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John Revenent
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2015.01.23 20:03:17 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Desiderya wrote:John Revenent wrote:Yes.. yes we know, you despise your fellow Kirjuun. As for the hostilities between our two organizations it is well placed, the State does not tolerate pirates of any flavor. Right. Since when are you talking for the State? It's worse than that, he appears to think he IS the State. Now that the farce of National Unity is over, it's back to the good old days, where the Okusaiken Deksaam are free and independent entities bound by shared culture and goals but not shackled.
Thank you for proving my point, on that information you displayed you will see you harbor enemies of the State. As for me speaking for the State, hardly.
"Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."
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Gaven Lok'ri
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
321
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Posted - 2015.01.23 20:15:59 -
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Angel T Hunter wrote:Commander Kim... I highly recomend you to take that stone of a heart you have and contenplate on ethics and the word freedom. Either that or take a handfull of "Angels purple chill pill".
PIE gave em people freedom.. Angels know they wanted that.. Yeah, I know they killed them.. But thats only to be expected from an Imperial fleet..
Since you seem to be unclear on this point:
The Sansha harboring organization Pyre shot the hangar array that housed the majority of the slaves that the Amarr coalition fleet set out to rescue.
PIE did not kill those slaves.
Despite this action on Pyres part, Amarrian forces still rescued thousands of slaves from the wreckage.
I hope, for the sake of the Pyre pilots souls, that they did not realize just how big a mistake they were making when they shot that array before attempting to rescue the victims inside.
Lord Admiral of PIE inc. | -áRecruitment Information | Public Forum | Neocom channel: "PIE Public" | Amarr Victor!
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Average Space Elf
Hole Violence Whole Squid
74
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Posted - 2015.01.23 20:23:07 -
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Foley Aberas Jones wrote:Is this thread even about blood wine anymore?
Thank goodness it isn't.
Fortunately, they seem to have moved on to the Spacemans' favorite pursuit: petty bickering. |

Vash Typhoon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.01.23 21:08:10 -
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Diana Kim wrote:I congratulate you with operation to save peoples, and this part I will support. What I was standing against is destruction of the tower. And I definitely won't take Nauplius's side in this conflict. My side here, is that I do oppose this conflict as a whole, which leads to nothing but loss of resources and human lives.
We live in trouble times, there is a war against the Republic and Federation. How can we win, if we will be fighting against each other?..
Thousands of human lives has been already lost by the actions of that sociopath, the sole purpose of that tower was to kill thousands more, I don't understand how you can easily manage to skip that part in name of "avoiding the loss of lives and resources"...
Where is the honor when all you do is looking the other side when innocents are being mass murderer?
Very hipocrite from you... |

Desiderya
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
938
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Posted - 2015.01.23 21:37:52 -
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Neither did we. You should look at the individual putting them into this situation in the first place. I'd have problems with my conscience if there would be ways to access a locked hangar array that does not involve tearing it apart one way or the other. Therefore I am suffering exactly as much as Stormcrows did when they chain-killed this madman's industrials.
Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.
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Angel T Hunter
Stay Frosty.
8
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Posted - 2015.01.23 22:24:13 -
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Gaven Lok'ri wrote:Angel T Hunter wrote:Commander Kim... I highly recomend you to take that stone of a heart you have and contenplate on ethics and the word freedom. Either that or take a handfull of "Angels purple chill pill".
PIE gave em people freedom.. Angels know they wanted that.. Yeah, I know they killed them.. But thats only to be expected from an Imperial fleet.. Since you seem to be unclear on this point: The Sansha harboring organization Pyre shot the hangar array that housed the majority of the slaves that the Amarr coalition fleet set out to rescue. PIE did not kill those slaves. Despite this action on Pyres part, Amarrian forces still rescued thousands of slaves from the wreckage. I hope, for the sake of the Pyre pilots souls, that they did not realize just how big a mistake they were making when they shot that array before attempting to rescue the victims inside.
Sansha!?! Oh my.. Where does the imperial lies end, or start for that matter.. It is documented that the empire was there. Show me the prof of Sansha being there, and I'll eat my left boot. Statement is just as dum as the same origen theory.. |

