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Abyss Jack Serial Chill3rz	Posted - 2006.09.21 10:12:00 - [1] Edited by: Abyss Jack on 21/09/2006 10:13:25 any1 know the raw calulation of lvl4 agents? for example i would like to know the lp payout of q20 agents in 0.0 and q18 in 0.7 (raw without skills and best missions only) sig
Sable Moran Gallente	Posted - 2006.09.21 12:03:00 - [2] No such calculator exists. And won't exist either as long as we don't know the base LP values of missions and what formulas or coefficients are used for calculating the effects of sec rating of the agent system and agents level/quality. It might even be impossible to find out the base LP values for missions because those are determined dynamically over time based on how long it takes people to finish them. ----- Sable's Ammo Shop at Alentene 5, Moon 4, Duvolle Laboratories Factory. Ammo at affordable prices.
Arrs Grazznic Freelancer Association	Posted - 2006.09.21 13:43:00 - [3] You won't be able to work out the base LP for many missions as the rewards are calculated dynamically based upon the average time it takes to complete the missions, however it may be possible to work out the effect of agent quality and system security level on the LP rewards. I looked into this a couple of months ago, but didn't really get very far. There was no simple linear correlation between agent quality and LP rewards. I suspect that an agent's corp size as well as his quality and the system sec level all play a part. Hmm... I may just look into this again, after trying to figure out how the caps on deriveed faction standings are applied... Cheers, Arrs Do you want a sig like this? EVE-mail me or convo me in-game.
Akita T Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2006.09.21 17:01:00 - [4] Things that SURELY influence LP gains for the SAME mission taken from various agents: - TYPE of agent (command give out best LP, sec and intsec next, all others lousy LPs... at least for "kill" missions) - effective quality of agent (base quality + effective agent standing + 5negotiations) - sec rating of system agent is located in Things that PROBABLY (not certainy) influence LP gains: - agent corp size - agent corp type - faction standings - region __ Always question everything. Including yourself.*
Abyss Jack Serial Chill3rz	Posted - 2006.09.21 19:04:00 - [5] lets keep it simple, i just want to know the influence of system security and quality to the base LP (which is unknown ) of lvl4 agents sig
Big Al Free Manure Ask Me How	Posted - 2006.09.21 21:31:00 - [6] Originally by: Abyss Jack lets keep it simple, i just want to know the influence of system security and quality to the base LP (which is unknown ) of lvl4 agents The influence is huge. Figures are with relevant connections skills trained to 4 .7 q16 agent max lp 6k .5 q18 agnet max lp 8k .1 q20 agent max lp 12k I'm sure someone somewhere made a big fancy table with maxes, but those are from my experience.
Sable Moran Gallente	Posted - 2006.09.22 11:42:00 - [7] Originally by: Big Al .7 q16 agent max lp 6k .5 q18 agnet max lp 8k .1 q20 agent max lp 12k .9 l4q18 agent max lp 5200 ----- Sable's Ammo Shop at Alentene 5, Moon 4, Duvolle Laboratories Factory. Ammo at affordable prices.
Depko	Posted - 2006.09.22 13:09:00 - [8] lvl4, (eq=44)q=18, security status=0.9 - maximum was about 4900 LP so far i do however get more LP from Intelligence eq=44 agent than from Command eq=41 agent. both located in 0.9 systems.
