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El Chocolat	Posted - 2006.09.21 00:13:00 - [1] So there I was, ratting away in 0.5 space in my merlin. All of a sudden a Cormorant warps in and starts ratting beside me. Soon the belt is done, we pick up our loot and go into the next one. Empty, and so is the next. This continues until we have a spawn of 4 frigates, we divide and conquer. The thing is, I didn't come out here to share kills with a complete stranger, so I poach his loot. Immediately he locks on and fires. He's set up for medium range, so I afterburner out to 35km and peg him with light missiles. Eventually he gets tired of this game (as his shields are steadily depleting) and warps to the next belt in the system. Naturally, I follow. I land less then 3000 meters right above his ship. I lock on immediately and let loose with 2 small NOS, 2 light missile bays, and my 7500m warp scrambler. His guns aren't coming close to hitting me and his missiles are barely scratching my shields. So while his inevitable death is on the way, he tries to convo me twice. I press decline both times, yet I do feel a little guilty, after all, he may want to try to negotiate a ransom. His shields go fast, then the armour a bit slower; his hull drops in two volleys. Poof There I am sitting beside a guy in a pod and his cargo container (which incidently carried very little of value, the best was a T2 small hybrid turret; probably only about 2-3 million in loot if I get lucky in the market). He warps off, I grab the loot, dock and log. But even still, it's still nagging on me. I quite possibly just ruined someone's day, the carebear inside me is extremely disappointed. I actually contemplated logging in and sending him a few million to dissuade his losses. Does this feeling go away, or am I just too much of a ***** for pirating after all? Yarr for alt post!
Dred'Pirate Jesus Imperial Academy	Posted - 2006.09.21 00:18:00 - [2] ***** ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ [2:02:08] Dred'Pirate Jesus > I'm Mexican you dolt.. It's pronouced "hey zeus" not "gee zus" :
Sakura Nihil Tharsis Security	Posted - 2006.09.21 00:39:00 - [3] It goes away after about 10 kills or so, or at least did for me. Tharsis needs some !
Gustovness Broken Cannon	Posted - 2006.09.21 00:47:00 - [4] Don't feel bad, he shot you first. Yeah you took his loot, but if he really didn't want to lose his ship, he wouldn't have fired on you in the first place... Broken Cannon is RECRUITING! Click here!
Damien Smith Turbulent	Posted - 2006.09.21 01:01:00 - [5] Originally by: Sakura Nihil It goes away after about 10 kills or so, or at least did for me. It's true. I had the same guilt problem as you do, then I stepped into an interceptor for the first time. Goodbye Mr nice guy, hello podlust. I went from just above -1.0 sec status to -5.0 in a matter of days, then spent the rest of my time chasing that ever elusive true -10, which I attained only a couple of days ago. Long had I suffered with the -9.99999**** taunting me from the player details window. I'll never kill an npc again. ----------- Join channel 'Turby' or die! (bring pie) Mission running carebears drop good loot. Probe one out today! I <3 carebears on toast ^^ - Xorus I'll trade you some carebears for some sheep -Tirg +=♥ - Immy
murder one Gallente CRICE Corporation Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.09.21 01:15:00 - [6] To the OP: Stop being a wuss and start killing. You know you want to. Because I said so...
Roxanna Kell Holy Jihad	Posted - 2006.09.21 01:22:00 - [7] i jsut play the game with an FPS mentality. knowing that diying isnt a big deal Quote: You have ONE advantage over me.....you can kiss my ass and I can't!!
Qel Hoth Omegatech Industries	Posted - 2006.09.21 01:38:00 - [8] Damian, I actually think I might have been one of your first victims. Killed my ratting Omen in Chamume, then sent me a few mill to cover the losses. Most fun I've ever had while getting owned. Trying to fight back with a half-dead ship with 35% cap and draining fast doesn't work well, but at least it only took 1 fight for me to realize that. But then again, it may have been a different guy, just the name looks very familiar.
