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Ermenegildo Zenya
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Posted - 2003.10.22 01:04:00 -
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I was the happiest person to find out  the possibility to use "in-space parking deep into wildlands" for changing ships without returning to the nearest station [15j] every time i need to haul what i have mined.
But than something bad happend more than one time  - several restarts in last weeks made my parked ships dissapear. Thankfully they were only industrials but even that made me a little mad and for now I don't trust that way of leaving ships - which made my life a lot harder now. 
Can someone tell me is it back SAFE parking ships in space and can assure me that no downtime or unexpected restart will make me lose more wealth
"Log-in trap" is baaad, mkay?
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Nightm4re
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Posted - 2003.10.22 03:05:00 -
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i jacked em. thx btw, nice expanders.
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Ermenegildo Zenya
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Posted - 2003.10.22 07:04:00 -
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Yeah i am curious how u obtained bookmarks to my midspace area...
I thought only reasonalbe responses here on that forum - pity i was wrong.
"Log-in trap" is baaad, mkay?
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sutty
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Posted - 2003.10.22 07:11:00 -
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well If you want to be REALLY sad. you can spend some hours using the scanner on directional 2 mwd's and using mini warps dropping bookmarks on the way to find them. then bookmark there area :D
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slothe
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Posted - 2003.10.22 08:05:00 -
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well i hope they werent bestowers because i blew san up in one.
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W1rlW1nd
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Posted - 2003.10.22 14:02:00 -
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ermengildo- sorry about the loss of your ships.
But FYI: if you parked them at some random point between two warp targets (like by running your cap down and warping to some random position) then it would be extremely easy for anyone find your location and through a process of scanning and warping techniques (which i won't mention), get another ship there even without a mwd.
it is also easy to see when a ship has been hidden in a system since it will show up on the scanner, but the owner is not in local- that means an abandoned ship.
you probably need a better way to randomize the location of your stash to make it difficult to find. But even then, depending on where you choose it can still be triangulated down and located by an experienced and determined player with a several mwd's.
despite all the patches and server downs, ships that we know of have remained in space for months and are still there right now, so it is likely that (as a previous poster suggested) they've been nicked.
this is kinda a heads up for others who think hiding ships at random warp points is safe-- it is not and never has been. There are expert navigators/trackers in eve, and you will have to decide if it is worth the risk.
be safe-
-w1rl
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Nightm4re
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Posted - 2003.10.22 14:22:00 -
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slothe imho ur too happy about that one =)
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Ermenegildo Zenya
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Posted - 2003.10.22 16:46:00 -
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Edited by: Ermenegildo Zenya on 22/10/2003 16:48:33
Thanks for the complete info about that issue - So if it's about being nicked - okay if it's one of the rules i will get on with it and be more careful in the future.
I was thinking it's the server's problem cos both dissapearings happen straight after a downtime or an unexpected restarts of Tranq.
Slothe it depends where u were "hunting" cos i think destroying industrials left in space is sth silly - when u know that it's really far from the nearest station. Maybe someone just wanted to make his life a little easier :) But not everyone has the same set of ethic rules :) do we??
"Log-in trap" is baaad, mkay?
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LocalHost
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Posted - 2003.12.15 03:19:00 -
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I have done the same thing. But leaving the ship for more than 24 hours is a bad idea.
It will be found.
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Chris
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Posted - 2003.12.15 03:27:00 -
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You spending tonight reading two months worth of posts? You must be ver disciplined :)
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2003.12.15 03:33:00 -
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I scored a few cruisers and indies by triangulating their position. Doesn't take too long and usually you get nice modules and rare expanders.
Most of it was just plain abandonned because I remember seeing some of it for weeks without the pilot even logging on till I decided to go find it.
Had a bookmark in the cargo named "too much time on your hands" which I thought was amusing.
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Roba
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Posted - 2003.12.15 07:10:00 -
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ermengildo- sorry about the loss of your ships.
