Can anyone help with customs offices standings?

I've got tax to Blue's set to 0% neutrals to 5% and Reds 100%

But the problem is that my alt (Dark blue) has 0% tax (correct) my friend who is dark blue is getting 5%

I've checked standings to me personally, and to my corp, and all the toons are set dark blue.

I can't see a reason why they are getting different tax rates :(

Any ideas guys?

Standings are based on corp to corp standings, not individual players. They are also delayed by about 5 mins so if you just changed them then it will take a moment for the customs office to recognise them.

When may we adjust high sec tax rates? They are terribly broken. ETA on fix plz.

Wow great hijack when there are already multiple other thread to go cry in.

This one has a recent dev post in it. I assume since CCP released this PI nightmare they aren't paying close attention to what players want... only makes sense to grab their attention when you can.

This one has a recent dev post in it. I assume since CCP released this PI nightmare they aren't paying close attention to what players want... only makes sense to grab their attention when you can.

Since they synced to the average value of these goods, wha'ts your problem? They told you the taxes were going up. HTFU or go get your own gantries if you don't like the taxes.

and if you say "it cuts into my profit margin" then start selling the stuff for more - the markets will adjust just fine within a week or two. It's not rocket science.

This one has a recent dev post in it. I assume since CCP released this PI nightmare they aren't paying close attention to what players want... only makes sense to grab their attention when you can.

Let's say I sell waffle irons in real life. The government decides to add a 250% tax to waffle irons because... well to hell with all those waffle people, I want pancakes darn it... anyway... So I up the prices of my waffle irons to match the tax increase.

You know what the consumer then does...

HE NEVER BUYS THE WAFFLE IRONS.

Supply goes up, demand goes down down down. I sell my waffle iron business and start making pancakes?

No, if my idiotic government actually made this tax I'll just move to another country (MMO in this metaphor).

Let's say I sell waffle irons in real life. The government decides to add a 250% tax to waffle irons because... well to hell with all those waffle people, I want pancakes darn it... anyway... So I up the prices of my waffle irons to match the tax increase.

You know what the consumer then does...

HE NEVER BUYS THE WAFFLE IRONS.

Supply goes up, demand goes down down down. I sell my waffle iron business and start making pancakes?

No, if my idiotic government actually made this tax I'll just move to another country (MMO in this metaphor).

Let's say I sell waffle irons in real life. The government decides to add a 250% tax to waffle irons because... well to hell with all those waffle people, I want pancakes darn it... anyway... So I up the prices of my waffle irons to match the tax increase.

You know what the consumer then does...

HE NEVER BUYS THE WAFFLE IRONS.

Supply goes up, demand goes down down down. I sell my waffle iron business and start making pancakes?

No, if my idiotic government actually made this tax I'll just move to another country (MMO in this metaphor).

Dear thread hijacker

I suggest you go back to playing hello kitty treasure Island as it's more suited to people who don't understand math and economics

Standings are based on corp to corp standings, not individual players. They are also delayed by about 5 mins so if you just changed them then it will take a moment for the customs office to recognise them.

I get it. You don't care and I should "HTFU". That's exactly what makes this game awesome: it's outstanding community

Here is my take-away from this: PI is a dead career path. POCOs are yet another tool for huge alliances to make even more ISK. POS owners and WH dwellers get kidney punched too. It's all working as intended.

So here is my revised question for CCP: may I remap my PI SP? Seeing as how it is basically as outdated as the Learning skills were. I would take a reduced number of SP even; maybe for every 2 PI SP I get 1 SP. Sounds fair.

7) How do think POCO's are going to be money makers for alliances? They are going to set the tax level near 0% for their people, which means they save 1 to 2% over the old cost. Low sec will be interesting. POCO's will not be money makers, but rather Tax avoiders.

I had a response to your whole reply but the forum nicked it so I'll respond to what got my attention the most.



What is the different between getting a $1,000 a year raise and saving $1,000 on your mortgage? Effectively: nothing. They both end the year with you having an additional $1,000 in your pockets.

By being a "tax avoider" they make the null sec more ISK, which seems to be the sole motivating factor to CCP. They give those alliances a competitive edge over anyone in empire, or low sec even. How can anyone in empire PI compete with the prices some jagoff in null can put out? They can't.

No, PI isn't a dead career. It's just dead in everywhere except null sec and parts of low sec.

Yeah, those guys in null have it easy, with having to defend their stuff and not having invincible NPCs protecting them and having stuff in stations that they could get locked out of.

No one got rich taking the safe and cushy route.

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7) How do think POCO's are going to be money makers for alliances? They are going to set the tax level near 0% for their people, which means they save 1 to 2% over the old cost. Low sec will be interesting. POCO's will not be money makers, butrather Tax avoiders.

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Oh null sec is risky. It's also not where I want to play eve. I don't mind it having better rewards than empire but this is ridiculous.

CCP if you want to force us into null sec then just drop the pretense. Make every system low/null sec, that is obviously what you want to do. Of course this means a lot of people will quit but HEY that has never matter to you before so why should it matter now?

Sadly you don't get it.

I don't care if you STFU or not, but rather I wish you understood the situation, the math, and the economics before coming to the forum and posting in every available thread that CCP broke PI and the career is dead.

Your analogy is so wrong on so many levels its sad to me.

1) The tax is not 250%. It was like 1% and now its between 15% and 25% of the value of the product.

2) You are not selling Waffles. You are selling a fuel essential to the majority of Industrial endeavors in the game.

3) Demand is not going down antime soon unless you believe that Alliances, Corps and Individuals making the majority of their ISK are going to fold shop and emo rage quit over a 15-20% increase in their Fuel costs. Past price changes have not resulted in this so there is no reason to assume this will either.

4) PI is not the domain of Large Alliances only. I know plenty of small corps and groups doing PI for steady income.

So in the end, I don't really care if you want to come in hear and cry about CCP and PI, but I would love it if you actually knew what you were talking about more than the average basement dweller.

I would like to see one example of an item where the tax (not the index ty) is 2.5x the value of the item and is not a hold over from NPC days and no one in their right mind should be producing, so please don't use Planetary Vehicles as your example.

I am not arguing that prices will not go up, but rather the notion that some how this new tax has killed the PI career.

And yes I will see you in 6 months when my happy gang of misfits is still chugging out PI materials at a very nice profit because we understand business dynamics and, wait for it, MAKE WHAT SELLS FOR A PROFIT.

Standings are based on corp to corp standings, not individual players. They are also delayed by about 5 mins so if you just changed them then it will take a moment for the customs office to recognise them.