All we need is a little Sugar.

That's just it. FW is in a good place, partly because of the mechanics. Partly b/c of the people. From a business perspective, ccp should want to capitalize on such proven success stories. Further, how can it be made even better?

I don't mean to pose that question here. I know many a threadnaught exist devoted to it. I merely wish to say that the ideas this part of the eve community possesses are highly valuable to the game as a whole. Some of the well balanced opinions of people here would add great value and make fw lowsec an even more vibrant place.

Take the leadership of your corp and alliance for example. Their commitment to and understanding of how to draw so many pilots, train them, keep them logging in and fighting...makes FW fun. At least for me. CCP could learn from such experience...and should, bc its a money maker.

I don't mean to single out your corp and leadership, though perhaps they should consider the idea. I am certain there are others with similar talent who garner the respect of the entire community...

Perhaps it is a question of willingness? Kinda like we know who has the jf alts, but who is willing to take the trip to jita...

It isn't just willingness, it's also ability and work ethic. Sugar is a great CSM member because she actually tries. Just electing someone to the CSM who then does nothing doesn't help.

Kinda defeats the point of playing a space ship submarine game if your space is filled with not space.

The whole plex thing introduces those basic aspects anyway by bringing in 'terrain' that breaks the endless expanse of space up, so I don't see much wrong in principle with deepening the terrain-based features to allow for more complex strategies. It's a sci-fi game so there is no need to be bound by the frequently boring parameters of naval warfare.

That said, I haven't been in the exploration sites so don't know if the specific suggestion of using them as a model has any merit.

Also, Sugar Kyle for CSM! Intelligent, willing to listen and non-partisan ... what more could we ask for?

Bacon

Sugar Kyle
Grimwood
Bacon

Will any be putting in their app at the end of the month?

I have only seen grimwood's name put forth here. A short intro is above, but perhaps he and his group can put a bit more forward?

Out of curiosity, has funkybacon been active as of late?

let pirate factions join into faction war...

As long as you're locked out of any station you don't own, and have to deal with the same issues we do as far as having to defensive plex to keep it, I'm ok with that idea.

Somehow I doubt many groups would be willing and able to deal with that.

I heard the The Intaki Syndicate is considering funding Mordus rebels in Southern Placid and Solitude. CONCORD may counter this by issuing Letters of Marque to the Militias to operate in the Syndicate Region. c/d?

Grimwood for CSM.

The whole plex thing introduces those basic aspects anyway by bringing in 'terrain' that breaks the endless expanse of space up, so I don't see much wrong in principle with deepening the terrain-based features to allow for more complex strategies. It's a sci-fi game so there is no need to be bound by the frequently boring parameters of naval warfare.

That said, I haven't been in the exploration sites so don't know if the specific suggestion of using them as a model has any merit.

Also, Sugar Kyle for CSM! Intelligent, willing to listen and non-partisan ... what more could we ask for?

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=397280

Klapen for CSM! He lives with you, he shoots you, let him represent you!

Xgal - willing to accept a nomination?

No, but I'm willing to give one. I think Sugar Kyle is the best CSM candidate fpr FW. Vote her in, and also have your corp/alliance leaders who are interested in giving advice for FW get in contact with her. From there on out you can give her (unsolicited) suggestions and provide feedback when asked.

The job of the CSM is to receive input, organize it, and hand it off to CCP to evaluate. Sugar Kyle does this extremely well because she puts the work into it - and she's better at it than any FW-centric candidate we've elected so far.

Is Moudib still our only FW candidate? I would really appreciate someone knowledgeable about the current plexing and missioning meta. I'm not saying anything negative about Sugar. I only think she is going to be a definite member and would rather allocate my vote towards another possibly great candidate.

Also ::bump:: for refresh.

3rd Oreb, going his usual ass-hattery, is putting pressure on Muadib to state his view on some of these things, if any of you would chime in or inform yourselves as to where you stand in his opinion on those long debated issues.

Thank you, Jurich.

Active FW pilots would be a lot better served, IMO, but taking the time for a long critical look at the state of FW as a whole. How it works internally, how it's impacted by outside forces, how it fits into the larger lowsec environment, and how it impacts other area of the game.

For example, I think we need to take a look at the following:

1. Impact of plexing alts - both on warzone control, cross-faction plexing, and the isk/hr issues.
2. Impact of the current tier system - massive disparity in rewards, impacts on WZ control and other areas of space, the collective action problem
3. FW missions - isk/hr, ease of completion, how those impact other areas

Those things more than anything are what needs to get looked at. The biggest issues IMO stem from how easy it is to make a boatload of isk with minimal investment, which turns FW into an ATM for folks all over New Eden. Balance that out, and things change for the better.

DJ Funkybacon ostracized himself too much with the last CSM and CCP to be effective in my opinion.

