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digital0verdose
Caldari Megathorn Minning And Industry
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Posted - 2006.09.20 20:53:00 -
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An Osprey with 3 Miner II's
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Vexor with 4 Miner II's
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Alekto Erinys
Platinum Investments
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Posted - 2006.09.20 20:55:00 -
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depends on skills
caldari cruiser specifically
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digital0verdose
Caldari Megathorn Minning And Industry
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Posted - 2006.09.20 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: Alekto Erinys depends on skills
caldari cruiser specifically
If Caldari cruiser is IV.
Basically I am Caldari raised, though i will be using a Domi for my mining which has me training in Gallente ships. I am trying to determine if I should move to the Vexor at G. Cruiser II or just stay in the Osprey for the remaining 6 days of training.
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Me June
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Posted - 2006.09.20 20:58:00 -
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Assuming caldari/gallente cruiser 5, a osprey will have 100% yield bonus, meaning it will basically have 6 Miner II's. The vexor has no mining bonus except for the drones, which i dont think will make up for the missing 2 Miner II's.
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Alekto Erinys
Platinum Investments
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Posted - 2006.09.20 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: digital0verdose
Originally by: Alekto Erinys depends on skills
caldari cruiser specifically
If Caldari cruiser is IV.
Basically I am Caldari raised, though i will be using a Domi for my mining which has me training in Gallente ships. I am trying to determine if I should move to the Vexor at G. Cruiser II or just stay in the Osprey for the remaining 6 days of training.
k, then those 3 miner II's should really be 5.4 miner II's, so Osprey wins
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Majin82
Caldari Arkhangelos Alliance Naval Intelligence Arkhangelos Command
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Posted - 2006.09.20 22:00:00 -
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Osprey hands down. The Bonuses you get with the Osprey make it the best mining ship out side of bardges. ------------------------------------- AANI ARCH |

Hllaxiu
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.20 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: Majin82 Osprey hands down. The Bonuses you get with the Osprey make it the best mining ship out side of bardges.
Actualy, Osprey at level 5 = 6 turrets. There are several battleships and battlecruisers that can best an osprey. --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson |

Heloise ChateauBriande
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Posted - 2006.09.21 00:02:00 -
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Originally by: Hllaxiu
Originally by: Majin82 Osprey hands down. The Bonuses you get with the Osprey make it the best mining ship out side of bardges.
Actualy, Osprey at level 5 = 6 turrets. There are several battleships and battlecruisers that can best an osprey.
There is also another cruiser that can match it... the Minmatar Scythe has the same bonus.
- Helo
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Byzan Zwyth
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Posted - 2006.09.21 01:48:00 -
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I think the bruitix can fit 7, seems like a good option, but I'm not tooooo far away from being able to fly an apoc, 8 mining lasers 4tw (I think) ---------------------- I fly Amarr and Gallente ships Amarr because they peow peow and look cool... Gallente because they are effective |

