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Ogdru Jahad
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.09.22 18:51:00 -
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Well after reading the exploits thread I have had my thoughts confirmed.
6/10. 8/10 & 10/10 plex's leave lvl4 mission income for dead.
How can these so called 0.0 plex farmers moan and groan about lvl 4 missions when they are whoring plexs like they do?
yes I have access to 0.0 plex's
In futre you total fecktards. look in your own back yard b4 looking in a mission runners front yard for income.
NERF PLEX'S!!!! all of them 
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Siri Blue
Gallente
Duvolle Laboratories Blue Division
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Posted - 2006.09.22 18:55:00 -
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Transform all Complexes in agent generated mission deadspaces.
This way noone can just farm them and the rewards will be crappier (just cause CCP loves crappy mission rewards).
I really mean this, there is no need for fixed complexes that can be camped 23/7.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.22 18:55:00 -
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Nevermind that level 4 missions can be done easily solo while high-end complexes can't. Or the fact that level 4 missions can be done in safety in Jita while complex-runners can be surprise-raided at nearly any time.
Yes, some complexes are farmed. But that doesn't mean complexes as a whole are a problem.
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Ediz Daxx
FinFleet
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.22 18:56:00 -
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Have you seen any complex *****s complain about missions? Please give me a link.
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Siri Blue
Gallente
Duvolle Laboratories Blue Division
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Posted - 2006.09.22 18:57:00 -
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Originally by: Siri Blue
Transform all Complexes in agent generated mission deadspaces.
This way noone can just farm them and the rewards will be crappier (just cause CCP loves crappy mission rewards).
I really mean this, there is no need for fixed complexes that can be camped 23/7.
(OFC high end 0.0 complexes would be some kind of 0.0 only lvl 5 mission)
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Nafri
Caldari
Cataclysm Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.22 18:58:00 -
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Complex exploiters ~ 50 people
lvl4 mission grinders ~ 5000 people
From Dusk till Dawn
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Nanobotter Mk2
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Posted - 2006.09.22 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Nafri
Complex exploiters ~ 50 people
lvl4 mission grinders ~ 5000 people
Complex exploiter's = billions a day
Level 4 mission grinders = 10 mill per hour heh.
Sorry gonna call BS on the person suggesting complex runners are at much risk. You need key to get at them, they farm all the keys thus they are pretty much 100% safe in the complex.
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Languid Engrid
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Posted - 2006.09.22 19:19:00 -
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NERF EVE!
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.09.22 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Nevermind that level 4 missions can be done easily solo while high-end complexes can't. Or the fact that level 4 missions can be done in safety in Jita while complex-runners can be surprise-raided at nearly any time.
Yes, some complexes are farmed. But that doesn't mean complexes as a whole are a problem.
I can think of a few complexes where niether you nor anyone else, short of using a boarder-line exploit (which may or may not work, I've never tested it, only BR'd it) will ever beable to touch me in quite a few complexes.
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LaCoHa
Caldari Deep Space Navy
Caldari Deep Space Industral
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Posted - 2006.09.22 20:28:00 -
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the guy that said "Nerf Eve" is right...
Either that, or leave everything alone. please.
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Phoenix Lonestar
Litanies of Hate
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Posted - 2006.09.22 20:39:00 -
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That's a fair point.... I used to solo a 6/10 down in Minmatar space quite frequently. It was quite profitable. Maybe 10 mil per run, not including the overseer loot (another 10 mil), the loot drops on ships, plus the odd cynabal BPC that would appear (160 mil ftw). If you're smart, you have almost 0 risk down in a plex, because you're checking local for newcomers... especially in low traffic systems. Once you get to know the common folk running through there, your safety is virtually guaranteed. I went back to mission running because I wanted to get my standings up for jump clone purposes. It was far more profitable to run the plex than to do lvl 4 mishes. Plus lvl 4 mishes don't drop the expensive loot as frequently as the plex spawns. I'm lucky if I get 1 item worth 1 mil during a lvl 4 mish.
TBH though, I doubt the plex runners are the ones complaining about lvl 4 mishes. Guys who farm the plexes have the same mentality... whatever makes me money. The people complaining about the lvl 4 mishes are the people down in 0.0 and low sec who can't get into empire, and want everyone to be forced down there to be killed by them. They're sick of killing the same people infrequently. They want more targets for more profits selling their modules/ransoming them.
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Snork Mungram
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Posted - 2006.09.22 23:09:00 -
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Nerf stupid people?
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Sergeant Spot
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.22 23:21:00 -
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Edited by: Sergeant Spot on 22/09/2006 23:23:36
A 10/10 Complex that generates about 1 or 2 billion a day is about right.
Level 4 missions in secure space with a MINIMUM of their current reward is fine. (in fact, hauling missions need to be fixed, especially on standings awards)
It takes a true idiot to insist that everyone play the game the exact same way. If some folks want to live in secure space, I have no problem with it, I bear them no ill will, and I wish them a profitable and fun game.
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Sorja
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.09.23 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
level 4 missions can be done easily solo while high-end complexes can't.
It is possible to run 10/10 complexes solo. It requires a hell of a ship (mostly officer fitted), but it can be done.
If complexes didn't respawn exactly after downtime and were not so static, people wouldn't complain about them and actually could have a go at them.
CCP removed the 'resupply after DT' from traders, it can be done for complexes too.
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