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Sakamoto Maya
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Posted - 2006.09.20 12:08:00 -
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Where you finish a skill training but find out that it does not give you the skill level you just trained. So you have to start over.
How often does this bug occur? It hit me twice now. I'm a 9 mil SP char.
And how long does the petition will take ? Do GMs help you with this problem or it is so common that they don't care?
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Karox Lominax
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Posted - 2006.09.20 12:40:00 -
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I've had that happen once.
I just started training the next skill I planned (i.e. hope you didnt want to train the immediate next level) and then continued for the rest of the evening.
When I logged back in the next day, the skill was credited where it should be.
Not sure if a simple log out/log in will solve it, or if you need a physical server reset, but the skill does get credited even though it didnt appear to be the case.
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Jiekon
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Posted - 2006.09.20 12:50:00 -
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if this happens, first log out and log back in and see if it's a display bug, if not, please send an exploit petition (as this is a potentially serious issue) and file a bug report.
train another skill as though the one you just trained has finsiehd. If you can give us bug reports with log files when this happens it would be great so we can look into it and see what is causing this.
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Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Euphoria Released
Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.09.20 12:54:00 -
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another good tip would be - wait 'til after next downtime ...
had this twice so far .. both times the level appeared after the next downtime (it's the same issue like with trader-orders that end and the item in question doesn't show up in your assets ... after the next downtime it normally shows up)
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Sakamoto Maya
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Posted - 2006.09.20 13:00:00 -
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 Originally by: Jiekon
if this happens, first log out and log back in and see if it's a display bug, if not, please send an exploit petition (as this is a potentially serious issue) and file a bug report.
train another skill as though the one you just trained has finsiehd. If you can give us bug reports with log files when this happens it would be great so we can look into it and see what is causing this.
How do I give you a log file? This happened 2 days ago though. I petitioned it right the way , but not under exploit. I'll petition again under expliot this time.
Thank you for your help.
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Enotz
Amarr
Terminus Est Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.09.20 22:57:00 -
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I've heard this one before. Try clicking "Train Skill" again, and stopping it
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Gaius Sejanus
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2006.09.21 07:54:00 -
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Seen lots of complaints about this in corporate chat. Tends to happen most often when skill training finishes while you are dock/undocking/jumping. I now go out of my way to avoid doing any of those things when a skill is nearly done.
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2006.09.21 08:55:00 -
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Originally by: Gaius Sejanus
Seen lots of complaints about this in corporate chat. Tends to happen most often when skill training finishes while you are dock/undocking/jumping. I now go out of my way to avoid doing any of those things when a skill is nearly done.
Well considering it's just a display bug... and one that's been around for a long time in various forms. I wouldn't think too much of it. Just relog when it happens and all should be well. Never heard of that not fixing it.
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Eilie
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.09.21 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: Jiekon
if this happens, first log out and log back in and see if it's a display bug, if not, please send an exploit petition (as this is a potentially serious issue) and file a bug report.
train another skill as though the one you just trained has finsiehd. If you can give us bug reports with log files when this happens it would be great so we can look into it and see what is causing this.
OMFG! This must be the first dev post in the skills forum in... well atleast a year! Tell the other devs to look at this forum sometimes too. There's alot of good ideas for new skills like smartbomb specialization and stuff here... 
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Lache Malaxoru
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.09.21 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Gariuys
Originally by: Gaius Sejanus
Seen lots of complaints about this in corporate chat. Tends to happen most often when skill training finishes while you are dock/undocking/jumping. I now go out of my way to avoid doing any of those things when a skill is nearly done.
Well considering it's just a display bug... and one that's been around for a long time in various forms. I wouldn't think too much of it. Just relog when it happens and all should be well. Never heard of that not fixing it.
Unfortunately I clicked to train the skill again and it did train again.
Now that is a bug!
A display bug would have not allowed me to train a skill from lvl 2 to lvl 3 a second time.
Yep, good thing it does not happen often, at least I has not happened on my new char and only once on Lache.
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CptEagle
Gallente
Stargate Command...
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Posted - 2006.09.21 14:25:00 -
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Yes had that a few days ago too, I finished a skill from 83% to 100%, but its kept sitting on completion imminent. So I clicked abort training to see if that helped, then it was back at 83%. I logged, no change. But after the next down time the skill was complete.
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Jiekon
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Posted - 2006.09.21 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: Eilie
Originally by: Jiekon
if this happens, first log out and log back in and see if it's a display bug, if not, please send an exploit petition (as this is a potentially serious issue) and file a bug report.
train another skill as though the one you just trained has finsiehd. If you can give us bug reports with log files when this happens it would be great so we can look into it and see what is causing this.
OMFG! This must be the first dev post in the skills forum in... well atleast a year! Tell the other devs to look at this forum sometimes too. There's alot of good ideas for new skills like smartbomb specialization and stuff here...
Call it a hunch, but if you want to post ideas, maybe a good place to start would be This Category the only reason i posted here was i was at home flicking thru the forums and this happens to be a known issue.