For example, I think we need to take a look at the following:

1. Impact of plexing alts - both on warzone control, cross-faction plexing, and the isk/hr issues.
2. Impact of the current tier system - massive disparity in rewards, impacts on WZ control and other areas of space, the collective action problem
3. FW missions - isk/hr, ease of completion, how those impact other areas

Those things more than anything are what needs to get looked at. The biggest issues IMO stem from how easy it is to make a boatload of isk with minimal investment, which turns FW into an ATM for folks all over New Eden. Balance that out, and things change for the better.

Now realistically the only reason I am on board with the movement of "fix FW missions" is because I am told by so many people how broken it is.

All that being said, complains like these are nothing new. How much of an impact does a CSM rep have to push for these changes? Does it matter if the CSM rep is themselves actively involved in FW or is it more important that they have a dialogue with the FW community? I am open to looking at any candidate who appears to be reasonable and willing to talk to me and people like me about things I would like pushed up to CCP attention, which is what has made this thread very handy for me.

If you're wondering what my "simple solution for FW missions" would be, here's a thought:

i don't see why L4 missions would need a nerf now, since the recon changes add the huge risk of a lachesis suddenly showing up on grid.

I always thought it'd be a great idea to let corps tax LP, that way instead of relying on individual people to sacrifice to upgrade systems corporations can take responsibility for the areas they control.

I would love it too so that my corp can purchase a Titan.

I would love it too so that my corp can purchase a Titan.

1, I went against everything I used to say because it is easier

2, I have no backbone

3, We have to team up with WAFFLES cause its too hard

We have our own little lies to help us sleep at night.


C.Q.B being irreverent since 2014

SmokinJs Arthie a failed attempt at trolling, lets use facts not fiction.

Snuffed Out does work with other low security pirate entities FACT, like shadow cartel and waffles.

C.Q.B left Gallente militia because we got offended that no one had any respect for us killing peole on a gate their first trip to lowsec FACT.

I have more unjustified abject arrogance then any other pilot in Gallente militia FACT,

Why I hear you ask because leaving Gallente militia turning my back on FW to join a group that has dominated the area with ease since SoTF left was not the easy route. Its called not getting results fast enough myself and jumping on the bandwagon. the grass is not always greener on the other side. One must take credit for what was already an established local power long before i joined them.

So now ive vented for losing the isk war the other night even though our combined fleet along with waffles was far superior, perhaps you can answer one simple question. Why with all you forum bravado will Gallente militia not fight Snuffed out since hte last few times where snufd had to batphone caldari militia for help lol?

Now im going to end with a sentence that barely makes any sense. I kinda know what i want to say but im in too much of a rush to get back to camping a gate for non combat kills that i dont have time to work it out.



C.Q.B camping since 2014

I lie all the time too .

I fail at everything i do.

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SmokinJs Arthie a failed attempt at trolling, lets use facts not fiction.

Snuffed Out does not work with other low security pirate entities FACT. aprt from say shadow cartel , dead terrorists, waffles and candy balls .... not to forget our old pets balkan express and risky swarm and calmil but u cant count these guys so no we dont fly with other lowsec pirates

I have more of a backbone then any other pilot in Gallente militia because i camp a gate and kill industrials and newbs all day u know things with no guns MAKES ME STRONK

Why I hear you ask because leaving Gallente militia turning my back on FW was not the easy route..... it was the super easy route by joining a corp too big for low sec but not enough balls for null


USING EASY MODE since 2014

s you have become dizzy from flying frigates at such tremendous speed. You have lost all cognitive sense and reasoning.

But when you fly solo in a one man corporation such as you do. I guess you must go insane much the same way as. Being left in solitary confinement. I still fail to see what gives you such an inflated ego ?




C.Q.B camping since 2014

Well this thread went off course.

Yep dem dam snuff box shitposters will do that ... oh wait ............

PERUNGA sounds like that little kid who talks smack to you while hiding behind his big brother (Snuff).

We both know last year's taking of the FW Warzone would not have happened without my input. So calling into question my FW achievements is a ridiculous statement.

And when you say Gallnete bashing, I think you are getting confused with objective fact's. Not to mention I have not lost a fleet fight iv FCed Vs Gallente militia. Since I became how did you put it "a meat shield" just ask GUIYNAN MrChucknorris Roy Henry etc etc.

Fact of the matter is mate C.Q.B just outgrew the rest of Gallente milita. With its risk averse play style and derp fits.

C.Q.B camping since 2014

Crosi Wesdo ... when you fly solo in a one man corporation such as you do. I guess you must go insane much the same way as. Being left in solitary confinement.

Yeah dude my bigger brother will kick you're ass.

I can't believe Sugar Kyle is in the same Alliance as PERUNGA. Talk about poor choices.

TBF she was here first....