But FYI: if you parked them at some random point between two warp targets (like by running your cap down and warping to some random position) then it would be extremely easy for anyone find your location and through a process of scanning and warping techniques (which i won't mention), get another ship there even without a mwd.
it is also easy to see when a ship has been hidden in a system since it will show up on the scanner, but the owner is not in local- that means an abandoned ship.
you probably need a better way to randomize the location of your stash to make it difficult to find. But even then, depending on where you choose it can still be triangulated down and located by an experienced and determined player with a several mwd's.
despite all the patches and server downs, ships that we know of have remained in space for months and are still there right now, so it is likely that (as a previous poster suggested) they've been nicked.
this is kinda a heads up for others who think hiding ships at random warp points is safe-- it is not and never has been. There are expert navigators/trackers in eve, and you will have to decide if it is worth the risk.
be safe-
-w1rl
You can ditch outa warp at a spot that is almost impossible to reach. Even if the ship gets scanned.
You need 2 ppl to do this. look at the map of the system and find two points and a spot where no warps cross it. (or close to it)
Then have your buddy warp then gang warp to him when he crosses that point.
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Princeton
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Posted - 2003.12.15 07:29:00 -
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We lost a ship that way once. When we returned after a trip it wasnt parked where we left it. After scanning we found it near an asteroid belt drifting. Once we approached it the pirates attacked it and it was destroyed. So needless to say we dont abandon ships anymore.
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Psy Corp
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Posted - 2003.12.15 08:19:00 -
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i think there was some bugg that mayde ships you leave dissapear thats being fixed in todays patch.. but i dont know..i never leave ships anywhere...
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pooti
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Posted - 2003.12.15 08:32:00 -
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well If you want to be REALLY sad. you can spend some hours using the scanner on directional 2 mwd's and using mini warps dropping bookmarks on the way to find them. then bookmark there area :D
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I've done it before, it can be sorta fun. Except when it takes like hours.
Lesson: if you want it, don't abandon it.
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FileCop AI
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Posted - 2003.12.15 10:49:00 -
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Well, take for instance a system in stain where I hang around. There's 3-4 noob ships showing up in scanner, and they have done so for like a month or more. So they sure didn't disappear.
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.12.15 11:00:00 -
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As File said.
I've seen MANY systems in which there have been n00bships parked in safespots for MONTHS.
But if you know how to make really good safespots It's almost certain that none will find it, cause finding it would take hours of gameplay.
Finding n00bs is a different story. I've done that several times...
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Thrak
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Posted - 2003.12.15 11:02:00 -
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You need 2 ppl to do this. look at the map of the system and find two points and a spot where no warps cross it. (or close to it)
Then have your buddy warp then gang warp to him when he crosses that point.
If you can scan it, you can find it. in this example you would find the approximate area then do the warp that the 'buddy' did and drop 5 or so bookmarks during warp. Check each one, find between which 2 it is, the drop a bookmark between, rinse repeat you'll be within 500k in no time.
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Fester Addams
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Posted - 2003.12.15 12:04:00 -
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There is a bug in wich a parket ship moves over downtime, I dont know what triggers the bug but it has happened to me.
I logged out just before downtime with the drifting ship in view, when I logged on aprox 65 min later my ship was gone.
After som searching I loacted my ship som 2 bilion km away in deep space.
I petitioned to have the ship moved to where I could get to it but the GM that went to the site found no drifting ship, this was odd as I could still spot it on my scanner.
I supose I could have fitted a ship with MWD's and trekked there from the closest celestial object but I decided it just wasnt worth it and in a week my ship was replaced by a shuttle.
In short, someone had salvaged the ship, I hope it came to good use for them.
The important thing is I learned from the experience, I nolonger leave ships in deep space as I cant trust them to remain and I consider all deep space bookmarks compromized from day 2 if there is anything at the location.
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Oveur
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Posted - 2003.12.15 12:57:00 -
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Leaving your ship alone in midspace is and will never be safe.
However, in Shiva, the Tech Level 3 patch scheduled for early next year will include things such as a hangar bay that you can put into space.
It ain't safe, people can still scan it - like they can scan for your empty ships - but safer 
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