you mean by asking for invites. Do you mean joining a corporation, grouping with a fleet, or adding someone to your watchlist? |
Celine Sophia Maricadie
Tal-Cel Industry and Salvage LLC
222
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Posted - 2015.01.08 00:50:24 -
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Hi and welcome.
1. Make sure you do all the tutorial and career agent missions. You'll get much more ISK than you have, plus many free skills that you'd otherwise have to buy. You'll get some ships and other things, too.
1a. Look at doing the Sisters of Eve Epic Arc, The Blood-Stained Stars, as that will help to get some more ISK and experience while still training up the essential skills.
1b. You'll start to figure out what you like best so far (such as exploration) and you'll want to train skills to start to become effective for those areas that interest you the most. Exercise some patience, as it does take a bit of time to get decent skills. Don't try and do all the things and expect to be even mediocre at them until you've invested the training and time, along with practical experience.
1c. Get involved with newbie friendly groups and find yourself a player corp, and I recommend looking at an educational organization such as Eve University. You don't actually have to join them to get a lot of what they have to offer, such as classes, their public help chat channel (in-game "E-UNI"), and their forums, voice comms, as well as their very good wiki. Getting involved with a good corp and a good group of players is one of the most essential things you can do to get the most out of the game, as well as all sorts of help and resources.
2. You can, but you'll spend exponentially far more time asking questions to figure out how basic things work, not to mention not gaining the material benefits. In short, don't skip any of them.
3. Buying PLEX from CCP (for $$) and then selling the PLEX in-game on the market. You'll need 20 to 30 million in ISK to cover the escrow for placing the sell order, or filling a buy order, and then paying the sales tax, for each PLEX you want to sell. This will net you about 780 million per PLEX at this point. If that's not an option, or you don't want to do that, then you're given the skill and a free mining frigate, called a Venture, Fit it with a couple of mining lasers and go mine some veldspar or scordite. Each ore bay load that you get (which will take you about 25 minutes) should get you around 1 million ISK when you sell the ore on the market. Don't even bother to think about refining it, you'll lose potential ISK. You may find that mining is rather boring, but it's steady income for a new pilot and you can pad your wallet quite nicely. Besides, you'll be awaiting certain skills to get trained up anyway. If you're poking around doing exploring it is possible you could make a huge score with some rare loot, but that is highly unlikely. You need skills, a scanning frigate, modules, rigs, and a fair amount of luck.
3a. Don't consider it realistic in your trial account time that you'll earn enough ISK in-game to be able to buy a PLEX in-game to then use to upgrade your account.
3b. One you're skilled up and have some experience you will find much better ways of earning ISK rather than grinding mining or missions (although missions give other benefits such as standings and Loyalty Points), unless you enjoy those things. Eve is a sandbox, and ultimately you do what you enjoy, and not what others say you should enjoy.
4. Once your account goes inactive you'll not be able to log into the Eve Online forums anymore. You can access all the other forums maintained by player groups that allow you to register on them.
5. Invites to what exactly? If you mean player corps, you can apply to join them in-game but most good corps will have you follow a different process then only using the in-game mechanic to invite you into their corp.
6. See my answer to 5.
Again, welcome aboard. |
Info Armer
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:10:19 -
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What I mean by inviting, is whether or not I can talk/offer to have a buddy invite onto another account.
You see, I am using this account to figure out the game, while I will use the next trial account (hopefully 21 day) to be able to refine upon mistakes.
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Velicitia
XS Tech
2706
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:20:02 -
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Info Armer wrote:What I mean by inviting, is whether or not I can talk/offer to have a buddy invite onto another account.
You see, I am using this account to figure out the game, while I will use the next trial account (hopefully 21 day) to be able to refine upon mistakes.
You can't send invites unless you're a subbed account.
One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
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Celine Sophia Maricadie
Tal-Cel Industry and Salvage LLC
225
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:21:06 -
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Yes, you can get a Buddy Invite. Those are discussed on these forums  here. You don't need to go there exclusively, but they can't be offered/asked on these forums outside of that thread.
The biggest mistake you can make is the time put into this trial only then to have to put in the same time in another trial. It's a vicious cycle and it will probably break your soul. You can't really make any sort of mistake on this character that will hold you back, unless you were to do some things deliberately that would make the character a pariah within the community. |
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Info Armer
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:23:13 -
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Celine Sophia Maricadie wrote:Yes, you can get a Buddy Invite. Those are discussed on these forums here. You don't need to go there exclusively, but they can't be offered/asked on these forums outside of that thread. The biggest mistake you can make is the time put into this trial only then to have to put in the same time in another trial. It's a vicious cycle and it will probably break your soul. You can't really make any sort of mistake on this character that will hold you back, unless you were to do some things deliberately that would make the character a pariah within the community.
