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Joe Starbreaker
Starbreaker and Sons
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Posted - 2015.01.18 20:22:55 -
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Hi all, I've never played EVE or any other highly graphical games on anything but a desktop computer, but I'm curious about the possibility of gaming laptops. I guess I just never believed it was possible for a laptop to really perform adequately for gaming, but I was talking to a guy in Best Buy who swears they're up to the task.
So I'd like to ask if anyone out there is playing EVE on a laptop, and what do you think of it? Can the $1200 models handle it? Can you run all the high-end effects? What about running two instances of EVE at the same time, i.e. a main character and an alt?
I'm a Windows and Linux user, but if you're playing EVE on a Mac laptop I'd also be interested to hear about it.
I have three kids under age 4, who love pulling on wires and pushing switches in the back of the computer, so it'd be great to make the switch if this option is really usable. |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
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Posted - 2015.01.18 20:38:12 -
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It may be outdated, but my best advice on laptops for gaming is: buy a desktop PC.
Gaming means heat and heat kills laptops. So either your laptop can't die of heat because it's not useful for gaming, or it does gaming at the expense of its lifespan.
Now, if you want to play EVE and just EVE, it haves very basic system requirements so probably a laptop could run it without being suit for gaming.
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Joe Starbreaker
Starbreaker and Sons
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Posted - 2015.01.18 20:45:45 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:It may be outdated, but my best advice on laptops for gaming is: buy a desktop PC. .
Your advice matches my intuition, but I am old and remember laptops that I bought in the 1990s and 2000s. Maybe we are indeed outdated. I'd like to hear what the young whippersnappers think about the issue.
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Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
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Posted - 2015.01.18 21:09:44 -
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for 1200 you should find something that can pull games well.
Make sure you are going for dual fans separate for cpu and gpu w separate heat pipes as well so you don't torture laptop w heat also try not to break any frame rate records and you will be fine.
Asus "ROG" series comes to mind. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2015.01.18 22:02:03 -
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Joe Starbreaker wrote:
I have three kids under age 4, who love pulling on wires and pushing switches in the back of the computer, so it'd be great to make the switch if this option is really usable.
You'd be better off to learn how to kid-proof your home and stick with a desktop.
If you are used to a decent monitor, the 13" to 17" of a laptop will drive you bonkers. I often log in on a 13" laptop just to set up market orders and it drives me nuts. I can't even imagine trying to do combat on one.
I manged to raise two kids a year apart and never had a problem with them pulling out plugs and poking around under my desk. The worst I had was trying to clean the drool off the keyboard and mouse. And that was with a full HOTAS set up for combat flight sims.
Mr Epeen 
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Joe Starbreaker
Starbreaker and Sons
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Posted - 2015.01.18 22:39:39 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:You'd be better off to learn how to kid-proof your home
Let me tell you, there's no such thing. They could hurt themselves and break things in a padded cell with styrofoam popcorn up to your knees. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.19 00:44:54 -
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Joe Starbreaker wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:You'd be better off to learn how to kid-proof your home Let me tell you, there's no such thing. They could hurt themselves and break things in a padded cell with styrofoam popcorn up to your knees.
i have twin 4yold boys,
a tower will be much harder to hurt than a laptop...
that they can pick up and throw...
and hit each other with...
(r.i.p think pad)
unless you want it for travel (lol)
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Joe Starbreaker
Star Frontiers
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.01.19 01:01:24 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
a tower will be much harder to hurt than a laptop...
that they can pick up and throw...
and hit each other with...
(r.i.p think pad)
True, but at least in theory you can fold the laptop up and put it on a high shelf.
Just remember never to get up and go to the bathroom or answer the phone, while the laptop is out, without locking the boys in their room first.
Anyway as I said, my own intuition agrees with yours -- that a laptop isn't going to be adequate for gaming -- and I made this thread because I want to find out from those with actual experience whether I might be wrong.