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Par'Gellen
Gallente
Low Grade Ore
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Posted - 2006.09.21 15:58:00 -
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This has happened to me numberous times and is easy to reproduce. Before anyone attacks me, yes, I HAVE submitted detailed bug reports on it on more than one occasion over the course of three years but nothing has ever been done about it so I gave up 
Now that we have a dev's attention I'll detail the reproduction steps here in hopes that he'll come back and read them. It's pretty simple to reproduce really just requires a little timing. Here are the steps:
1. Get ship in position to dock, undock, or jump.
2. Wait for the skill to reach 2 to 3 seconds left before it completes.
3. Dock, undock, or jump.
If the skill completes while in the middle of the dock, undock, or jump then when you open your character sheet you will not see the new skill level. If you start training the skill again you will lose any skill points and time that you devoted to the level that just completed. This is not a display bug as I have unfortunately personally verified on several occasions. Luckilly this has never happened to me while training a skill to level 4 or 5. I've had it bite me up to level 3's though 
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Jiekon
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Posted - 2006.09.21 16:36:00 -
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i don't see a bug report from you with a log server of this happening. Like i have said so many times, posting ont eh forums is not the best
way to contact us.
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Par'Gellen
Gallente
Low Grade Ore
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Posted - 2006.09.21 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Jiekon
i don't see a bug report from you with a log server of this happening. Like i have said so many times, posting ont eh forums is not the best way to contact us.
Check the bug reports from about 2 years ago or the one's right after Exodus. That's when i submitted them.
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Jiekon
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Posted - 2006.09.21 17:39:00 -
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Seeing as it's such a pain to get log files for this bug, i reproduced it on our test server.
Well, i tried to reproduce it, but the skill trained as expected. No loss in skill points or training time.
Be aware, this is the ONLY time i will do a bug report from the forum, if you wish to have something tested for bugs, you should use the bug reporting form, a link is in my sig.
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Par'Gellen
Gallente
Low Grade Ore
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Posted - 2006.09.21 18:14:00 -
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Edited by: Par''Gellen on 21/09/2006 18:14:55
Originally by: Jiekon
Seeing as it's such a pain to get log files for this bug, i reproduced it on our test server.
Well, i tried to reproduce it, but the skill trained as expected. No loss in skill points or training time.
Be aware, this is the ONLY time i will do a bug report from the forum, if you wish to have something tested for bugs, you should use the bug reporting form, a link is in my sig.
Thanks! You rock man! I think I have a couple of skills on my test server account that are a few minutes to completion. I'll load up the logger and see if I can get it for you when I get home. As I said, timing is the key.
Edit: I should buy a dictionary implant...
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Kor Tei
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Posted - 2006.09.21 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Par'Gellen
Edited by: Par''Gellen on 21/09/2006 18:14:55
Originally by: Jiekon
Seeing as it's such a pain to get log files for this bug, i reproduced it on our test server.
Well, i tried to reproduce it, but the skill trained as expected. No loss in skill points or training time.
Be aware, this is the ONLY time i will do a bug report from the forum, if you wish to have something tested for bugs, you should use the bug reporting form, a link is in my sig.
Thanks! You rock man! I think I have a couple of skills on my test server account that are a few minutes to completion. I'll load up the logger and see if I can get it for you when I get home. As I said, timing is the key.
Edit: I should buy a dictionary implant...
Yet another bug that's been around since release. People have filed petitions about this years ago and CCP did nothing about it. Now someone posts about it on the forums and a dev gives them **** about where to file a bug report. How about you Devs pay attention to the ones already submitted.
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Par'Gellen
Low Grade Ore
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Posted - 2006.09.22 00:56:00 -
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I can't connect to the test server so I used an alt on Tranq and bought some cheapo skills to try it with. I could not reproduce it mainly because I couldn't time the jumps right The length of time that "Completion Imminent" stays up is impossible to predict. One time it's 3 seconds. The next it's 15. The skill has to completely complete while the session change is happening in order to reproduce it. This only seems to be doable by accident 
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Annafrid
Caldari
Daddy's Girls
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Posted - 2006.09.22 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Enotz
I've heard this one before. Try clicking "Train Skill" again, and stopping it
I haven't seen this bug for many moons now, but Enotz solution has always worked for me in the past. As was said, just start training the skill over again, then stop it at once. When your stop it, it should show as completed.
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Mesuno
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Posted - 2006.09.22 15:08:00 -
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I have seen this a couple of times and believe it is linke dto the same shield/cap display bugs that I get.
As far as I can figure it it happens when my eve clock gets miles out of sync with the server/pc/rest of the world. As the skill points are estimated client side based on the current time it can often display wildly wrong finishing times. Once I cancelled a skill thinking it was hung on 'completion immanent' to find that it actually had nearly an hour to go. When i set it training again it immediately went back to 'completion immanent'
Don't think i lost any skill points but it was very annoying.
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