Siigari Kitawa Gallente HelpCorp United	Posted - 2006.09.21 02:37:00 - [9] Originally by: Qel Hoth Damian, I actually think I might have been one of your first victims. Killed my ratting Omen in Chamume, then sent me a few mill to cover the losses. Most fun I've ever had while getting owned. Trying to fight back with a half-dead ship with 35% cap and draining fast doesn't work well, but at least it only took 1 fight for me to realize that. But then again, it may have been a different guy, just the name looks very familiar. Haha can I tell you about the time that he was mining as a carebear in my corp in his TRISTAN OF DOOM? ROFL
Fanchon Caldari Infinite Technologies	Posted - 2006.09.21 03:22:00 - [10] I ransomed a 2 month old player in a Prophecy last night (with help from some corpmates) and I will admit to having mixed feelings about it. But it passes. After all, it's his own fault for flying an expensive ship he can't even fit well in lowsec. Besides, you were fired on first, you have every right to shoot back. It was either you or him mate, and thats the simple truth. He could have gone a more diplomatic route, but he chose the way of violence, and paid for the consequences of his actions. It's his own fault he died, not yours. I now leave you to your... MOOSEY FATE!!
Black Claw Gallente Black Scorpion LTD	Posted - 2006.09.21 04:08:00 - [11] El Chocolat, sometimes it's worthwhile following your instincts and listening to your heart instead of the words of those who would try and brainwash you into joining them. If you feel it's within you to provide protection to the weak and innocent, instead of killing them, you might want to consider joining either a security corp or an anti-pirate corp, especially if you also want to go hunt down the pirates and protect others. But don't listen to those who would try to brainwash you to be something different to what you feel you want to be. They're saying that the more you violate yourself, the more you'll get used to it. And yes, I believe that if you actively persecute and destroy other players you are actually violating your own sense of decency and morality. Is that something you really want to do? I'm sure I'll be 'flamed' by all the pirates, but hey, who cares? Pirates will flame anyone for any reason. Just follow your heart, Chocolat, and do what feels right to you. BLACK SCORPION LTD Recruitment Post - Website
murder one Gallente CRICE Corporation Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.09.21 04:59:00 - [12] Originally by: Black Claw El Chocolat, sometimes it's worthwhile following your instincts and listening to your heart instead of the words of those who would try and brainwash you into joining them. If you feel it's within you to provide protection to the weak and innocent, instead of killing them, you might want to consider joining either a security corp or an anti-pirate corp, especially if you also want to go hunt down the pirates and protect others. But don't listen to those who would try to brainwash you to be something different to what you feel you want to be. They're saying that the more you violate yourself, the more you'll get used to it. And yes, I believe that if you actively persecute and destroy other players you are actually violating your own sense of decency and morality. Is that something you really want to do? I'm sure I'll be 'flamed' by all the pirates, but hey, who cares? Pirates will flame anyone for any reason. Just follow your heart, Chocolat, and do what feels right to you. Yes, do what feels right. Like bathing the streets with the blood of the innocent. Come to the dark side.... Because I said so...
Grim Starwind Devils collective	Posted - 2006.09.21 05:17:00 - [13] I bet it was the best rush you've had playing a game Anyway, back to buisness, no one ever feels bad about killing someone, and if you do feel bad you shouldn't have done it. Just kill at will, I mean it's a game after all and as others have said.. he shot you first and you have a right to protect yourself.... even if it does mean chasing his as$ down and scrambling it, which btw.. why did you have a scrambler fitted if you weren't planning on pvp
Swor Sniggerdly	Posted - 2006.09.21 05:24:00 - [14] i really like when they plead in local to stop before you hear that lovely squish sound, its like they are expecting mercy or something LOL the only time i felt bad about pirating is when i screwed up and died i have died doing my job for the corp and i feel fine then, but when i make a mistake and the other person wins, then i feel crappy
DarknessInc Minmatar United Nations Star Fleet The Imperial Order	Posted - 2006.09.21 05:32:00 - [15] once the carebear in me gave a guy half his ransom back. Now he is my partner in crime ___________________ I love you -Cortes I love him more -Suvetar I love him the most -Oveur Back off he's mine. All Mine --Eris
Garan Savlar Gallente Ascendant Strategies Inc.	Posted - 2006.09.21 06:48:00 - [16] Edited by: Garan Savlar on 21/09/2006 06:49:56 Originally by: Fanchon Besides, you were fired on first, you have every right to shoot back. It was either you or him mate, and thats the simple truth. He could have gone a more diplomatic route, but he chose the way of violence, and paid for the consequences of his actions. It's his own fault he died, not yours. Okay ... somewhat flawed logic here. He fired at the OP only after his loot was stolen ... so the OP was the aggressor. Granted the guy got his arse handed to him - and probably sullied his reputation by trying to beg for mercy when things were obviously going badly for him - but he did what most of us would have done ... fight for his stuff. What would you do if you were in that guy's position? Do you expect us to believe that you would try and open negotiations to get your loot back? Anyway El Chocolat ... follow your heart and turn your back on the darkness. Join the gallant ranks of the anti-pirates and prepare to stuff those parrots where the sun doesn't shine! ------------------------------------------------ Faugh-A-Ballaugh!
