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Hark Hanam
Elarion Nation
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Posted - 2011.11.30 22:29:00 -
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I found out some evidence about the matryoshka zero style on that sleeper's promotional ads.
Watryoshka-space numbers
Probably coming for summer expansion, don't worry, stay calm and relax.
(did someone called the cops ?) |
Rath Kelbore
The Six-Pack Syndicate
7
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Posted - 2011.11.30 22:45:00 -
[32] - Quote
Similar Logic? |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration
172
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Posted - 2011.11.30 22:49:00 -
[33] - Quote
wow.
It can't be a troll.
9/10 insanity
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Cash Godness
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2011.12.01 11:44:00 -
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I usually let people freely express their opinions without intervening. However, considering a lot of rumors appeared in this thread, i have to post a second reply in order to clarify one thing:
I did NOT used/drank/ingurgitated/main-lined any of the following substances: c0caine ( #3 ), gasoline ( #22 ), various colored pills, including the Matrix ones - blue and red ( #26 )
The reason for not using those substances is not because I would have anything against them. It's just I didn't need to boost my insanity at all by using various elements: my insanity level is already high, by default. It doesn't need any boosters !
To make it even more simple for eve players: trying to boost my insanity level with pills/drugs/gasoline would be like trying to boost a Broadsword resistances by adding six Invulns: not only there's a stacking penalty, but the ship itself already have high resistances, by default. This would just be a redundant and illogical action !
The only valid reply regarding my own person is found at post #33
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wow.
It can't be a troll.
9/10 insanity
A little correction though: it's not 9/10, actually it's 11/10. My insanity is overflowing
Keep posting: your opinions will definitely help both me and CCP find the perfect theory about zeros :))) |
Vachir Khan
TriSeq Defence Group
80
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Posted - 2011.12.01 11:51:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Forum thread of the week IMO 
Quite possibly.
Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
If MMORPG players were around when God said, "Let there be light" they'd have called the light gay and plunged the universe back into darkness by squatting their nutsacks over it. |
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
68
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Posted - 2011.12.01 12:59:00 -
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I actually liked those old slashed zeros, until they disappeared sometime in the mid-80s. One of those things that used to distinguish computer text from regular old boring handwritten.
It reminds me of the days of my childhood, programming in Basic on an old IBM PC.
Lode Runner. Flight Simulator 1.0. Infocom text adventures. Good stuff.
I used that old dot-matrix IBM 5152 printer (well, basically an Epson MX80) from 1983 until 1996. Finally had to upgrade in college - was getting points docked when it couldn't quite handle modern Word Processor fonts and randomly throw strange chars.
What was that old ASCII code anyway?
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Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
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Posted - 2011.12.01 13:11:00 -
[37] - Quote
The new font is fine as it is. Beats the old any which way.
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Tore Vest
Vikinghall
98
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Posted - 2011.12.01 13:17:00 -
[38] - Quote
Ah... a font thread  |
Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
61
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Posted - 2011.12.01 13:18:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Kids, this is why you should not take c0caine.
You have obviously had no experience with drugs in the slightest. The person is obviously high on weed and stoned beyond belief. |
Derus Grobb
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.12.01 13:25:00 -
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Oh my gosh |
yogi caldet
Zebra Corp
BricK sQuAD.
0
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Posted - 2011.12.01 13:43:00 -
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Underrated masterpiece. |
Di Mulle
26
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Posted - 2011.12.01 13:57:00 -
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This is why this forum redempt many of it's sins by having "hide posts".