You guys have so much in common! Y U mad! Lol miss you runga

Perunga 4CSM

Why I hear you ask because leaving Gallente militia turning my back on FW was not the easy route. Its called a challenge the grass is not always greener on the other side. One must cultivate the right scenario for success.

So now we have the FACT'S out in the open, perhaps you can answer one simple question. Why with all you forum bravado will Gallente militia not fight Snuffed out ?

Is it because you are risk averse fearful of failure from you're own inadequacies. As pilots when faced with a superior opponent. please enlighten me.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=397280

Klapen for CSM! He lives with you, he shoots you, let him represent you!

If you're wondering what my "simple solution for FW missions" would be, here's a thought:

1. Fix LP rewards for all FW activities at Tier 2 level.
2. Delete the Tier system.
3. When able, add in 1-2 MWDing scram/web frigates to each L4 mission.

This puts your income at about 150k LP/hour regardless of Tier, removes the penalty for the losing side who's stuck at Tier 1, and massively reduces the amount of folks willing to mad farm missions. It forces folks to use ships that are more survivable, harder to move around the warzone unmolested, and requires higher skill investment (on par with other L4 mission running setups) to complete.

TBH, i dont think perunga believes his own tripe. Comes across like he is just trying to hide his shame. Though, perhaps he doesnt consciously realise it.

What I think is more shameful is Gallnete militia constant moaning and bleating. And what's worse still Crosi Wesdo is you're own self-righteous image you have. When you contribute nothing to or for the milita.

[quote=Crosi Wesdo] all militia will always be a small fish in a large pond. One or five years from now it will not change.

Its fair to say that if perunga was the only one capable of running the show it wouldve ended there.

How fickle you are Crosi Wesdo, its funny how you forget so quickly. Are you so sure I and C.Q.B was not present in the final few days of taking the war zone ?

Let me refresh you're selective memory https://zkillboard.com/kill/40873620/ funny that look's like C.Q.B dreads in Ladistier or am I mistaken ? Once again Crosi Wesdo you are shown to be nothing more. Then a false prophet spouting nonsense.

And in response to X Gallentius, I can recall Alyssa Severasse, Pipen Hawt, and Eleese doing JF runs to feed the Gallente militia. Yet you do not sing their praise's like you do Crosi Wesdo. Why is this may I ask once again selective memory.




C.Q.B camping since 2014

I find it funny that all the Perunga haters come out on the forum but they all used to fly under him when he was Gallente. While he may be arrogant (like the rest of you), what he says is true. Guys like Crosi are very toxic and prefer to bash people over the keyboard. There's a reason why he is in his own 1-man corp. Corps like JUST have no FCs nor moons but they seem to love making love to their keyboard on a daily basis. If you thought Perunga was such a scrub FC then why did you fly under him? It's simple; he was still better than what most of the current corps can crank out in terms of fleet command.

It's easy to bash and say that joining SNUFF is the easy route and while they do their fairshare of overwhelming scrubs, they do engage in tougher fights that others won't always commit to.

Not to mention that perunga quit 3 days before the end after the 'battle for haydielies' since ****** FW pvp was well below him, you know, because he fought balex with 3:1 number advantage and killed a guardian before they jumped through the gate and peaced out lol. Though if i recall balex tanked his and another fleet for a good 5 minutes before that guard folded lol.

Its fair to say that if perunga was the only one capable of running the show it wouldve ended there.

As for SNUFD, intel has failed them if they end up in a fair fight. Why you think they are NAP with SC and perhaps WAFFLES too?
SNUFD and SC were always frenemies, but at least they used to fight each other lol.

It's funny how many of the snuff rumors I heard in gall mil that turned out to be just 100% false. It is your intel that has failed you

Its not a rumor, its an observation.

As for big P in the last 3 days, you came to gank a carrier and then left again. I can understand you were stressed and burnt out but doesnt mean that you can lie about being the sole driving force behind the push when you didnt FC or enter a plex for the last part of it.

Hey ho, if this passes as smack to you your skin is thinner than i feared.

We both know this statement to be a falsehood. If you wish to continue making yourself look stupid then please continue.

And in response to X Gallentius, I can recall Alyssa Severasse, Pipen Hawt, and Eleese doing JF runs to feed the Gallente militia. Yet you do not sing their praise's like you do Crosi Wesdo. Why is this may I ask once again selective memory.

It's funny how many of the snuff rumors I heard in gall mil that turned out to be just 100% false. It is your intel that has failed you

Perunga is just lashing out. I still think he feels cheap for selling out but i dont think he can articulate the feeling very well so he falls back on his default defense of blaming someone else.

He constantly goes on about he did this and he did that and even though he is deaf to it, everything gives him all the props he deserves for all that.

Problems start when he wants total unconditional respect for things he didnt really do or things that arnt really that impressive or even run of the mill things like camping a gate lol. He sees this as belittling 'perunga' as he refers to himself in the 3rd person. Which would be good fun if he wasnt actually getting upset.

