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Durvaul
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.09.21 12:36:00 -
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Hey Guys, this is just an idea so don't slam me to badly for this
Okay so we all know there are way to many people in empire making systems lag etc so here is my idea
As we know each 0.0 region has alot of systems, and alot fo teh regions cant be reached unless u go through other 0.0 regions / Gate camps
Now personally i think the problem is, is that most people don't want to be in alliances under sumones rule, it's there corp, why should they be *told* what to do? - So here is my idea
In every region of 0.0 - CCP should place 1 system as 0.9 with 2 Stations in every single 0.9 system (1 per region) bang smack in the middle of each 0.0 system.
Newbs and new corps cannot survive in 0.0 without POS or a station to dock in, we all know that most 0.0 stations are alliance owned, so this idea would give in a nut shell, sumwhere for these new corps to base out of into 0.0. Who or what faction would control this 0.9 system in 0.0 would be CCP's choice.
Don't slate me to bad, i was up for along time last nite trying very hard to come up with an idea.
I think this could work and would get more people into 0.0. Also if they make friends with people in the 0.0 regions they base out of the 0.9 Station. They mite join the alliances or NAPS mite be forged.
Anyway, comment away and let's see if CCP like or dislike the idea
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Rina Shanu
Phoenix Knights
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Posted - 2006.09.21 12:41:00 -
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I like candy, I go where candy is..........
If candy too hard to get I settle for a peace of sugar.
If sugar becomes a non option or candy is easier to get back to step 1.
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KFoster
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Posted - 2006.09.21 12:42:00 -
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Edited by: KFoster on 21/09/2006 12:46:26
Bad idea. Bad, bad, bad idea. All jumps out of those 0.9 systems = ubercamped. There'd be absolutely no point going there, because you'd never get out safely :p
It would also drop prices way down in 0.0, as the system would become a market hub for the area. While I like the idea of a market hub, I don't like the risk of going there, or more specifically, getting out again. I also like selling things at stupid prices 
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Krexus
Amarr
Reunited
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Posted - 2006.09.21 12:43:00 -
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Edited by: Krexus on 21/09/2006 12:43:06
Well it's a nice idea offcourse but imho i'd think it would destroy the whole 0.0 idea, a concord bastion in every 0.0 region in just 1 system?
Let alone the gankage the camps etc
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Durvaul
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.09.21 12:46:00 -
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Of course the camps would be there, but if alliances want to grow and get good corps. Its in there interest not to gank anything that wants to try and work in 0.0
And to the first poster, i dont like/live in 0.0 so this is just a genral idea
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Infinity Ziona
Privateers
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Posted - 2006.09.21 12:48:00 -
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Doesnt really make much sense though. Sort of like having a city like Sydney or New York in the middle of the Sahara.
I think a better idea would have been to have thought the whole alliance thing through before they developed and segregated the space into more managable chunks rather then having 1/3 the 0.0 space disappearing the moment someone claims HED-GP etc.
Unfortunately its extremely unlikely they will change the layout again, since they only recently 'improved' it.
Theres a new game out soon apparently called Infinity and its apparently showing more promise then this game of scraping enjoyment out of the little tiny bit that doesnt involve alliance rubbish.
Infinity Ziona
Are Alliances Pushing You Around?
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Major Stormer
Caldari
Demon Womb
Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.21 12:53:00 -
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Originally by: Durvaul
Hey Guys, this is just an idea so don't slam me to badly for this
Okay so we all know there are way to many people in empire making systems lag etc so here is my idea
As we know each 0.0 region has alot of systems, and alot fo teh regions cant be reached unless u go through other 0.0 regions / Gate camps
Now personally i think the problem is, is that most people don't want to be in alliances under sumones rule, it's there corp, why should they be *told* what to do? - So here is my idea
In every region of 0.0 - CCP should place 1 system as 0.9 with 2 Stations in every single 0.9 system (1 per region) bang smack in the middle of each 0.0 system.
Newbs and new corps cannot survive in 0.0 without POS or a station to dock in, we all know that most 0.0 stations are alliance owned, so this idea would give in a nut shell, sumwhere for these new corps to base out of into 0.0. Who or what faction would control this 0.9 system in 0.0 would be CCP's choice.