CCP is unable to implement simpliest things. Like settting to hide signatures. So they sweep it under a rug . Children do that in their pre-shool years, CCP does it being adults. Probably because it is fearless enough. |
Jekyl Eraser
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.01 14:36:00 -
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Everything is dirt cheap but thats not only thing that is OP... definitely being able to read is OP, EVE is too easy now.. the learning curve is gone. EVE is dieing!! |
Ad'Hakim Tahous
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2011.12.01 14:40:00 -
[44] - Quote
Further evidence of the dangers of WiS:
- OP may have succeeded where so many have failed.... passing thru The Door and finding a den of drug smugglers
- At grave risk to their own sanity, a brave group of capsuleers welds The Door shut when OP is next on station
OMFG  |
Hemmo Paskiainen
Silver Snake Enterprise
Against ALL Authorities
35
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Posted - 2011.12.01 14:57:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Kids, this is why you should not take c0caine.
your not acting like that from that, maybe crack junkies or meth does that
CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS |
Ceratin
Dark-Rising
Executive Outcomes
1
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Posted - 2011.12.01 16:02:00 -
[46] - Quote
Best poast all year |
Belidos Goveko
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2011.12.01 17:18:00 -
[47] - Quote
What is it with all these font complaints?
First someone complaining about the Q being wrong when if you compare it with times new roman which is the accepted publishing standard font shows the Q to be how they've implemented it, and now people are complaining that the zero has a line through it, if you bother to check a zero with a line through it is a globaly accepted way of diferentiating between the letter O and the number 0.
Either schools aren't teaching spelling properly nowdays or there's alot of trolls who couldn't find anything wrong to troll about so they just chose to whine about something silly. |
Biytor
Star Frontiers
BricK sQuAD.
0
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Posted - 2011.12.01 17:30:00 -
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This is not a normal idea... But on METH it is!!!
METH... Not even once... |
Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions
Reckless Ambition
66
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Posted - 2011.12.19 10:13:00 -
[49] - Quote
Well.
Alrighty, then.
Kids, this is a sterling example of why PCP is not something to **** around with...
I A/F/K cloak in Jita. Does that count? |
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
60
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Posted - 2011.12.19 10:41:00 -
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Its one of those images if you cross your eyes while looking at it it shows a picture. Not gonna give away the answer cause of ruining. |
Jhagiti Tyran
Muppet Ninja's
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
50
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Posted - 2011.12.19 10:51:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Kids, this is why you should not take c0caine.
Its a case for why you should take it, the OPs obviously having fun in a little world all of his own. |
Halcyon Ingenium
Warm Holes
68
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Posted - 2011.12.19 10:51:00 -
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CCP Phantom wrote:This sounds suspicious, but I can't point out the actual flaw.
You have to accept her definition of the striked out zero, which is assumed in her argument. The problem isn't in her logic, it is in the factual basis of her premises. 
Edit: Actually the logic has a contradiction. She uses something which she says doesn't exist to say everything is cheaper. And you'll find that this is mathematically wrong; if you consider taking the limit as it approaches zero of a variable n as a denominator, it causes a numerator m to approach infinity. If there was such a thing as half zeros, it would make everything more expensive.
That which always was, and is, and will be everlasting fire,
the same for all, the cosmos, made neither by god nor man,
replenishes in measure as it burns away. -Heraclitus |
Cash Godness
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.19 12:50:00 -
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Halcyon Ingenium wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:This sounds suspicious, but I can't point out the actual flaw. You have to accept her definition of the striked out zero, which is assumed in her argument. The problem isn't in her logic, it is in the factual basis of her premises. Edit: Actually the logic has a contradiction. She uses something which she says doesn't exist to say everything is cheaper. And you'll find that this is mathematically wrong; if you consider taking the limit as it approaches zero of a variable n as a denominator, it causes a numerator m to approach infinity. If there was such a thing as half zeros, it would make everything more expensive.
1. You can't point out the actual flow because it either does not exist or it's hidden and requires "Advangel Logic & Argumentation" trained to V 
2.The logic doesn't have any mathematical contradiction and I can prove it: If you cut a zero with a diagonal line, you obtain another symbol that LOOKS like a zero, but it's NOT a zero. If you make a confusion between "a zero cut with a diagonal line" and the mathematical symbol "0" it's like mistaking the symbol "$" with the letter "S" by not noticing the dollar is cut by two vertical lines, therefore they are two different symbols.
