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Morkt Drakt	Posted - 2003.10.22 18:24:00 - [1] Has anybody completed and received more than one BP? This is for either the same agent, same faction, or different agent, different faction? (eg Caldari faction BP and minmatar faction BP?)
dalman	Posted - 2003.10.22 21:14:00 - [2] You're not receiving "your" Miner 2 BP? M.I.A. since 2004-07-30
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2003.10.22 21:51:00 - [3] Screw Morkt, where's mine? 300 missions and nothing, I got people skills dammet!! Convert Stations
Darklogan	Posted - 2003.10.23 08:34:00 - [4] Anyone receiceved a BP from Ishukone Corporation? I'm going for 400 (all after implants patch) and nothing.
Morkt Drakt	Posted - 2003.10.23 13:28:00 - [5] Edited by: Morkt Drak on 23/10/2003 13:29:05 Quote: Screw Morkt, where's mine? 300 missions and nothing, I got people skills dammet!! Cant find anybody who has completed two BP missions so far... some are over 400 mission on second faction... So folks are beginning to wonder if the entire sysstem is borked and limited to one bp mission per player.
Falnaerith	Posted - 2003.10.23 16:41:00 - [6] If it is, won't matter for much longer. ------------------- Basic truths? Idiots make us rich. - Some people are only alive because it is illegal to kill them.
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2003.10.23 17:40:00 - [7] That's 300+ post patch. Convert Stations
Morkt Drakt	Posted - 2003.10.23 17:47:00 - [8] Quote: If it is, won't matter for much longer. indeed. it doesnt make a bug not a bug though (if it is a bug)
Morkt Drakt	Posted - 2003.10.23 17:56:00 - [9] bah just worked out how this may be a bug but not th eone i thought it was - would also explain why some folks are having to do an exceptionally large number of missions to get a bp.. more if i confirm it (later tonight prolly)
Ryes Ammal	Posted - 2003.10.23 18:46:00 - [10] Edited by: Ryes Ammal on 23/10/2003 18:55:55 I don't see evidence that anyone is having to do an exceptionally large number of missions to get a BP. Looks to me like you either get one by 350 or you won't get one at all. Collecting data to confirm or dispute this idea at: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=39907 ----- Eve - the place where is pays to be lucky to get ahead. But don't count on hard work my friend. It is no substitute for a +20 luckstone.
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2003.10.23 18:53:00 - [11] Fubar then. Convert Stations
Gunni	Posted - 2003.10.23 19:11:00 - [12] afaik there is only 1 bp/person... ------------------------------------- Gunni Viziam
Morkt Drakt	Posted - 2003.10.23 21:24:00 - [13] Quote: afaik there is only 1 bp/person... Actually dev said 1 BP per agent previously. My question is more whther or not we can show that that is working i.e. that someone has gotten more than 1 BP per character.
Morkt Drakt	Posted - 2003.10.23 21:27:00 - [14] Quote: Edited by: Ryes Ammal on 23/10/2003 18:55:55 I don't see evidence that anyone is having to do an exceptionally large number of missions to get a BP. Looks to me like you either get one by 350 or you won't get one at all. Collecting data to confirm or dispute this idea at: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=39907 Ah well we know that isnt right already Ryes. You can do up to 500 missions to hit the agent standing cap which is what triggers the %chance to be ofered the BP Mission. Devs making statements such as "Celestially colloasal bad luck" (sorry GMs saying that) doesnt really help much though. It would be nice for a DEV to specifically investigate one of these incidents and give some reassurence that it either is 1 per Agent, 1 per faction, 1 per chracter and whether or not thesew ith extended mission counts are plain unlucky or fubar'd due to a bug. /em looks askance at Papa/Zrakor
Ryes Ammal	Posted - 2003.10.23 22:35:00 - [15] Edited by: Ryes Ammal on 23/10/2003 22:46:07 I'll put is this way: You might have some formula predicting that BPs could theoretically be received up to 500 mission or the Devs might have made statements to that effect, but that doesn't mean it really is working that way for everyone. Devs are frequently mistaken about how their code is actually functioning. Point out to me some real person who got a BP after 450 (or 400, or 350 even) post-implant missions. If you can point to some solid data, I will happily revise my opinion. Otherwise I will go by the empirical results which are all that counts in practical terms. I am working for an agent who has already denied others to the tune of 450 and counting. Personally I am at 293 and by using your formula I came out with a projection of 320 (.0624 corp faction increase per mission, Cha 13 Soc 4). So I shall see soon enough. I really do hope I am wrong, but I fear the worse. ----- Eve - the place where is pays to be lucky to get ahead. But don't count on hard work my friend. It is no substitute for a +20 luckstone.