Evi Polevhia
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
761
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Posted - 2015.01.23 23:11:10 -
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Angel T Hunter wrote: Oh my.. Where does the imperial lies end, or start for that matter.. It is documented that the empire was there. Show me the prof of Sansha being there, and I'll eat my left boot. Statement is just as dum as the same origen theory..
Start seasoning your boots.... |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1574
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Posted - 2015.01.23 23:34:03 -
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Vash Typhoon wrote: Thousands of human lives has been already lost by the actions of that sociopath, the sole purpose of that tower was to kill thousands more, I don't understand how you can easily manage to skip that part in name of "avoiding the loss of lives and resources"...
Where is the honor when all you do is looking the other side when innocents are being mass murderer?
Very hipocrite from you...
Who would say about hypocrisy, but not a gallentean! After all you gallenteans do... after all your lies, war crimes and murders you dare to speak about honor and hypocrisy?!
Moreover, you replace concept of honor with some wicked gallentean concepts at "looking at innocents being mass murdered". And now you are making whiny gallentean sort of tear running drama about such insignificant matter!
Having honor means in the first place devotion to your words, to your loyalty, to your duties and obligations. Honor stands on three pillars: courage, justice and loyalty.
Even by slaughtering innocents and becoming mass murderer you could still be honorable if you don't lie about it and accept your punishment according to the law.
Yet you gallenteans are having wicked and perverted conceptions about honor. And if I don't match your personal perversions, it doesn't make me hypocrite. |

Aldrith Shutaq
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
708
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Posted - 2015.01.23 23:58:59 -
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Desiderya wrote:Neither did we. You should look at the individual putting them into this situation in the first place. I'd have problems with my conscience if there would be ways to access a locked hangar array that does not involve tearing it apart one way or the other. Therefore I am suffering exactly as much as Stormcrows did when they chain-killed this madman's industrials.
If you had bothered to contact the PIE contingent we would have informed you that we had docking clamps and boarding parties ready to storm the hangar. At each of the last towers we used them to good effect, ending up with a sixty to eighty percent recovery rate amongst the slaves with fifteen percent casualty rate to our own forces in the instance where cultist resistance was sizable. Simply put, the destruction of the hangar was an unnecessary act cause by your own stubbornness, impatience and ignorance of how much we were willing to do to secure the lives of the people within.
As a direct result of your actions, fourty thousand of fifty thousand captives were killed outright. Of the ten thousand that survived in the wreckage, about seven thousand five-hundred were rescued before the hindrances your forces provided doomed the remainder to be killed by the Butcher himself.
We are not going to forget that, and nor will you. |

Desiderya
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
939
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Posted - 2015.01.24 00:10:58 -
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[MAXIMUM HANDWAVIUM APPLIED]
Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.
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Kalaratiri
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
456
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Posted - 2015.01.24 00:53:13 -
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*inserted*
She's mad but she's magic, there's no lie in her fire.
This is possibly one of the worst threads in the history of these forums. -á- CCP Falcon
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ValentinaDLM
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
567
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Posted - 2015.01.24 01:30:41 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:Angel T Hunter wrote: Oh my.. Where does the imperial lies end, or start for that matter.. It is documented that the empire was there. Show me the prof of Sansha being there, and I'll eat my left boot. Statement is just as dum as the same origen theory..
Start seasoning your boots.... Rumor has it "Trench" boots taste the best.
Also what is to happen with the right boot? |

Tabor Murn
Kaitaua Whamere
62
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Posted - 2015.01.24 04:49:24 -
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Angel T Hunter wrote: Show me the prof of Sansha being there, and I'll eat my left boot.
Pro-Tip: Boiling is your friend. If you think it's ready, keep boiling. Watch out for eyelets, you don't want to break a tooth.
-This message has been brought to you by Freedom Fighters for an Ironic Tomorrow.- |

Celestia Via
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc The 11th Hour Alliance
8
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Posted - 2015.01.24 12:39:01 -
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Sorry to interrupt all your finger - pointing, lemme just say this:
This monsters projects and towers cannot be left standing, they are an insult against all logic. I am glad to see people mobilizing with haste to turn them into smoldering rubble.
The loss of innocent lives is sad but expected. Don't you see what he's doing? He is trying to sow confusion by mentioning the slaves who where killed during the attack. Starting a blame - game.
Nauplius wrote:Imagine the utter horror it must have been for those slaves at that moment. Knowing they were under attack. Knowing they could do nothing about it. Knowing they were going to die; a cold death under strange stars; a death without purpose; a death without meaning.
25,000 slaves. You killed them. You are slave killers. That is what you are.
As for you, monster. Do not sully those people's memory as if you cared for them, or as if their deaths sparked any emotion in your wretched heart.You rejoiced in their death as you rejoiced in mangling their lives.
But know this: Given the choice, I would gladly kill those people myself, all of them, rather than leave them to your "care". |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1580
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Posted - 2015.01.24 12:59:26 -
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Sweet Maker...
Ms. Via, did you just interrupt finger-pointing to finger point on Mr. Nauplius?...
As for killing Mr. Nauplius slaves, it isn't their fault that Mr. Nauplius is Mr. Nauplius. It brings no honor in killing ones for crimes of others. It is... unjust and disgusting.
Of course, unless his slaves will defend him with weapons in their hands, then go ahead. Kill them. |