Damien Smith Turbulent	Posted - 2006.09.21 07:21:00 - [17] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Originally by: Qel Hoth Damian, I actually think I might have been one of your first victims. Killed my ratting Omen in Chamume, then sent me a few mill to cover the losses. Most fun I've ever had while getting owned. Trying to fight back with a half-dead ship with 35% cap and draining fast doesn't work well, but at least it only took 1 fight for me to realize that. But then again, it may have been a different guy, just the name looks very familiar. Haha can I tell you about the time that he was mining as a carebear in my corp in his TRISTAN OF DOOM? ROFL It's true, I'm a dirty ore loving carebear. ----------- Join channel 'Turby' or die! (bring pie) Mission running carebears drop good loot. Probe one out today! I <3 carebears on toast ^^ - Xorus I'll trade you some carebears for some sheep -Tirg +=♥ - Immy
LoganFire Amarr Quam Singulari Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.09.21 07:55:00 - [18] Originally by: El Chocolat So there I was, ratting away in 0.5 space in my merlin. All of a sudden a Cormorant warps in and starts ratting beside me. Soon the belt is done, we pick up our loot and go into the next one. Empty, and so is the next. This continues until we have a spawn of 4 frigates, we divide and conquer. The thing is, I didn't come out here to share kills with a complete stranger, so I poach his loot. Immediately he locks on and fires. He's set up for medium range, so I afterburner out to 35km and peg him with light missiles. Eventually he gets tired of this game (as his shields are steadily depleting) and warps to the next belt in the system. Naturally, I follow. I land less then 3000 meters right above his ship. I lock on immediately and let loose with 2 small NOS, 2 light missile bays, and my 7500m warp scrambler. His guns aren't coming close to hitting me and his missiles are barely scratching my shields. So while his inevitable death is on the way, he tries to convo me twice. I press decline both times, yet I do feel a little guilty, after all, he may want to try to negotiate a ransom. His shields go fast, then the armour a bit slower; his hull drops in two volleys. Poof There I am sitting beside a guy in a pod and his cargo container (which incidently carried very little of value, the best was a T2 small hybrid turret; probably only about 2-3 million in loot if I get lucky in the market). He warps off, I grab the loot, dock and log. But even still, it's still nagging on me. I quite possibly just ruined someone's day, the carebear inside me is extremely disappointed. I actually contemplated logging in and sending him a few million to dissuade his losses. Does this feeling go away, or am I just too much of a ***** for pirating after all? Yarr for alt post! If you where ratting why did you have a two point warp scrambler fitted to your ship? me thinks the dark side of you is take over your life even before you killed that poor sole.