Don't slate me to bad, i was up for along time last nite trying very hard to come up with an idea.
I think this could work and would get more people into 0.0. Also if they make friends with people in the 0.0 regions they base out of the 0.9 Station. They mite join the alliances or NAPS mite be forged.
Anyway, comment away and let's see if CCP like or dislike the idea
What a wasted night :( you could have been having sex you know.
1) those systems: camped to hell.
2) noobs can manage in 0.0, secure containers, NPC stations, etc.
3) loooool.
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Tarazed Aquilae
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Posted - 2006.09.21 13:51:00 -
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It really isnĘt a bad idea. With an island of two or three high security systems there could be quite a few gates back into 0.0 space. They would be camped but not all gates would be covered all the time. The problem is that 0.0 wasnĘt designed that way. Changes like this would severely disrupt the game for the existing alliances.
However, there are eight new regions of 0.0 space going active sometime soon. Making one constellation in each high security, with stations and supplies would be pretty good. At least it would be a change.
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Scrofalitic One
Total Warehouse Logistics
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.21 13:56:00 -
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OK, I have to say I think the OP's idea is silly! Not a flame, just the best description I can come up with.
I would like to point out to all people worried about alliance rule that there are a LOT of 0.0 zones that have NPC controlled stations, meaning that if you can get there then you are free to dock, refine, manufacture etc etc to your hearts content without worrying about the alliance that nominally controls the area.
Of course you might get camped & ganked, but thats 0.0 for you. With a little imagination and (admittedly) a little luck you can set you and your corp up in a NPC station and theres not a lot anyone can do to winkle you out of it.
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Betonela
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2006.09.21 14:00:00 -
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not good reason to go on 00
the megacyte is only @ 4k ISK [:puke:] Linkage
get the mineral at real price and i get alot more ppl there
more miners more pirates and so more targets for u soo all happy
and accept n00bs on 00 corps
more money = good reason
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Major Stormer
Caldari
Demon Womb
Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.21 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: Betonela
not good reason to go on 00
the megacyte is only @ 4k ISK [:puke:] Linkage
get the mineral at real price and i get alot more ppl there
more miners more pirates and so more targets for u soo all happy
and accept n00bs on 00 corps
more money = good reason
Who are you?
1) everything is expensive in 0.0.
2) if people "pirate" in 0.0 full time, then they are really bad at it....
3) many corps do.
4) money is easly made in 0.0...and easly lost.
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Raquel Smith
Caldari
Ferengi Commerce Authority
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Posted - 2006.09.21 14:43:00 -
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Originally by: Durvaul
Now personally i think the problem is, is that most people don't want to be in alliances under sumones rule, it's there corp, why should they be *told* what to do? - So here is my idea
You're wrong. I don't want to be forced to PVP.
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.09.21 15:08:00 -
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Edited by: Plutoinum on 21/09/2006 15:10:15
Originally by: Infinity Ziona
Theres a new game out soon apparently called Infinity and its apparently showing more promise then this game of scraping enjoyment out of the little tiny bit that doesnt involve alliance rubbish.
Infinity Ziona
Will be interesting to see, how they solve the pvp vs. carebear problem. Many games reduce pvp to consensual fun fights that have no real impact on the game universe and that's boring imho.
You can have the best game engine and content, but if you make a combat game and force players to play mainly in harmony in cooperate mode against npcs, then you lose a lot of athmosphere.
You need the 'We vs. them' pvp moment to get interesting conflicts, politics etc., otherwise it's just another game about developing a char, copllecting stuff and getting wealthy, the goal that everyone follows. But let's wait and see, what the Infinity guys deliver.
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.09.21 15:11:00 -
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This certainly would be the buff to piracy that pirates have been looking for :)
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Infinity Ziona
Privateers
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Posted - 2006.09.21 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: Plutoinum
Edited by: Plutoinum on 21/09/2006 15:10:15
Originally by: Infinity Ziona
Theres a new game out soon apparently called Infinity and its apparently showing more promise then this game of scraping enjoyment out of the little tiny bit that doesnt involve alliance rubbish.