Deitra Vess
Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies.
262
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Posted - 2015.01.24 14:05:13 -
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Diana Kim wrote:
As for killing Mr. Nauplius slaves, it isn't their fault that Mr. Nauplius is Mr. Nauplius. It brings no honor in killing ones for crimes of others. It is... unjust and disgusting.
Like when you decided to kill, what 50+ gallante POWs in response to some serial killer? Excuse me but who are you to talk on that point? |

Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
305
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Posted - 2015.01.24 15:56:02 -
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From the fiery depths of Hell, the 25,000 euthanized slaves cry out for vengeance. And at the end of days GÇö the day of days, the day of wrath GÇö they shall have it. For on that terrible day, God shall condemn all the men and women of PIE, SFRIM, PY-RE, and I-RED to the lowest of Hells GÇö the very Pit GÇö where they shall spend all eternity in the lake of fire under the lash of their master, Molok the Deceiver.
And from the blood stained golden towers of Paradise, I shall look down upon them and cackle with glee. Amen. Amarr Victor. |

U'tah Arareb
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2015.01.24 16:23:45 -
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This entire project was nothing more than a devils snare... Our Slaves are not to be abused, they are children. There was no release for then in this vile Sinners technological hell but the release of death.
Now he mocks, calling those that freed them from torment in the only way possible murderers...
But what does one expect from one of this defilers stock? He hates his own existence, can you not see?
Like them for Him and other heretics like him there is no release from his torment either, but death. |

Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
299
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Posted - 2015.01.24 17:24:55 -
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Nauplius wrote:From the fiery depths of Hell, the 25,000 euthanized slaves cry out for vengeance. And at the end of days GÇö the day of days, the day of wrath GÇö they shall have it. For on that terrible day, God shall condemn all the men and women of PIE, SFRIM, PY-RE, and I-RED to the lowest of Hells GÇö the very Pit GÇö where they shall spend all eternity in the lake of fire under the lash of their master, Molok the Deceiver.
And from the blood stained golden towers of Paradise, I shall look down upon them and cackle with glee. Amen. Amarr Victor.
Those 25,000 slaves cry out for your blood. It is unfortunate that you are so tone-deaf you can't even tell the difference.
- Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1582
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Posted - 2015.01.24 21:22:51 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:Diana Kim wrote:
As for killing Mr. Nauplius slaves, it isn't their fault that Mr. Nauplius is Mr. Nauplius. It brings no honor in killing ones for crimes of others. It is... unjust and disgusting.
Like when you decided to kill, what 50+ gallante POWs in response to some serial killer? Excuse me but who are you to talk on that point? I didn't just "decided" to kill them, so could you stop LYING, minmatar? They were charged with crimes against the State, was given chance to defend themselves and were found guilty by tribunal and sentenced to death. All regulations and justice procedures were followed. |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1582
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Posted - 2015.01.24 21:30:47 -
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Nauplius wrote:From the fiery depths of Hell, the 25,000 euthanized slaves cry out for vengeance. And at the end of days GÇö the day of days, the day of wrath GÇö they shall have it. For on that terrible day, God shall condemn all the men and women of PIE, SFRIM, PY-RE, and I-RED to the lowest of Hells GÇö the very Pit GÇö where they shall spend all eternity in the lake of fire under the lash of their master, Molok the Deceiver.
And from the blood stained golden towers of Paradise, I shall look down upon them and cackle with glee. Amen. Amarr Victor. Yea, yea, they killed your slaves, we got it (at least those of us, who still have some gray matter inside heads). But why in the Hek you are bringing it? If they wouldn't kill them, YOU would. Wasn't this tower for turning them into wine? Wasn't you going to kill them yourself? How many slaves would cry out for vengeance for you killing them, or you would claim you never sacrificed one, eh?
You wanted to destroy minmatars? They did it instead of you. Enjoy. Now please shut up. |