I'm hoping somebody will post and say "yes, I'm playing EVE on a Brand X laptop and it works great" or the contrary. |
Zeko Rena
ENCOM Industries
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Posted - 2015.01.19 01:03:43 -
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I had a "gaming laptop" once, it sucked and died after a few months.
In my honest opinion there is no such thing as a gaming laptop, my rather new work laptop gets hot just running windows 8.1 and Microsoft Office.
I would recommend building a new desktop machine. |
Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
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Posted - 2015.01.19 05:55:11 -
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Quote:Anyway as I said, my own intuition agrees with yours -- that a laptop isn't going to be adequate for gaming -- and I made this thread because I want to find out from those with actual experience whether I might be wrong.
I'm hoping somebody will post and say "yes, I'm playing EVE on a Brand X laptop and it works great" or the contrary.
Here are some pics of eve 2 acc in fixed window mode
Client a
Client b
Short vid of Far cry 4 fairly new game does not show much just how fluid or not it is w some explosions.
Lapy run
And here is what runs it(i upgraded ram w 2 additional rip jaw sticks of same size) it is over half year old so similar lapy should be cheaper some.
Mobile rig
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Joe Starbreaker
Star Frontiers
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.01.19 06:18:46 -
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Looks good, thanks.
And I guess I've got to check out Far Cry 4! |
Debora Tsung
Die Woge des Wahnsinns
Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
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Posted - 2015.01.19 08:44:49 -
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Joe Starbreaker wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:It may be outdated, but my best advice on laptops for gaming is: buy a desktop PC. . Your advice matches my intuition, but I am old and remember laptops that I bought in the 1990s and 2000s. Maybe we are indeed outdated. I'd like to hear what the young whippersnappers think about the issue. It's feasible, just make sure your laptop is an a smooth hard surface... like a desk. so it can vent the heat properly.
If you try to use that ona couch you'll either get your thighs burned or your laptop kills itselfs and sets something afire in the process. No kidding on the burned skin tho I haven't checked on the set things afire part.
Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.19 09:15:14 -
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I played EVE on a Dell XPS Gen 2 laptop from 2005. As long as it doesn't use integrated video, you should be fine.
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Solecist Project
Weapons of Mass Distraction
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Posted - 2015.01.19 11:09:54 -
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I recently bought me a MSI GE60 for 720 bucks.
Cheap, but fast! :D
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DaReaper
Net 7
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Posted - 2015.01.19 18:05:55 -
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Here I go:
I have a desktop that plays eve.. but that's not this topic
I also have:
Asus (I forget the model, its not right in front of me) with an i7, nividia card (again not in front of me) with 2gb of dedicated ram, and 8 gigs of ram. I got it for 999 at best buy, and it plays eve well. Though I have not done a lot with it, as I need to hoop up my mouse, but one client on high did not lag.
I also have an Asus t200ta (transformer book) and in testing it played eve on low settings with not much lag. But I don't think i'll use it for eve for more then checking mail, market, and maybe scanning.
Honestly, most can handle eve on low settings if the graphics is not integrated. I had two integrated laptops and they would choke on eve.
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Black Panpher
Ganja Inc
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Posted - 2015.01.19 18:26:34 -
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I used to use a MSI gaming laptop, it was great until it melted. |
Joe Starbreaker
Star Frontiers
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.01.19 18:38:04 -
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Solecist Project wrote:I recently bought me a MSI GE60 for 720 bucks.
Cheap, but fast! :D
Did you ever try running two clients at once, i.e. a main and an alt? |
Solecist Project
Weapons of Mass Distraction
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Posted - 2015.01.19 18:41:41 -
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Joe Starbreaker wrote:Solecist Project wrote:I recently bought me a MSI GE60 for 720 bucks.
Cheap, but fast! :D Did you ever try running two clients at once, i.e. a main and an alt?
I ran three clients at low settings on a seperate screen with 1920x1080.
Each client at around 1060x1050 ...