Pariah? Like.....  |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Snuffed Out
7024
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:25:41 -
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FYI: "re-rolling" a character is not a thing here in EVE. You are better off sticking with one character and "figuring things out."
The reasons for this are...
- no skills or "specialties" will lock you out from other skills or "specialties." If you decide that whatever you are currently training for is not your thing, you can immediately switch over to a new set of skills. The only things you will have lost are time and money.
- once you have played for a certain amount of time you will begin to branch out skill-wise and do things you never thought you would do before... including things your may have abandoned in the past.
- mistakes happen. You will never be able to create a "perfect character" in EVE. This is not that kind of game. Imagine EVE as a perpetual rat race with no exits, no real objective, other rats armed with nukes, and any cheese that may exist teleports randomly and is full of razor blades.
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
"How did you veterans start?"
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Celine Sophia Maricadie
Tal-Cel Industry and Salvage LLC
229
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:28:25 -
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Info Armer wrote:Celine Sophia Maricadie wrote:Yes, you can get a Buddy Invite. Those are discussed on these forums here. You don't need to go there exclusively, but they can't be offered/asked on these forums outside of that thread. The biggest mistake you can make is the time put into this trial only then to have to put in the same time in another trial. It's a vicious cycle and it will probably break your soul. You can't really make any sort of mistake on this character that will hold you back, unless you were to do some things deliberately that would make the character a pariah within the community. Pariah? Like.....
Corp thief, scamming (which could be a good way to earn ISK outside of missions), AWOXing (using the intra-corp aggression mechanics allowing you to destroy corp mates in non-NPC corps without CONCORD intervention), using the character as a suicide ganker, etc. If you make enough of a bad reputation in the character's name you won't be able to get anywhere with the character in a social sense, such as in getting into player corps and such. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Snuffed Out
7025
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Posted - 2015.01.08 01:33:50 -
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Actually... the best way to become a "pariah" in EVE is to have a mouth and ego bigger than your brain.
EVE players take special pleasure in "destroying" such players... using methods that would be illegal in other games but are perfectly acceptable here (within "reason").
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
"How did you veterans start?"
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Jurico Elemenohpe
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
72
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Posted - 2015.01.08 02:01:34 -
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By invite I assume you mean buddy invites..
go to reddit.com/r/evenewbies and click the link at the top. |
Info Armer
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.01.08 02:03:25 -
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Okay, link to suicide ganking please? :)
And, I'll be on tomorrow night with thousands of new questions, thank you for explaining all of this to me! |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
245
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Posted - 2015.01.08 04:31:23 -
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a couple tips:
Eve is not a min/max game. There is no best in slot there is no elitist jerks for eve. Eve is all about doing more with less. You have everything that you need to be helpful and useful from day one in this game. Give up any ideas that you have about maxing anything out and just do what you like and have fun.
The best ship in Eve is friendship. This game is a true MMO in that it is not meant to be played alone. Make friends and find a decent corp to join that is new player friendly.
Early on you will probably want to focus on combat skills for small ships. You can make more isk / hour doing combat than mining and any of the industrial isk making ventures usually require a bit of understand of how the game works that a new player just does not have regardless of skill points.
Bigger is not better many old vets will tell you that they fly smaller ships more often as they are more fun to fly. Don't rush into a Battleship there is no need nor any benefit in doing so.
You can skip the tutorial but they are a quicker and easier way to learn than running to the new player forum every time that you have a question. If you have friends in game that can answer questions for you then potentially you could skip the tutorials.
This is a game. Figure out what you have fun doing then find a way to make isk doing that. You can make isk doing pretty much anything.
I am sensing here that you are implying that you would like to figure out how to pay for game time with a PLEX with in your 21 day trial. A lot of new players ask about that here and it's a bad idea. If you can even make it happen it will turn this game into a job in the literal sense. Yes free to play games suck so pay the $10.88 to $15 per month it costs and just have fun. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Snuffed Out
7025
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Posted - 2015.01.08 04:33:29 -
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Info Armer wrote:Okay, link to suicide ganking please? :)
There are too many things to link. It is easier to just give you the gist of it.
Suicide Ganking is the act of attacking and blowing up a ship (in 1.0 to 0.5 space) before the NPC police (CONCORD) can blow them up.
Generally, people who Suicide Gank are after profit (there is a 50% chance for each module or cargo item to drop as loot)... so they will use the cheapest ship with the gankiest fit possible (Catalysts (Gallente Destroyers) are popular for this).