Deitra Vess
Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies.
262
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Posted - 2015.01.24 22:59:17 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Diana Kim wrote:
As for killing Mr. Nauplius slaves, it isn't their fault that Mr. Nauplius is Mr. Nauplius. It brings no honor in killing ones for crimes of others. It is... unjust and disgusting.
Like when you decided to kill, what 50+ gallante POWs in response to some serial killer? Excuse me but who are you to talk on that point? I didn't just "decided" to kill them, so could you stop LYING, minmatar? They were charged with crimes against the State, was given chance to defend themselves and were found guilty by tribunal and sentenced to death. All regulations and justice procedures were followed.
I'm a liar for bringing up the fact you publically executed POWs, in response to a serial killer? Ok then......... Guess I'm a liar. I'd actually explain my point (which mind you had nothing to do with the POWs them self), but I don't see any actual reason to do so. It is pretty obvious, after all.
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Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
306
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Posted - 2015.01.24 23:03:15 -
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Diana Kim wrote: Yea, yea, they killed your slaves, we got it (at least those of us, who still have some gray matter inside heads). But why in the Hek you are bringing it? If they wouldn't kill them, YOU would. Wasn't this tower for turning them into wine? Wasn't you going to kill them yourself? How many slaves would cry out for vengeance for you killing them, or you would claim you never sacrificed one, eh?
You wanted to destroy minmatars? They did it instead of you. Enjoy. Now please shut up.
It is true that I do not believe in conventional morality and that I would have made every slave in that tower into wine eventually. The point of my taunting is to mock those who destroyed my tower for their hypocrisy, given that they do supposedly believe in conventional morality. Well, some of them anyway.
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Vash Typhoon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.01.25 02:56:15 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Who would say about hypocrisy, but not a gallentean! After all you gallenteans do... after all your lies, war crimes and murders you dare to speak about honor and hypocrisy?!
Moreover, you replace concept of honor with some wicked gallentean concepts at "looking at innocents being mass murdered". And now you are making whiny gallentean sort of tear running drama about such insignificant matter!
Having honor means in the first place devotion to your words, to your loyalty, to your duties and obligations. Honor stands on three pillars: courage, justice and loyalty.
Even by slaughtering innocents and becoming mass murderer you could still be honorable if you don't lie about it and accept your punishment according to the law.
Yet you gallenteans are having wicked and perverted conceptions about honor. And if I don't match your personal perversions, it doesn't make me hypocrite.
Yes you are, labeling people as "gallenteans", "minmatars", "weaks" or whatever you need to make things simple enough for your simple brain to handle. The Federation, the Ammar Empire, Minmatar Republic and your beloved State, do you really think they are diferent one from another?... They just use pawns like you to do their bids...
In the end you lack the courage to make true justice, the one beyond politics and uniforms, in those moments when something is wrong and must be stoped you did nothing... Keep yourself in your "great and honorable fights" pity little thing, do not criticize those who did what you were not brave enough to do. |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1582
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Posted - 2015.01.25 11:04:41 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Diana Kim wrote:
As for killing Mr. Nauplius slaves, it isn't their fault that Mr. Nauplius is Mr. Nauplius. It brings no honor in killing ones for crimes of others. It is... unjust and disgusting.
Like when you decided to kill, what 50+ gallante POWs in response to some serial killer? Excuse me but who are you to talk on that point? I didn't just "decided" to kill them, so could you stop LYING, minmatar? They were charged with crimes against the State, was given chance to defend themselves and were found guilty by tribunal and sentenced to death. All regulations and justice procedures were followed. I'm a liar for bringing up the fact you publically executed POWs, in response to a serial killer? Ok then......... Guess I'm a liar. I'd actually explain my point (which mind you had nothing to do with the POWs them self), but I don't see any actual reason to do so. It is pretty obvious, after all.  You are a liar because you are twisting the facts and interpret them in your twisted mind to distort the reality. I have simply shown my job and the fate that awaits this serial killer. So called "POWs" were criminals and were convicted to execution according to law and by following all regulations. I have chose to show it publicly, so this serial killer would see what will wait him and all criminals like him. Convicts to be executed on camera were chosen specifically to match serial killer's appearance.
Now why the hell YOU are bringing it here? |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1582
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Posted - 2015.01.25 11:06:09 -
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Nauplius wrote:Diana Kim wrote: Yea, yea, they killed your slaves, we got it (at least those of us, who still have some gray matter inside heads). But why in the Hek you are bringing it? If they wouldn't kill them, YOU would. Wasn't this tower for turning them into wine? Wasn't you going to kill them yourself? How many slaves would cry out for vengeance for you killing them, or you would claim you never sacrificed one, eh?
You wanted to destroy minmatars? They did it instead of you. Enjoy. Now please shut up.
It is true that I do not believe in conventional morality and that I would have made every slave in that tower into wine eventually. The point of my taunting is to mock those who destroyed my tower for their hypocrisy, given that they do supposedly believe in conventional morality. Well, some of them anyway. Now, what does "conventional" morality mean?.. |