... on a much older machine.
This one should run them on high easily.
Dedicating CPU to each client helps to.
It's a tad loud under load though. :)
Ralph King-Griffin > **** you sol, years, ****ing years since thats happend
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Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
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Posted - 2015.01.19 18:44:57 -
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Black Panpher wrote:I used to use a MSI gaming laptop, it was great until it melted.
Old types of Dominator or such those thing are single fan w arctic blast boost cool me long time...... translation it will melt thermal paste within a year and than will eat silicon in chips,and die on desktop screen due to temps.....
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jason hill
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.01.19 19:24:32 -
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wife bought an alienware ( read this as a souped up Dell. which is essentially what it is ) it cost around -ú1000 .. runs all her games without any problems at all in addition to all her own work stuff ...
seriously considering getting one meslelf as you can custom hardware the laptop specs so if you do it right as in less HDD space but more ram and memory it be done relatively reasonably price wise .
im an IT hardware /software engineer so I allways keep a keen eye on this stuff...I have to ..its my job |
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Hengle Teron
Just Another Corp XIV
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Posted - 2015.01.19 22:01:49 -
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buying a laptop is paying double the money for any of the hardware and still looking at so small screen that you were throwing out 10 years ago |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.19 23:53:53 -
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when it was time to see about replacing the video card in that dell laptop, the disassembly defeated my will to live.
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Debora Tsung
Die Woge des Wahnsinns
Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
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Posted - 2015.01.20 07:36:15 -
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Rain6637 wrote:when it was time to see about replacing the video card in that dell laptop, the disassembly defeated my will to live. That about sums up the sole purpose of 90% of all gaming laptops.
Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Fighting back is more fun than not.
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jason hill
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.01.20 19:00:13 -
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Hengle Teron wrote:buying a laptop is paying double the money for any of the hardware and still looking at so small screen that you were throwing out 10 years ago
not strictly true ive never come across a single laptop that you couldn't plug a monitor into ..which is what im looking at right now everybody in our company without exception of 12 thousand UK employees has this functionality ...and how much is a bog standard 22" led flat screen monitor these days .. not that much when you look around . |
Joe Starbreaker
Star Frontiers
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.01.20 19:30:43 -
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jason hill wrote:not strictly true ive never come across a single laptop that you couldn't plug a monitor into ..which is what im
looking at right now everybody in our company without exception of 12 thousand UK employees has this functionality ...and how much is a bog standard 22" led flat screen monitor these days .. not that much when you look around .
I also noticed that the 17" laptops generally seem to have 1920x1080 pixels, whereas my current desktop screens are 1680x1050 despite being probably 22" or more. So Mina's screenshots (above) actually have better resolution and more detail than I'm currently seeing in EVE. Might have to hunch over a little more to see the details though!
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Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
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Posted - 2015.01.21 18:09:37 -
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Is HP Omen any good?
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Mehrune Khan
Viziam
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.21 18:36:25 -
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As said repeatedly above, laptops aren't the best gaming platform. That said, if you are dead set on getting a laptop for gaming purposes, I would recommend getting an Asus Republic of Gamers. These laptops run around $1k+ and I believe all of them have decent dedicated graphics cards (for a laptop).
This is a nice one
That one is just under $1100, and has a Intel I7 CPU, a 2gb Nvidia GTX860M graphics card, 16gb of RAM, and a 256gb SSD drive. You could get a desktop that is better, but for a laptop this is a pretty good deal. I would recommend this model over others simply for the fact that it comes with an SSD instead of a mechanical drive, which is a huge plus.
There are of course cheaper laptops out there, but they probably won't be as nice as this one. Newegg is a great place to go and compare laptops. They list all the specs so it's easy to compare different ones.
Also I try to steer people away from Alienware whenever possible - they are over-priced for what you get. I admit they are nice, and if you get an new Alienware machine you can game on it, but you will be paying more for the fancy name than the parts. |
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