Also said i'm gonna prove that: Demonstration is simple:
a) OpenEVE and try to sell an item for 1 followed by three zeros.You will end up selling the item for 1000 isk, because after "1" you have used the mathematical symbol "0"
b) Open EVE and try to sell an item for 1 followed by three any other symbols. You will end up selling the item for 1 isk, because after "1" you have used symbols that are not accepted by eve client.. For example, try to type 1++++++ ( looks like 0, but it's not, cuz its cut by a diagonal line )
Since zero cut by a diagonal line is NOT a mathematical symbol, but rather an ascii symbol ( similar to this one ++ ), it means that whatever you type after "1", won't be accepted by eve, which means everything will be cheaper :)) Q.E.D ( quod erat demonstrandum )
3.The problem isn't in her logic, it is in the factual basis of her premises.
That's 100% correct. Finally someone that noticed that not the logic is the problem, but the initial premises, which are OBVIOUSLY FALSE :)
The error is called "sophism of division", which occurs "when we infer the same thing concerning ideas in a divided sense, which is only true in a compounded one"
If you cut a zero with a diagonal line, it WON'T turn into two smaller zeros and the result WON'T have the same attributes as the initial one. That's the logical error that neither regular players, nor the devs were able to identify :)
Anyway, it was fun to observe peeps seeking for errors in my argumentation or blaming the drugs. The intention was never to test your logic skills or to blame CCP, but to have fun :) Keep it going !  |
Wacktopia
Sicarius.
The Kadeshi
60
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Posted - 2011.12.19 14:00:00 -
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Crossing zeros and sevens is one of the ways we all have evolved above your ****head level of intellect. |
Hark Hanam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2011.12.19 15:03:00 -
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"because the sun doesn't exist, then you are not reading this because there's no light to carry image to your eyes"
Which is not the same than stating : "Because the sun was replaced by another way to provide light, There is no sun anymore. So you are not reading this because there's no light to carry image to your eyes"
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everything got cheaper in EVE since every order that had a zero inside, doesn't have it anymore. As we know, the only accepted digits for an order are: 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9. There are no half zeros or zeros cut by an oblique/horizontal/vertical line, which makes my initial statement true: Everything is cheaper now
"Everything is cheaper since every order that had a zero inside doesn't have it anymore". False : 9999 is still 9999.
"as we know digits for an order (in EVE) are: 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9". False : stated that 0 were replaced by something, not stripped off.
If it is stripped off completely then, the new numeral system is now base 9, which imply that 1 in that system now means 0, 2 mean 1..etc
So, the base change but the numbers were not converted. We don't have to wait for a font change : one can state that the new base of the numbers is 8, therefore everything that contains any other digit than 0 to 7 is now cheaper.
It 0 symbol was replaced, then :
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a) OpenEVE and try to sell an item for 1 followed by three zeros.You will end up selling the item for 1000 isk, because after "1" you have used the mathematical symbol "0"
b) Open EVE and try to sell an item for 1 followed by three any other symbols. You will end up selling the item for 1 isk, because after "1" you have used symbols that are not accepted by eve client.. For example, try to type 1++++++ ( looks like 0, but it's not, cuz its cut by a diagonal line )
Since zero cut by a diagonal line is NOT a mathematical symbol, but rather an ascii symbol ( similar to this one ++ ), it means that whatever you type after "1", won't be accepted by eve, which means everything will be cheaper :)) Q.E.D ( quod erat demonstrandum )
a) you cannot input three zeros, it was stated that 0 were replaced. So you will end up selling the item for 1<<< isk, because after the "1" you have used the new mathematical symbol "<".
b) it's not "any other symbol", it's one particular symbol that have an unknown value.
In a given number system, if the base is an integer, the number of digits required is always equal to the absolute value of the base. 0 was replaced and we keep the base 10 ? therefore there's still 10 digits and the new symbol can be inbetween any of the other digits which change the value of every digit (not only 0) If 1 now equal the 9 and "that new symbol" equal say 8, 1000 is now 9888 isks.
There's logical errors and there's no philosopher mecanisms. But there's still some drugs. |
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