Amdushus Palimadore Minmatar Black Scorpion LTD	Posted - 2006.09.21 08:03:00 - [19] Yeah... that feeling of guilt over killing some guy after you stole his loot is that little inner voice we all have telling you that you don't want to become an MMO sociopath. I've got mad respect for the skills of some of the more accomplished gankers in this game like m1 and Mr. Verone, but that doesn't mean that I agree at all with their chosen path in Eve. Besides, aren't there enough pirates in this game? The market isn't exactly in perfect competition atm. Carebearing is much more gratfiying. Also - if you weren't looking to yar someone in the first place then why did you have a scram fitted on your ship? Just curious. -- "Just because you're paranoid - don't mean they're not after you..." -- Kurt Cobain
murder one Gallente CRICE Corporation Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.09.21 08:16:00 - [20] Originally by: Amdushus Palimadore Yeah... that feeling of guilt over killing some guy after you stole his loot is that little inner voice we all have telling you that you don't want to become an MMO sociopath. I've got mad respect for the skills of some of the more accomplished gankers in this game like m1 and Mr. Verone, but that doesn't mean that I agree at all with their chosen path in Eve. Besides, aren't there enough pirates in this game? The market isn't exactly in perfect competition atm. Carebearing is much more gratfiying. Also - if you weren't looking to yar someone in the first place then why did you have a scram fitted on your ship? Just curious. Someone mentions my name in the same breath as Verone's? I must be doing something right. As for being an MMO sociopath, well... I've always wanted to be a sociopath Frankly I don't see the big deal. It's a game. You shoot someone in an FPS, you don't feel bad. They respawn, you continue. No big deal. Same thing with Eve, only that you probably blew something up that took them a few hours to procure. Heheheh. People have to realize that in the grand scheme of things, their personal loss is probably pretty insignificant. Just today I lost upwards of 250-300m in one ship, plus my pod and NINE DAYS of training clipped off of Hull5. (which I'm still not sure isn't due to a bug...) The ISK I could care less about. But those 9 days, that sucks. 9 more days of waiting to get back T2 hardeners. Sucky. Which makes me wonder... what if we didn't have clones? What if every time we got podded, we lost 5% off of our top skill? OUCH. Then podkilling would have some REAL pain in it wouldn't it? LOL. Because I said so...
Eagle32	Posted - 2006.09.21 08:24:00 - [21] Originally by: Amdushus Palimadore Yeah... that feeling of guilt over killing some guy after you stole his loot is that little inner voice we all have telling you that you don't want to become an MMO sociopath. Rum helps deal with that little guy for the rare person that can even remember him.
Deathbarrage	Posted - 2006.09.21 08:58:00 - [22] Originally by: Black Claw El Chocolat, sometimes it's worthwhile following your instincts and listening to your heart instead of the words of those who would try and brainwash you into joining them. If you feel it's within you to provide protection to the weak and innocent, instead of killing them, you might want to consider joining either a security corp or an anti-pirate corp, especially if you also want to go hunt down the pirates and protect others. But don't listen to those who would try to brainwash you to be something different to what you feel you want to be. They're saying that the more you violate yourself, the more you'll get used to it. And yes, I believe that if you actively persecute and destroy other players you are actually violating your own sense of decency and morality. Is that something you really want to do? I'm sure I'll be 'flamed' by all the pirates, but hey, who cares? Pirates will flame anyone for any reason. Just follow your heart, Chocolat, and do what feels right to you. I think you're going really far by talking about brainwashing and decency and morality when we're really talking about a videogame...
Nige007 Blood Inquisition	Posted - 2006.09.21 09:34:00 - [23] Well as far as I see if someone fires on you then it's either you or him mate. You have no reason to feel like you ruined his day, he ruined his day by picking a fight with the wrong target. Can you honestly say he wouldn't have killed you or that he would have given you compensation money for feeling bad? I felt bad twice: 1 - It was my second kill, just a frig but all named kit. Only 3 weeks old and kit worth around 4mil, I thought back to me at that age and it would have crippled me. I would have whined for days in corp chat. Did I give him money back? Hell no!!! 2 - was yesterday when my sec status went below -1.9 :-( I feel bad cos I can't go into 1.0 sec empire!!! he he You're not a ***** but have compasion, kill a few more times, if you dont feel better then become anti-pirate or don't get involved in this side of things. If you do look at getting into piracy I will say find a good corp, it's a great laugh.
Calantus Reik	Posted - 2006.09.21 10:09:00 - [24] Edited by: Calantus Reik on 21/09/2006 10:12:06 Edited by: Calantus Reik on 21/09/2006 10:11:48 If killing an innocent player in EVE makes you feel guilty just don't do it. Pretty simple. I don't have anything against piracy, but I know I would definately never be able to make a career of it. I've never been able to just kill random people in any game I've played. Even in WoW when the PVP death penalty is just a minute run back to your body. EDIT: I WOULD call you a pansy in this situation though. Killing someone over spawns and general turf wars are just part of world PVP. If he wanted to share/steal your spawns he should have asked if you minded or buggered off to his own belts.