Esaka Caldari	Posted - 2006.09.22 14:26:00 - [9] Originally by: Depko lvl4, (eq=44)q=18, security status=0.9 - maximum was about 4900 LP so far i do however get more LP from Intelligence eq=44 agent than from Command eq=41 agent. both located in 0.9 systems. Has the Int Agent a higher (base) Quality then the Command one? I actually don't think that effective Quality has influence on LP and i find it also hard to believe that the Division has any influence. -------------------------------------- Agent & Mission-Info: http://www.eveinfo.com Evewide Market-Info: http://eve-central.com/
Stephar The High Priest	Posted - 2006.09.22 16:03:00 - [10] Edited by: Stephar on 22/09/2006 16:04:31 In any case, I think some folks may find the raw data useful if they want to dig deeper. Here's an overview of my results, from lowest to highest: 4.93 LP/min - Level 3 (Quality 15) - Standing = 9.7 - System Sec = 0.5 (.4795) 5.03 LP/min - Level 3 (Quality 15) - Standing = 9.7 - System Sec = 0.5 (.4795) 5.03 LP/min - Level 3 (Quality 15) - Standing = 9.7 - System Sec = 0.5 (.4795) 5.47 LP/min - Level 3 (Quality 19) - Standing = 9.9 - System Sec = 0.5 (.4795) 5.47 LP/min - Level 3 (Quality 19) - Standing = 9.9 - System Sec = 0.5 (.4795) 5.64 LP/min - Level 3 (Quality 18) - Standing = 9.7 - System Sec = 0.5 (.4684) 7.08 LP/min - Level 4 (Quality 0 ) - Standing = 7.7 - System Sec = 0.7 (.7422) 10.6 LP/min - Level 4 (Quality 10) - Standing = 7.7 - System Sec = 0.7 (.6844) 12.7 LP/min - Level 4 (Quality 15) - Standing = 7.7 - System Sec = 0.6 (.6446) 13.9 LP/min - Level 4 (Quality 13) - Standing = 7.7 - System Sec = 0.5 (.4795) 13.9 LP/min - Level 4 (Quality 13) - Standing = 7.7 - System Sec = 0.5 (.4795) 16.6 LP/min - Level 4 (Quality 18) - Standing = 9.7 - System Sec = 0.5 (.4684) 17.0 LP/min - Level 4 (Quality 18) - Standing = 9.7 - System Sec = 0.5 (.4684) * The true system security is listed in parenthesis after the regular security Theoretical Max LP's can be seen by multipling by 360 (for 360 minutes or 6 hours) and 1.44 (for the 20% * 20% = 44% connections book bonus): 2556 max LP - Level 3 (Quality 15) - Standing = 9.7 - System Sec = 0.5 (.4795) 2608 max LP - Level 3 (Quality 15) - Standing = 9.7 - System Sec = 0.5 (.4795) 2608 max LP - Level 3 (Quality 15) - Standing = 9.7 - System Sec = 0.5 (.4795) 2836 max LP - Level 3 (Quality 19) - Standing = 9.9 - System Sec = 0.5 (.4795) 2836 max LP - Level 3 (Quality 19) - Standing = 9.9 - System Sec = 0.5 (.4795) 2924 max LP - Level 3 (Quality 18) - Standing = 9.7 - System Sec = 0.5 (.4684) 3670 max LP - Level 4 (Quality 0 ) - Standing = 7.7 - System Sec = 0.7 (.7422) 5495 max LP - Level 4 (Quality 10) - Standing = 7.7 - System Sec = 0.7 (.6844) 6584 max LP - Level 4 (Quality 15) - Standing = 7.7 - System Sec = 0.6 (.6446) 7206 max LP - Level 4 (Quality 13) - Standing = 7.7 - System Sec = 0.5 (.4795) 7206 max LP - Level 4 (Quality 13) - Standing = 7.7 - System Sec = 0.5 (.4795) 8605 max LP - Level 4 (Quality 18) - Standing = 9.7 - System Sec = 0.5 (.4684) 8813 max LP - Level 4 (Quality 18) - Standing = 9.7 - System Sec = 0.5 (.4684) Again, there are most definitely flaws with this data. For example, the last two values on the above list came from the same agent... which makes no sense as he should be giving the same LP/min for all missions. This is what leads me to believe there is a hidden "failure rate" value. Perhaps nothing exact can be derived from this data, but it does provide a rough overview for what the LP payout is for agents in the 0.5-0.7 region.

