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Hundo Kay
Great White North Exploration
Gryphon League
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Posted - 2011.11.30 17:37:00 -
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Jim Hooknose wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:Standings are based on corp to corp standings, not individual players. They are also delayed by about 5 mins so if you just changed them then it will take a moment for the customs office to recognise them. When may we adjust high sec tax rates? They are terribly broken. ETA on fix plz.
Wow great hijack when there are already multiple other thread to go cry in. |
Hundo Kay
Great White North Exploration
Gryphon League
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Posted - 2011.11.30 18:47:00 -
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Dear thread hijacker
I suggest you go back to playing hello kitty treasure Island as it's more suited to people who don't understand math and economics |
Hundo Kay
Great White North Exploration
Gryphon League
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Posted - 2011.11.30 21:19:00 -
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Jim Hooknose wrote:Hundo Kay wrote:Dear thread hijacker
I suggest you go back to playing hello kitty treasure Island as it's more suited to people who don't understand math and economics I get it. You don't care and I should "HTFU". That's exactly what makes this game awesome: it's outstanding community  Here is my take-away from this: PI is a dead career path. POCOs are yet another tool for huge alliances to make even more ISK. POS owners and WH dwellers get kidney punched too. It's all working as intended. So here is my revised question for CCP: may I remap my PI SP? Seeing as how it is basically as outdated as the Learning skills were. I would take a reduced number of SP even; maybe for every 2 PI SP I get 1 SP. Sounds fair.
Sadly you don't get it.
I don't care if you STFU or not, but rather I wish you understood the situation, the math, and the economics before coming to the forum and posting in every available thread that CCP broke PI and the career is dead.
Your analogy is so wrong on so many levels its sad to me.
1) The tax is not 250%. It was like 1% and now its between 15% and 25% of the value of the product.
2) You are not selling Waffles. You are selling a fuel essential to the majority of Industrial endeavors in the game.
3) Demand is not going down antime soon unless you believe that Alliances, Corps and Individuals making the majority of their ISK are going to fold shop and emo rage quit over a 15-20% increase in their Fuel costs. Past price changes have not resulted in this so there is no reason to assume this will either.
4) PI is not the domain of Large Alliances only. I know plenty of small corps and groups doing PI for steady income.
5) Yes this favors W-space, Low sec and Null over High Sec, as it should be. You should not be able to run as profitable a business in near complete safety as one who takes risks by living outside CONCORD areas.
6) PI is in no way a dead career path. Sure it might not be as profitable in HS as it was, but I am willing to bet there will still be isk to be made in HS for those who look.
7) How do think POCO's are going to be money makers for alliances? They are going to set the tax level near 0% for their people, which means they save 1 to 2% over the old cost. Low sec will be interesting. POCO's will not be money makers, butrather Tax avoiders.
So in the end, I don't really care if you want to come in hear and cry about CCP and PI, but I would love it if you actually knew what you were talking about more than the average basement dweller. |
Hundo Kay
Great White North Exploration
Gryphon League
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Posted - 2011.12.01 03:03:00 -
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Jim Hooknose wrote:Fuujin wrote:Yeah, those guys in null have it easy, with having to defend their stuff and not having invincible NPCs protecting them and having stuff in stations that they could get locked out of.
No one got rich taking the safe and cushy route. Oh null sec is risky. It's also not where I want to play eve. I don't mind it having better rewards than empire but this is ridiculous. CCP if you want to force us into null sec then just drop the pretense. Make every system low/null sec, that is obviously what you want to do. Of course this means a lot of people will quit but HEY that has never matter to you before so why should it matter now?
No one is forcing you to move to Null. There are plenty of ways to make a load of money in High Sec, and believe me there will still be ways to make isk in PI in High Sec. Will it be obvious and as much as before? Maybe, maybe not.
Think like a business person, put some effort into looking at the markets, and you will find places in PI to make isk.
Demand is not going anywhere, as people are not going to fold POS's in droves over a 15-20% cost increase.
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Hundo Kay
Great White North Exploration
Gryphon League
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Posted - 2011.12.01 04:21:00 -
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I would like to see one example of an item where the tax (not the index ty) is 2.5x the value of the item and is not a hold over from NPC days and no one in their right mind should be producing, so please don't use Planetary Vehicles as your example.
I am not arguing that prices will not go up, but rather the notion that some how this new tax has killed the PI career.
And yes I will see you in 6 months when my happy gang of misfits is still chugging out PI materials at a very nice profit because we understand business dynamics and, wait for it, MAKE WHAT SELLS FOR A PROFIT.
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