Duranis Satosith Minmatar	Posted - 2006.09.21 12:13:00 - [25] In theory I would say stop being a ***** but in practice I feel much the same. Had a similar situation last night. Was cruising around low sec looking for a fight (more for the sake of something to do then anything else). After a couple of good fights we where just messing about in a 0.3 system on our way home when a guy in a Sycthe (fairly new character) warps into a belt next to my mate. My mate calls out that he is right next to him so i warp in and land 30km away. What i should have done is locked him, MWD in at full speed and blown the crap out of him. What i actually did though was lock him and slow boat over to him without firing. I just couldnt bring myself to open fire on a new guy in a mining cruiser. Hopefully the scare will make him a bit more cautious in future. Again in theory anyone that is in a position where you can attack them is fair game no matter who they are or what they are flying. The main thing to keep in mind is that this really is a pvp game and people have to live with that. If they cant then they shouldnt be playing.
El Chocolat	Posted - 2006.09.21 13:09:00 - [26] Thanks for all of your replies guys, I'm going to have to do some thinking on this one. I do see the point that this is all just a game, and it's true that when I kill someone in a FPS or something I do not feel guilt at all. I suppose the reason I felt guilt in this situation was that this guy was ratting frigates in a destroyer; that just shouts out 'I'm a poor, new player'. I probably took quite a fair chunk of his assets from him, but then again, that's what insurance is for! Thanks for pointing out that he shot on me first, I suppose I never thought of it that way. He always did have the choice to go to another belt/system, but he chose to try to kill me instead. As for the questions on why I had a scram fitted: my alliance is currently at war, even in high sec I wander around with the defenses to properly PvP.
Rawr Cristina Caldari	Posted - 2006.09.21 13:29:00 - [27] Originally by: Amdushus Palimadore Yeah... that feeling of guilt over killing some guy after you stole his loot is that little inner voice we all have telling you that you don't want to become an MMO sociopath. whats wrong with being an evil murdering sociopath? i mean its a roleplaying game anyway... dosent mean we're like it in RL goes back to stabbing children
Pedro Montana	Posted - 2006.09.21 13:52:00 - [28] I concur ..its a game go with the path that makes you most happy. Just please dont ever call Eve a FPS. Its more than that. Even if some people prefer to only play one part of the game (FPS style) the game it self is much more multi-facated. Things that keep it more interesting than brainless gank.
sharkyballs Amarr	Posted - 2006.09.21 14:10:00 - [29] Originally by: Pedro Montana I concur ..its a game go with the path that makes you most happy. Just please dont ever call Eve a FPS. Its more than that. Even if some people prefer to only play one part of the game (FPS style) the game it self is much more multi-facated. Things that keep it more interesting than brainless gank. i completly agree. i like living a life in the world of eve, not logging in killiing stuff, then logging off. there is too much other stuff to be and do to simply play that boring of a role. i get plenty of pvp in my home system. and i don't pirate. several of the surrounding corps and alliance help keep our system safe and my coinscience happy. it's great. it is very possible to kill without a security drop and have the satisfaction that you can do it intellegently...and not be a complete ahole that's gotta hurt others to get your rocks off. it's basically the same thing as pirating, but we look good.