And your last post is a great example big P. Everyone here has said you put a lot of work in to taking the warzone. All im saying is you were not there for the last 2 systems which i know for a fact since i did a lot of the FC'ing. Man, even major trant did a few hours and he wasnt even in gal mil at the time. Just because im pointing out the fact that you really didnt do anything useful in the last few days doesnt mean im revoking hte props for the rest of the campaign.

Its really just a footnote to your egotistical claim that you basically orchestrated the whole push.

Is the one about you guys moving to Enaluri 100% false?

Thanks for the refreshing perspective.

Please tell me this is not an actual rumor being tossed around gall mil.

He constantly goes on about he did this and he did that and even though he is deaf to it, everyone gives him all the props he deserves for all that.

Just to repeat. PERUNGA was a very important contributor towards taking the warzone. +1 for all the mindnumbingly long hours of FC'ing he put into it.

CCP isnt competent enough to give out another medal without dedicating a full 5 week development cycle to just that one job.

Yep, saying we couldnt have done it without him like he implies is silly since, we did already.

Perhaps we wouldnt have done it without him since he was one of the main voices that wanted to take the warzone again.

That didnt work out very well for perunga or any of the other newbros that put a lot of time and effort into making it happen since CCP isnt competent enough to give out another medal without dedicating a full 5 week development cycle to just that one job.

Thanks for being interested in the CSM process.

**** medals it was worth it for that fuzzy feeling when we had "we are the champions" blasting in comms.

Is the one about you guys moving to Enaluri 100% false?

I find it funny that all the Perunga haters come out on the forum but they all used to fly under him when he was Gallente. .

There's a reason why he is in his own 1-man corp.

Corbexx should totally be on this list.. because he is awesome.

Can't do any worse than DJ FunkyBacon, so at least ya'll got that going!!

Tyler Burbon for CSM, he will truly put EVERYONE first

Whos hating as Ive said before hes one of my oldest friends in eve, a sound guys and even my ex CEO and crosi`s too (we even hung around a dead corp (capco) for 6months waiting for him to come bk when he had his hiatus). But sometimes just needs to rein himself in from time to time that's all and not shitpost over a thread that had nothing to do with him or snuff they wasn't even mentioned.....


Im sure this is by choice hes been in most major gal corps of thier times Capco, SP-DR and SOTF and been a pivitol member, ims ure hed be accepted 99% of the current crop. please post with you main and show your credentials..... ahhhh thought not

I had an alt in one of the alliances that flew in Gallente for a bit and a little bit for the Caldari (not as long in Caldari because what everyone says is true). No need for me to post with the main because people would just make it personal attacks by looking up KBs or squeezing out other half truths to fit their trolling style. Besides, posting with a main doesn't really enhance ones credibility. Your constant misspellings and lack of grammar is evidence of that

I flew under Runga and a few other FCs so I'm quite aware of the internal politics, raging, and drama that went on. I was there for the 100% warzone control and I can tell you that Runga was the one FC who did the bulk of the work. Yes, there are other people behind the warzone domination such as logistics but any number of people can do that. It takes some level of talent, confidence, or at least willpower to FC for that long. If it was that easy, others would do it too.

While I don't participate in FW anymore, I still standby what was said earlier in this thread.

I know FW people love to hate on nullseccers and think that they are better than them, but based on what I see on forums and hear on comms (half of Gallente don't even know what battlecomms means), nullsec people don't try to **** up the forums like the FW people do and pretend to be more than they are. Even CAOD doesn't have this many forum warriors who suffer from aspergers.

Anyway, back to choosing your CSM candidate....

i have nothing of substance to say so like all try hards i will result in poking at grammer and saying its evidence of something that doesnt even fit in my sentance.

nullsec people don't try to **** up the forums like the FW people do and pretend to be more than they are. Even CAOD doesn't have this many forum warriors who suffer from aspergers.

While PERUNGA is an enthusiastic and charismatic FC, he isnt actually very informed or talented. Luckily, for day to day fleets, enthusiasm is the most important attribute.

Such a harsh critique considering I have Fleet commanded my fair share of escalation small mid and large scale. And I keep my sword play sharp on a day to day basis. Not to mention the countless time's you yourself have flown under my command. Kinda make's me think who is less talented and informed. Me who lead's or you who follow's.

Not to mention this coming from a man who goes to Sujarento in a Revelation goes into siege on the undock just to prove a point.
In my humble opinion that is what I would call. Not being very talented or informed. If anything I would call it full retardation. And who even fly's Revelation's ? Have you heard of a ship called Moros ?
https://zkillboard.com/kill/28516049/






C.Q.B camping since 2014

Is there any low/FW candidate who is not *** from "PL, DT, snuff etc groups" ?

Voting is open. Remember to vote on all your accounts.