Of course, there are those who do it for "fun"... profit be damned.
Things to know about Suicide Ganking:
- gankers are after the "squishiest" and/or most "profitable" targets available. Try to be less "squishy" and/or "profitable" than the guy next to you.
- being "profitable" is variable. It depends on how big your tank it, how many ganker ships are needed to break said tank, and what the value of all your ships mods/cargo are worth.
(NOTE: yes, doing some math is required)
- Suicide Gankers will always lose the ships they gank with. No exceptions. They will even lose them if the gank attempt is unsuccessful.
Avoiding NPC retribution is considered an exploit and can result in a ban.
- NPCs are not designed to save or protect players. They are only a punitive force. GMs will also not reimburse victims for their losses.
- all of the above only applies in "high-security" systems. In low-sec, there are no NPCs
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
"How did you veterans start?"
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Chal0ner
Coreli Corporation
The Kadeshi
91
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Posted - 2015.01.08 05:14:30 -
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ergherhdfgh wrote:a couple tips:
Eve is not a min/max game. There is no best in slot there is no elitist jerks for eve.
That kind of depends on what you mean by "elitist jerk". I've flown with what a lot of people considered "elitist jerks" because they believed their fits (which where extremely tight with nearly max skills) where believed to be "the best" and they expected everyone to strictly follow their doctrines. Or not join fleet.
While in fleet they were really nice guys.
Anyway, that is one extreme - then most corps/alliances are not "elitist jerks" at all. On the other side of the scale you have extremely newbie friendly corps/alliances like RvB, Eve Uni and (so i hear) Brave. Middle ground would be Test and Goons with their "newbro" fleets I guess. These are of course mainly pvp examples - because I know that world the best after living in it for most of my active game time (Brave started when I was inactive).
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J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
5355
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Posted - 2015.01.08 10:22:41 -
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Ooh this will end bad.
If you use a trial just so you start another trial...you will end up scrapping a lot of characters.
Because, you will **** up a character at one point. Beauty of EVE is that nothing stops you from playing further and go a different direction.
So stop wasting this trial to get another trial. Use your time to have fun and learn as you go. Hell, you wont lear EVE even if you daisy chained 5 x 21 day trials, EVE is that big
Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded
Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
8359
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Posted - 2015.01.08 10:39:45 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:Actually... the best way to become a "pariah" in EVE is to have a mouth and ego bigger than your brain.
EVE players take special pleasure in "destroying" such players... using methods that would be illegal in other games but are perfectly acceptable here (within "reason").
This is something we like to do, we will kill random innocent people for the sins of some mouth piece and make all parties aware publicly. We do this for fun mind, we are actually mercenaries but will terrorize in our free time to ensure that things said on the forums have consequences in game, both for the safety of random bears and for the conscience of the mouth piece.
Further details.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Velicitia
XS Tech
2709
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Posted - 2015.01.09 10:15:16 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:ShahFluffers wrote:Actually... the best way to become a "pariah" in EVE is to have a mouth and ego bigger than your brain.
EVE players take special pleasure in "destroying" such players... using methods that would be illegal in other games but are perfectly acceptable here (within "reason"). This is something we like to do, we will kill random innocent people for the sins of some mouth piece and make all parties aware publicly. We do this for fun mind, we are actually mercenaries but will terrorize in our free time to ensure that things said on the forums have consequences in game, both for the safety of random bears and for the conscience of the mouth piece. Further details.
Kill it forward is such a great idea.
I should really get in on that.
One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
8359
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Posted - 2015.01.09 11:10:33 -
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Velicitia wrote:[quote=Ralph King-Griffin]
Kill it forward is such a great idea.
I should really get in on that.
Feyd has an open policy regarding The Order Of The Glowing Dildo.
For any newbros who haven't seen it yet, the Carebear to Killer program ,
see link in my Sig for end results.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
=]I[=
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Tsukino Stareine
Serene Vendetta
Brawls Deep
815
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Posted - 2015.01.09 11:39:50 -
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There is only one reason to reroll a character and that's if you join certain corporations that might mean other corporations will not hire you in the future |
Deck Cadelanne
Exigent Circumstances
CAStabouts
118
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Posted - 2015.01.09 12:45:00 -
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Info Armer wrote:What I mean by inviting, is whether or not I can talk/offer to have a buddy invite onto another account.
You see, I am using this account to figure out the game, while I will use the next trial account (hopefully 21 day) to be able to refine upon mistakes.
Why?
Mistakes are how you learn. Starting over is simply throwing away the skillpoints you have accumulated for no good reason.