Concero
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Posted - 2006.09.21 03:16:00 -
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The Scythe has the same mining bonus but having used both the Osprey and the Scythe, the Scythe sucks basically. Once you have 3 Miner 2's fitted you generally have nothing much left over to fit any sort of tank let alone use the 2 remaining high slots. The Osprey has slightly better fitting and the much bigger drone bay with 4 light drones does allow you to fight of high sec rats before your tank blows. Not so the Scythe IME.
I found fitting six rather than seven miner 2's on the Brutix made it much easier to fit. I still needed 2 co-processors but with 7 miner 2's it was 4 or 5 co-processors. With 6 or 7 miner 2's your cargo won't hold one cycle of ore. I fitted 2 expanders so that didn't have to stagger the lasers coz quite frankly emptying the cargo once every 60 seconds is quite bad enough. With 7 miner 2's you will have to stagger the lazers because you will have maybe one low to fit an expander. You will not have much CPU left to fit a tank of any kind. I would just use the 6 miners to be honest. I used a shield tank in Empire. You also need to allow for some cap recharge as the miners really suck some juice. I used a tractor in the last high slot to suck the loot from the rats my drones killed. Something the Domi can't do.
Domi - what a beut. And a cinch to fit. I use a 6 expanders in the lows just so that I can empty the cargo every 3 minutes like a strip miner. I'm just lazy I guess. I have a MAR in the remaining low and 6 Barton cap rechargers in the mids. But I've never had the rats get through the shields in 0.5 yet.
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Freyda
Gallente Celestial Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.21 03:42:00 -
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Ignore everyone above... it's as simple as this.. if you have crappy drone skills use the osprey, if you have level 5 drones and level 3 drone interfacing use the vexor.
Ignore the people that say that the drones don't pull in enough to make up for the osprey's bonus.
If you don't believe me, then read this: Link
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Concero
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Posted - 2006.09.21 06:35:00 -
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Edited by: Concero on 21/09/2006 06:37:10 Osprey Max mining yield, with cruiser 4, mining level 5, astrogeology 5 (Assuming drones are used for rat defence i.e. no mining drones)
Miner 2 = 60 (base yield) x 1.80 (osprey bonus) x 1.25 (level 5 mining) x 1.25 (astrogeology 5) = 168.75 ore/per laser.
Total 506 ore/min
Vexor Max mining yield, with cruiser 4, mining level 5, astrogeology 5. Assuming fast level of drone skills of Drones 4, Mining Drone 3. (A likely assumption if a newbie caldari training gallente for Dominix)
At Gallente Cruiser lvl 2 (Minimum lvl for Vexor)
Miner 2 = 60 (base yield) x 1.25 (level 5 mining) x 1.25 (astrogeology 5) = 93.75 ore per minute, per laser. Mining drone 1's on a vexor, 15 x 1.15 (mining drone op 3) x 1.20 (cruiser level 2) = 20.7 ore/min max
Total 82.8(4 x mining drones) + 375.0(4 x Miner 2's) = 457.8 ore/min optimum
At Gallente Cruiser lvl 3 (With Battlecruiser 1 the Brutix is also available)
Miner 2 = 60 (base yield) x 1.25 (level 5 mining) x 1.25 (astrogeology 5) = 93.75 ore per minute, per laser. Mining drone 1's on a vexor, 15 x 1.15 (mining drone op 3) x 1.30 (cruiser level 3) = 22.42 ore/min max
Total 89.7(4 x mining drones) + 375.0(4 x Miner 2's) = 464.7 ore/min optimum
At Gallente Cruiser lvl 4 (With Battleship 1 the Dominix is also available)
Miner 2 = 60 (base yield) x 1.25 (level 5 mining) x 1.25 (astrogeology 5) = 93.75 ore per minute, per laser. Mining drone 1's on a vexor, 15 x 1.15 (mining drone op 3) x 1.40 (cruiser level 4) = 24.15 ore/min max
Total 96.6(4 x mining drones) + 375.0(4 x Miner 2's) = 471.6 ore/min optimum
In summary, unless you have drones 5 and drone interfacing at 3 or 4 the Osprey is the better miner by a long way. But after saying that, these skills take 1-2 weeks to train and if your aiming for the Dominix you'll need them eventually anyway.
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Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2006.09.21 06:50:00 -
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vexor can use harvies
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OldPueblo
Gallente Defenders of Order New Eden Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.09.21 07:01:00 -
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Edited by: OldPueblo on 21/09/2006 07:01:31 Don't forget the mining upgrades for low slots...
Anyway, quickfit will help you easily do the math using skills and equipment.
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Fogy
Caldari Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.09.21 07:13:00 -
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gett a barge.... "From my rotting boddy flowers shall grow and I am in them, and that is eternity"
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digital0verdose
Caldari Megathorn Minning And Industry
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Posted - 2006.09.21 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: Fogy gett a barge....
Lots of good feedback. Thanks. My Drone Skill is level 4 atm. and everything else in drones that i can have trained without needing lvl 5 is also at 4. This should give some idea on how I feel about drones. As soon as I get in the Dominix, my next month is being solely devoted to Drones.
The reason I am not getting a Barge is because I am kind of between Corps right now and I would like to be able to defend myself from rats. The 375m3 drone capacity will help me with this.
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