Electric Cucumber Amarr Beagle Corp	Posted - 2006.09.21 14:53:00 - [30] it's only a game. I would blow a 5 minute old player up if I found him in a belt
Damien Smith Turbulent	Posted - 2006.09.21 16:50:00 - [31] Edited by: Damien Smith on 21/09/2006 16:51:52 Originally by: El Chocolat Thanks for all of your replies guys, I'm going to have to do some thinking on this one. I do see the point that this is all just a game, and it's true that when I kill someone in a FPS or something I do not feel guilt at all. I suppose the reason I felt guilt in this situation was that this guy was ratting frigates in a destroyer; that just shouts out 'I'm a poor, new player'. I probably took quite a fair chunk of his assets from him, but then again, that's what insurance is for! Thanks for pointing out that he shot on me first, I suppose I never thought of it that way. He always did have the choice to go to another belt/system, but he chose to try to kill me instead. As for the questions on why I had a scram fitted: my alliance is currently at war, even in high sec I wander around with the defenses to properly PvP. Minimise overview when you warp in, respond to nothing. Treat them like npc's until you get your pirate hat. Eventually you'll be chatting to your piraty corpmates about who's had the best hatemail. It's engaging in conversation while still in the guilt mode that gets you. You start to have compassion and then you second guess what you're doing and then it all goes to hell. Once you're up to ransoming people without falling for their sob stories then keep it short, sharp and to the point. Answer none of their questions; you're the one in control and you'll tell them what's going to happen. Give them your price and your time limit and start the countdown. Kill them if they don't pay and close the convo as soon as they either pay or get popped. Our corp has a policy of 'You're an outlaw or you're out'. New members that aren't flashy reds yet are forced to pod people conveniently held in place by the rest of us when we're out pirating. Once they've gone to the dark side they're considered one of us. ----------- Join channel 'Turby' or die! (bring pie) Mission running carebears drop good loot. Probe one out today! I <3 carebears on toast ^^ - Xorus I'll trade you some carebears for some sheep -Tirg +=♥ - Immy
OrangeAfroMan Suffoco Noctis Atrocitas	Posted - 2006.09.22 00:08:00 - [32] Originally by: El Chocolat So there I was, ratting away in 0.5 space in my merlin. All of a sudden a Cormorant warps in and starts ratting beside me. Soon the belt is done, we pick up our loot and go into the next one. Empty, and so is the next. This continues until we have a spawn of 4 frigates, we divide and conquer. The thing is, I didn't come out here to share kills with a complete stranger, so I poach his loot. Immediately he locks on and fires. He's set up for medium range, so I afterburner out to 35km and peg him with light missiles. Eventually he gets tired of this game (as his shields are steadily depleting) and warps to the next belt in the system. Naturally, I follow. I land less then 3000 meters right above his ship. I lock on immediately and let loose with 2 small NOS, 2 light missile bays, and my 7500m warp scrambler. His guns aren't coming close to hitting me and his missiles are barely scratching my shields. So while his inevitable death is on the way, he tries to convo me twice. I press decline both times, yet I do feel a little guilty, after all, he may want to try to negotiate a ransom. His shields go fast, then the armour a bit slower; his hull drops in two volleys. Poof There I am sitting beside a guy in a pod and his cargo container (which incidently carried very little of value, the best was a T2 small hybrid turret; probably only about 2-3 million in loot if I get lucky in the market). He warps off, I grab the loot, dock and log. But even still, it's still nagging on me. I quite possibly just ruined someone's day, the carebear inside me is extremely disappointed. I actually contemplated logging in and sending him a few million to dissuade his losses. Does this feeling go away, or am I just too much of a ***** for pirating after all? Yarr for alt post! Go on a killing spree asap and by the time you realize what you've done you'll have too much blood on your hands to care. Worked for me :) Gronsak is Tux's angry alt.
Dark Vishnu	Posted - 2006.09.22 02:55:00 - [33] uhm what bad feeling are you talking about? and what voice? are you sure your allright? and mr. brainwashing: when all people are weaker than me and im sure that noone is innocent how could i help all of them? i think i help them with teaching how to fight. and when i read so much about "inner voices" here maybe the carebear corps brainwashes their people. in the end maybe someone of you could answer the 2 questions i asked at the beginning.
Amdushus Palimadore Minmatar Black Scorpion LTD	Posted - 2006.09.22 02:56:00 - [34] Originally by: murder one Someone mentions my name in the same breath as Verone's? I must be doing something right. I mention you because in my second day or so of Eve I was curious so I checked the heavy hitters bounty board and your smirking mug was one of the tops on the list. I read your bio about how you will destroy any destroyer not flying fleet support on principle alone and it scared me a little inside, since I was in a destroyer at the time. I soon trained up to cruisers for that reason alone... because you were right. Yours was probably the only bio that I ever read which made me go "geez - hope I never meet this guy in space." Considering my last two corps were LV friendly I didn't think that would be a problem but now that I'm anti-pirate I'm once again not too excited about the prospect -- "Just because you're paranoid - don't mean they're not after you..." -- Kurt Cobain
Splitter Macdung Minmatar Vale Heavy Industries	Posted - 2006.09.22 03:40:00 - [35] Piracy isnt evil, its alchemy! I give you my cannon rounds, you give me Entertainment, Equivalent Exchange at its finest. Of course, if i dont think the show was worth my dime, we may be discussing an out of pod experience, corpses for the hangers do make lovely parting gifts. and at Amd: Lol, new corp already? Well if they're anti-pie, you'll prolly never make the mistake of locking and scramming them when they run from the gate guns. Gotta be some small comfort to them __________________________________ Vale Heavy Industries "We'll Haul Your Stuff For Free"(Because you didnt pay us not to.)