Infinity Ziona
Will be interesting to see, how they solve the pvp vs. carebear problem. Many games reduce pvp to consensual fun fights that have no real impact on the game universe and that's boring imho.
You can have the best game engine and content, but if you make a combat game and force players to play mainly in harmony in cooperate mode against npcs, then you lose a lot of athmosphere.
You need the 'We vs. them' pvp moment to get interesting conflicts, politics etc., otherwise it's just another game about developing a char, copllecting stuff and getting wealthy, the goal that everyone follows. But let's wait and see, what the Infinity guys deliver.
Yup.
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Jonas Darkstar
Amarr
Darkstar Services
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Posted - 2006.09.21 16:30:00 -
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Bad very bad.
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Laythun
Contraband Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.21 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: Raquel Smith
Originally by: Durvaul
Now personally i think the problem is, is that most people don't want to be in alliances under sumones rule, it's there corp, why should they be *told* what to do? - So here is my idea
You're wrong. I don't want to be forced to PVP.
LOL.
classic.
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Kaiu
Hinkledolph and K Associates
The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2006.09.21 16:39:00 -
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Awful idea.
It would be one giant target for just about everyone to come gank these 'individualist' corps. 
Theres a ton of NPC stations for these corps. to use
Theyre just cowards and dont use them ;)
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000Hunter000
Gallente
Dummy Inc.
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Posted - 2006.09.21 16:53:00 -
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meh the corps would just get wardeclared with an ultimatum, either leave, or sign up with the big alliance on the block.
a lot more entries into 0.0 and better stuff in a lot more 0.0 systems would prolly work much better cuz then smaller corps can sneak in more easily, have a quick mining/hunting ops and leave if they are threatened, i know the alliances will whine that then they can't defend 'their' space so perhaps have parts of 0.0 only accessible by 1 or 2 gates and other parts accessible by dozens of gates so the alliances can still have their 'empire'
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So'l Xiua
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Posted - 2006.09.21 17:04:00 -
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What about a no concord response day?  Yarrrr!
for 24, 48, 72 hours Concord is undergoing retooling, maintance at there local Ford dealers. They will not respond. Therefore all space has become 0.0
Bad idea period...
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d'hofren
Queens of the Stone Age
Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.09.21 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: 000Hunter000
meh the corps would just get wardeclared with an ultimatum, either leave, or sign up with the big alliance on the block.
a lot more entries into 0.0 and better stuff in a lot more 0.0 systems would prolly work much better cuz then smaller corps can sneak in more easily, have a quick mining/hunting ops and leave if they are threatened, i know the alliances will whine that then they can't defend 'their' space so perhaps have parts of 0.0 only accessible by 1 or 2 gates and other parts accessible by dozens of gates so the alliances can still have their 'empire'
A lot more ways in means a lot more pirates and pvp types heading in as well. Without your friendly local alliance pvpers to defend you and keep things safe you will be eaten alive.
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Tramp Oline
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Posted - 2006.09.21 17:54:00 -
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Edited by: Tramp Oline on 21/09/2006 17:54:37
CCP has already provided areas that are perfect for a progression to 0.0.
That's what regions like Stain are for.
It's basically a 0.0 training ground. You have lots of NPC stations, great high bounty NPCs to kill, pirate faction agents and slightly better than empire ores. It's a great place to learn how to survive.
With jump clones, jump drive carriers and all the npc stations, there is no reason why a freelancer can not live in Stain in relative peace.
Regions like Stain have been shown to be impossible for an alliance to control. If you stay off the main travel routes, don't provide the PvPers with what they want the most (a fight), and keep your eyes on Local you can live a fairly quietly in 0.0.
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Vanlade
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.09.21 17:57:00 -
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NoÖ
- Vanlade
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Akita T
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2006.09.21 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: Durvaul
Newbs and new corps cannot survive in 0.0 without POS or a station to dock in, we all know that most 0.0 stations are alliance owned, so this idea would give in a nut shell, sumwhere for these new corps to base out of into 0.0. Who or what faction would control this 0.9 system in 0.0 would be CCP's choice.
OR you could just make it so that almost any new corp CAN afford a very low-tech version of a station/POS :)
CIVILIAN POS idea ;)
Read up, you might love it.
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