Xtra Bitter	Posted - 2003.10.23 22:54:00 - [16] Quote: Quote: Edited by: Ryes Ammal on 23/10/2003 18:55:55 I don't see evidence that anyone is having to do an exceptionally large number of missions to get a BP. Looks to me like you either get one by 350 or you won't get one at all. Collecting data to confirm or dispute this idea at: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=39907 Ah well we know that isnt right already Ryes. You can do up to 500 missions to hit the agent standing cap which is what triggers the %chance to be ofered the BP Mission. Devs making statements such as "Celestially colloasal bad luck" (sorry GMs saying that) doesnt really help much though. It would be nice for a DEV to specifically investigate one of these incidents and give some reassurence that it either is 1 per Agent, 1 per faction, 1 per chracter and whether or not thesew ith extended mission counts are plain unlucky or fubar'd due to a bug. /em looks askance at Papa/Zrakor Well since im waiting for a reply on my petition as to why i have 2 Medicore Reubplic Fleet agents and cant get referred to a better one despite doing 456 and 120 mission for each respectively i wouldnt hold your breath on that. Hell i cant even find someone to tell me when to expect a reply 5 days and counting.
Morkt Drakt	Posted - 2003.10.23 23:47:00 - [17] Quote: Edited by: Ryes Ammal on 23/10/2003 22:46:07 I'll put is this way: You might have some formula predicting that BPs could theoretically be received up to 500 mission or the Devs might have made statements to that effect, but that doesn't mean it really is working that way for everyone. Devs are frequently mistaken about how their code is actually functioning. Point out to me some real person who got a BP after 450 (or 400, or 350 even) post-implant missions. If you can point to some solid data, I will happily revise my opinion. Otherwise I will go by the empirical results which are all that counts in practical terms. I am working for an agent who has already denied others to the tune of 450 and counting. Personally I am at 293 and by using your formula I came out with a projection of 320 (.0624 corp faction increase per mission, Cha 13 Soc 4). So I shall see soon enough. I really do hope I am wrong, but I fear the worse. AHA! - Ok, yeah i (so far) totally agree... data from players suggests its 350 or busted. Personally if it is supposed to be a % roll after XXX succesful missions then it looks like if ya roll a fail it keeps on rolling fails. wouldn't be the first time i've seen that (fail flag is stuck: ON)
j0sephine	Posted - 2003.10.24 02:54:00 - [18] Edited by: j0sephine on 24/10/2003 02:57:47 "Actually dev said 1 BP per agent previously." ... I wonder if "1 BP per agent" means "only one (first to meet conditions) player out of the whole group of people doing mission for this particular agent will receive the BP" Would explain why more and more people don't receive 'their' reward -- they do mission for agents who already gave the single BP they had, to someone faster... o.O (would also effectively limit the number of blueprints in circulation which is not a bad idea when you think about it)
Smooth	Posted - 2003.10.24 06:36:00 - [19] Quote: ... I wonder if "1 BP per agent" means "only one (first to meet conditions) player out of the whole group of people doing mission for this particular agent will receive the BP" I like the idea but I know for a fact that its not so. The agent I work for has a good supply of BPs, I know of two people who got their BPs from her.
j0sephine	Posted - 2003.10.24 13:31:00 - [20] "The agent I work for has a good supply of BPs, I know of two people who got their BPs from her." Ahh, cool; 'twas just an idea, (one which would cause quite an uproar if turned out to be true, i figure) good to see it settled so quick =)
Morkt Drakt	Posted - 2003.10.24 17:02:00 - [21] Ya - stil leaves the orginal problem/question though
Shevar	Posted - 2003.10.24 22:19:00 - [22] See my other posts on the subject from what i see on the forums people saying they dont receive bps seem to be not of the same race as they are doing their agents for.. -------- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
Morkt Drakt	Posted - 2003.10.24 22:51:00 - [23] Quote: See my other posts on the subject from what i see on the forums people saying they dont receive bps seem to be not of the same race as they are doing their agents for.. As there isnt a search function.. links may be helpful. Then again ... do you not think that there might jsut be a "tiny little" outcry if such a black and white line were drawn between what you can and cant do... or, how about, why then do i get implants? Or - whats the point in having a faction system if I am excluded by race from the verys tart?
Shevar	Posted - 2003.10.24 22:54:00 - [24] I really wouldnt know i only know i see alot of people complaining that they are not getting a bp from a faction they are not part off. And I havent seen anyone complain about who sticked with his faction. So if you count up one and one... (i got my miner2 bp at 251 missions so im not complaining ) -------- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
Morkt Drakt	Posted - 2003.10.24 22:57:00 - [25] Its entirely plausible - incredibly stupid if so, not just stupid but "OMG HOW DUMB ARE YOU PEOPLE?!" stupid.. possibly enough for me to even cancel my account stupid. Comes back to the entire aspect of "It isnt 'fun' to spend hundreds of hours going nowhere just because the documentation is ****e." One owuld like to think CCP arent this stupid but unfortunately they have "previous" for it..
Morkt Drakt	Posted - 2003.10.24 22:58:00 - [26] Quote: I really wouldnt know i only know i see alot of people complaining that they are not getting a bp from a faction they are not part off. And I havent seen anyone complain about who sticked with his faction. So if you count up one and one... (i got my miner2 bp at 251 missions so im not complaining ) BTW - you are wrong: "Ring" is a Caldari who got the Miner II BP yesterday.

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