Amdushus Palimadore Minmatar Black Scorpion LTD	Posted - 2006.09.22 05:07:00 - [36] Originally by: Splitter Macdung and at Amd: Lol, new corp already? Well if they're anti-pie, you'll prolly never make the mistake of locking and scramming them when they run from the gate guns. Gotta be some small comfort to them LOL... man if I didn't dislike you so much I'd really like you. You're really funny and always make me laugh. Bright guy. Really sorry about your ship, but to be honest I thought the 23 million iskies I gave you would have covered the losses. As far as anti-pie is concerned yeah well it's just the role I chose after our little falling-out. I told my new corp the unfortunate story of my nub tactical blunder and how it scarred me deeply and made me anti-pirate. They all got a kick out of it. In the end I was pirated by a pirate - I paid you for a likely insured ship and got booted out of the corp anyway. No big deal - I was bothered about it for a while but it gave me clarity about my chosen path in Eve - something I guess I'd been lacking up to that point. Regardless, I was pretty mad at you but that was displaced and stupid. I am still truly sorry about your ship. I am not sorry, however, that you chose to call me out and smack talk about me to that Debes cat in local. That guy was talking mad smack earlier and I had every right to be mad at him. Druz told me to not smack back and I didn't because I knew my place. I wanted that guy dead badly, and I targeted your ship by mistake. I thought the gank was on and I was pitching a tent through my pajama pants at the thought of getting a few shots off against his interceptor. Nubs screw up - it happens. Nubs that screw up and are in a position to compensate you (and do without pause) aren't so common. The thing was, I'd already paid you for your loss, been removed from a corp that I enjoyed, and made to feel stupid. That's when you started degrading me in local. Was that necessaary? All it did was make you an enemy. What grinds my gears the most is that you failed to realize the difference between a quality newcomer and a temporary idiot who isn't going to stick around in Eve for longer than 3 months. In doing so, you trashed me like a low-potential plebeian. That wasn't cool. Ultimately, you and your corp's blunder in turning on me like that and making me so vehemently anti-pie is on y'all. I was loyal to VHI and felt truly welcomed to the corp as a nub. I would have YAR'd 'till the end of time with you guys. I loved my corp and was excited about learning things and growing with them both as a player and a pirate. Your actions were so polarizing to me that it actually made me change the way I play the game. Congratulations... I guess. So bully for you and your corp in turning a fiercely loyal cadet into a driven player who wishes to do you and the rest of your pirate ilk nothing but harm. Heck - Druz even ransomed me in a belt the other day. I don't care -- ships are cheap and insurance is great. I know I don't stand a chance against him so my firing back was more a joke than anything else. Enjoy the killmail but realize that nubs aren't nubs forever. You guys in VHI have my respect for how you do what you do (sure played me pretty good anyway) and I'll never smack talk about the skills y'all have. Someday the playing field will even out a little bit more. When that day comes I shall meet you with nothing but the nastiest intentions in mind. Like you, I'll just be playing out my chosen path in the game when I do. Fly Safe. -- "Just because you're paranoid - don't mean they're not after you..." -- Kurt Cobain
Splitter Macdung Minmatar Vale Heavy Industries	Posted - 2006.09.22 07:20:00 - [37] Cool. Maybe we'll get a standup fight or two outta this. And I wasnt joking when i said we wouldnta booted you if you had managed to actually blow me up, intsead of just throwing down with the impromtu/accidental "citizens arrest" that let the gate guns get me That whole cheap sucker-punch gank that Debes and his buddy tried had me on edge, even if it had failed, and you picked a real bad time to make a real bad mistake. We always trim the fat quick after a recruiting spree, and you just tepped right in front of the knife . See ya in the belts sweetheart __________________________________ Vale Heavy Industries "We'll Haul Your Stuff For Free"(Because you didnt pay us not to.)

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