Gwen Ikiryo
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
473
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Posted - 2015.01.25 11:15:38 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Nauplius wrote:Diana Kim wrote: Yea, yea, they killed your slaves, we got it (at least those of us, who still have some gray matter inside heads). But why in the Hek you are bringing it? If they wouldn't kill them, YOU would. Wasn't this tower for turning them into wine? Wasn't you going to kill them yourself? How many slaves would cry out for vengeance for you killing them, or you would claim you never sacrificed one, eh?
You wanted to destroy minmatars? They did it instead of you. Enjoy. Now please shut up.
It is true that I do not believe in conventional morality and that I would have made every slave in that tower into wine eventually. The point of my taunting is to mock those who destroyed my tower for their hypocrisy, given that they do supposedly believe in conventional morality. Well, some of them anyway. Now, what does "conventional" morality mean?..
One would assume ideas like, "Killing innocent civilians for no reason is wrong". |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1582
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Posted - 2015.01.25 11:16:35 -
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Vash Typhoon wrote: In the end you lack the courage to make true justice, the one beyond politics and uniforms, in those moments when something is wrong and must be stoped you did nothing... Keep yourself in your "great and honorable fights" pity little thing, do not criticize those who did what you were not brave enough to do.
You want TRUE JUSTICE?!
You will see TRUE JUSTICE, when your homeworld will burn from orbital bombing, you will see TRUE JUSTICE when your worlds will be occupied for 200 years, you will see TRUE JUSTICE, when occupants on your homeworld will scream "exterminate all Jin-Mei", you will see TRUE JUSTICE when your capital fleet will be lured to your world low orbit and smashed down to rain on you molten carbides and capital superstructure parts, you will see TRUE JUSTICE, when your stations will be rammed by those, who will claim to make peace with you, you will see TRUE JUSTICE when your POWs will be tortured like in Federal prisons.
You think I LACK courage to bring you TRUE JUSTICE?!
Come here, to warzone, and see for yourself, federal lapdog, I will stuff you with superheated justice. |

Vash Typhoon
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.01.25 12:50:49 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Vash Typhoon wrote: In the end you lack the courage to make true justice, the one beyond politics and uniforms, in those moments when something is wrong and must be stoped you did nothing... Keep yourself in your "great and honorable fights" pity little thing, do not criticize those who did what you were not brave enough to do.
You want TRUE JUSTICE?! You will see TRUE JUSTICE, when your homeworld will burn from orbital bombing, you will see TRUE JUSTICE when your worlds will be occupied for 200 years, you will see TRUE JUSTICE, when occupants on your homeworld will scream "exterminate all Jin-Mei", you will see TRUE JUSTICE when your capital fleet will be lured to your world low orbit and smashed down to rain on you molten carbides and capital superstructure parts, you will see TRUE JUSTICE, when your stations will be rammed by those, who will claim to make peace with you, you will see TRUE JUSTICE when your POWs will be tortured like in Federal prisons. You think I LACK courage to bring you TRUE JUSTICE?! Come here, to warzone, and see for yourself, federal lapdog, I will stuff you with superheated justice.
See little pawn?
Your own words show my point... You are not any better than the mad man, just a cheap version. |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1583
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Posted - 2015.01.25 14:15:52 -
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So, true justice for gallenteans and their pet lapdogs from "gallenteanized" races is "madness"?
Pretty much explains why most of you are war criminals, genocidists, why you mistreat prisoners and violate treaties. Your concept of freedom basically tells you that you can do whatever you want.
This won't work in the State and with Caldari citizens. We uphold the law. We bring the law. And we will force you to obey the law. |
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