Stephar The High Priest	Posted - 2006.09.22 16:03:00 - [11] I did some quick research on this last night. Here's the raw data: System Security: 0.5 Agent Level (Quality): 3(19) Agent Standing: 9.9 Mission Length: 74 minutes Loyalty Points: 583 Connections bonus: 44% Loyalty points after deducting connection bonus: 404.9 (Base) Loyalty points per minute: 5.47 LP/min System Security: 0.5 Agent Level (Quality): 3(19) Agent Standing: 9.9 Mission Length: 152 minutes Loyalty Points: 1198 Connections bonus: 44% Loyalty points after deducting connection bonus: 831.9 (Base) Loyalty points per minute: 5.47 LP/min System Security: 0.5 Agent Level (Quality): 3(15) Agent Standing: 9.7 Mission Length: 58 minutes Loyalty Points: 420 Connections bonus: 44% Loyalty points after deducting connection bonus: 291.7 (Base) Loyalty points per minute: 5.03 LP/min System Security: 0.5 Agent Level (Quality): 3(15) Agent Standing: 9.7 Mission Length: 50 minutes Loyalty Points: 355 Connections bonus: 44% Loyalty points after deducting connection bonus: 246.5 (Base) Loyalty points per minute: 4.93 LP/min System Security: 0.5 Agent Level (Quality): 3(15) Agent Standing: 9.7 Mission Length: 58 minutes Loyalty Points: 420 Connections bonus: 44% Loyalty points after deducting connection bonus: 291.7 (Base) Loyalty points per minute: 5.03 LP/min System Security: 0.5 Agent Level (Quality): 3(18) Agent Standing: 9.7 Mission Length: 48 minutes Loyalty Points: 325 Connections bonus: 20% Loyalty points after deducting connection bonus: 270.8 (Base) Loyalty points per minute: 5.64 LP/min System Security: 0.5 Agent Level (Quality): 4(13) Agent Standing: 7.7 Mission Length: 296 minutes Loyalty Points: 5903 Connections bonus: 44% Loyalty points after deducting connection bonus: 4987 (Base) Loyalty points per minute: 13.85 LP/min System Security: 0.5 Agent Level (Quality): 4(13) Agent Standing: 7.7 Mission Length: 234 minutes Loyalty Points: 4686 Connections bonus: 44% Loyalty points after deducting connection bonus: 5006 (Base) Loyalty points per minute: 13.91 LP/min System Security: 0.5 Agent Level (Quality): 4(18) Agent Standing: 9.7 Mission Length: 360 minutes Loyalty Points: 7151 Connections bonus: 20% Loyalty points after deducting connection bonus: 5959 (Base) Loyalty points per minute: 16.55 LP/min System Security: 0.5 Agent Level (Quality): 4(18) Agent Standing: 9.7 Mission Length: 32 minutes Loyalty Points: 653 Connections bonus: 20% Loyalty points after deducting connection bonus: 544.2 (Base) Loyalty points per minute: 17.0 LP/min System Security: 0.7 Agent Level (Quality): 4(10) Agent Standing: 7.7 Mission Length: 360 minutes Loyalty Points: 4596 Connections bonus: 20% Loyalty points after deducting connection bonus: 3830 (Base) Loyalty points per minute: 10.64 LP/min System Security: 0.6 Agent Level (Quality): 4(15) Agent Standing: 7.7 Mission Length: 30 minutes Loyalty Points: 547 Connections bonus: 44% Loyalty points after deducting connection bonus: 379.9 (Base) Loyalty points per minute: 12.66 LP/min System Security: 0.7 Agent Level (Quality): 4(0) Agent Standing: 7.7 Mission Length: 32 minutes Loyalty Points: 272 Connections bonus: 20% Loyalty points after deducting connection bonus: 226.7 (Base) Loyalty points per minute: 7.08 LP/min At first, I was going to try and see if I could establish sort of linear relationship. If there is such a relationship, it is including more variables than I took into account, such as true system security, agent "effective" quality, and mission failure rates. I think failure rates may be a factor as I was getting different LP/minute values for the same agent.


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