You can "start over" as many times as you like without ever throwing away a character. Just change your mind about what you want to do, start training those skills and carry on.
If some corp won't accept your character because of something in the character's history, find a different corp. There are plenty to choose from.
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn professional."
- Hunter S. Thompson
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J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
5383
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Posted - 2015.01.09 13:23:43 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:There is only one reason to reroll a character and that's if you join certain corporations that might mean other corporations will not hire you in the future
HAHAHAHA
That is so NOT true.
Hell, if a corp declines you just cause you been in corp "x"...you don't want to be in such a corp anyway.
They are WAY to paranoid and don't value their members for who they are, but only look at some history sheet not your actual actions.
Hell, as a recruiter, I was always less afraid of someone with a "bad corp" in their history then those with NO corp history at all. The ones with the bad corp in his history, you at least knew that you had to be careful. It's the real covert people you have to be afraid about.
But you clearly are as dumb as most other recruiters and only think spy when he is obviously been in another corp you don't like, and anybody who hasn't got those corps on their list, can't possibly be related
Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded
Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
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Jak Teiru
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2015.01.09 14:18:49 -
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IMHO, the best way to start (which I did a couple of weeks ago) was to accept a Buddy Invite. Day 1 into my 21-day trial, my bank account was over 700 million. You can buy a whole bunch of skill books with that kind of scratch.
I'm messing around with missions for now and learning my way around with little difficulty. Why? Because I did all of the career missions. I would not even think to start tooling around EVE without having done them.
Yes, Eve has a steep learning curve. My advice is to start climbing. There are tons of video tutorials on YouTube, and the Eve UniWiki is my friend. Go find some skill plans for various occupations (my main is working on PvP survival skills).
Furthermore, make sure you keep an eye on what CCP is offering. I think the free 20-day alt training offer is still on the table. I'm using this to train my alt in PI (real easy) and "run away and survive" skills to generate passive ISK to transfer to my main character to fund the inevitable PvP losses.
One last thing: DO THE TUTORIALS. Yes, I said it twice for a reason. You will get a decent mining ability out of the deal and will be able to make a couple of million ISK per hour in RELATIVE safety. Mining is pretty boring though.... |
Tsukino Stareine
Serene Vendetta
Brawls Deep
815
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Posted - 2015.01.09 14:28:23 -
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J'Poll wrote:Tsukino Stareine wrote:There is only one reason to reroll a character and that's if you join certain corporations that might mean other corporations will not hire you in the future HAHAHAHA That is so NOT true. Hell, if a corp declines you just cause you been in corp "x"...you don't want to be in such a corp anyway. They are WAY to paranoid and don't value their members for who they are, but only look at some history sheet not your actual actions. Hell, as a recruiter, I was always less afraid of someone with a "bad corp" in their history then those with NO corp history at all. The ones with the bad corp in his history, you at least knew that you had to be careful. It's the real covert people you have to be afraid about. But you clearly are as dumb as most other recruiters and only think spy when he is obviously been in another corp you don't like, and anybody who hasn't got those corps on their list, can't possibly be related
not talking about spies as such, I think U-MAD has a policy of not recruiting anyone who has been in EVE Uni at any point or some such as that.
It's more about elitcism if nothing else. |
J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
5383
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Posted - 2015.01.09 15:00:36 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:J'Poll wrote:Tsukino Stareine wrote:There is only one reason to reroll a character and that's if you join certain corporations that might mean other corporations will not hire you in the future HAHAHAHA That is so NOT true. Hell, if a corp declines you just cause you been in corp "x"...you don't want to be in such a corp anyway. They are WAY to paranoid and don't value their members for who they are, but only look at some history sheet not your actual actions. Hell, as a recruiter, I was always less afraid of someone with a "bad corp" in their history then those with NO corp history at all. The ones with the bad corp in his history, you at least knew that you had to be careful. It's the real covert people you have to be afraid about. But you clearly are as dumb as most other recruiters and only think spy when he is obviously been in another corp you don't like, and anybody who hasn't got those corps on their list, can't possibly be related not talking about spies as such, I think U-MAD has a policy of not recruiting anyone who has been in EVE Uni at any point or some such as that. It's more about elitcism if nothing else.
Then, you just laugh at them...and remind them of the mistake they make and then go find a better corp.
Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded
Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
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Tsukino Stareine
Serene Vendetta
Brawls Deep
815
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Posted - 2015.01.09 15:48:16 -
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Oh don't get me wrong, I fully agree with the fact that corps who judge your history aren't worth joining. I was just putting it out there in case OP want's to be a high sec wardeccing hero. |
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