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Shrike Crendraven
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.21 11:36:53 -
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Hi, i need some help with fitting stratios.
null-sec data/relics only, no combat whatsoever and PVPoriented for getting away asap
since im armor-tanked, my lows are:
- 1600mm plate
- nano plating
- damage control
- armor rep (needed? can put down mobiledeplot to refit and repair if needed)
- (my last one was always drone dmg... but maybe more def would be better?)
highs:
- covert cloak
- 4 x ??? (im not shooting. whatever attacks me can probably shoot better than me.)
mids:
- data
- relic
- ??
- ??
- ??
rigs:
- trimark armo
- anti explosive
- ???
drones:
4x lights
4x mediums
4x gardes
what kind of electronic warfare drones would benefit me? can i make someone drop target on me so the warp scrambler turns off and i can escape?
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Spugg Galdon
APOCALYPSE LEGION
The Obsidian Front
601
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Posted - 2015.01.21 12:20:04 -
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[Stratios, Scanning & Travelling]
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler II
Data Analyzer II
Relic Analyzer II
Cargo Scanner II
Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Core Scanner Probe I
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Quad Light Beam Laser II, Gleam M
Quad Light Beam Laser II, Gleam M
Quad Light Beam Laser II, Gleam M
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
Medium Emission Scope Sharpener I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Bouncer II x4
Hobgoblin II x5
Vespa EC-600 x5
This allows you to chase off anyone already in the site or kill ambushers.
It also lets you do any relic site easily (data sites might be a little tougher due to only being able to fit a rig for relic or data sites and not both). I've chosen to boost the relic analyzer strength over the data as Relic sites are just far better. |
Tsukino Stareine
Sock Robbers Inc.
885
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Posted - 2015.01.21 13:15:03 -
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Why do you want to use a stratios if you're not going to engage in ANY combat? |
Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
1106
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Posted - 2015.01.21 14:52:01 -
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neuts in the highs to kill the cap of anyone in scram range.
replace the scram in the fit above with a sensor damp with a targetting range script to help with people keeping at range.
stick a couple of warp core stabs in the lows and you should be fine bar bubbles and organised gate camps.
this is an awful use for this most excellant ship though.
use a cov ops frig or even an astero for this work.
use a stratios for exploration only if you intend to use it to kill off your competition and/or run sites. In those cases warp core stabs would be bad. (they are bad for all ratting/ pvp fits).
Money at its root is a form of rationing.
When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85
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Spugg Galdon
APOCALYPSE LEGION
The Obsidian Front
601
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Posted - 2015.01.21 15:12:48 -
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He needs the buffer tank the Stratios offers to do the covert data sites (I imagine) |
Tsukino Stareine
Sock Robbers Inc.
888
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Posted - 2015.01.21 15:24:56 -
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null data/relics have absolutely 0 combat/damage associated with them.
And if you get blown up in a ghost/cache site: you did it wrong in the first place. |
Shrike Crendraven
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.01.21 15:31:16 -
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thanks for a nice fit!
i picked stratios because it was much faster to train than any other covops. low sp here.
anyway, im happily cruising thru empty space, blowing up 50% of the containers due to low skills, and having a heartattack each time i see a person in local.
i really do hope ill find a WH leading back to low/high sec coz the sheer luck of evading gatecamps will run dry soon.... |
atomic killer
State War Academy
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.01.21 15:46:51 -
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if you are running non combat exploration, then get a covops or astero. You dont need 500 mils ship for this. |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
2237
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Posted - 2015.01.21 20:12:52 -
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The whole 1600 thing is just bugging me. Slapping that on certainly gives you buffer but at the cost of align time. While 5.3 seconds isn't bad per se it's pretty bad for a Stratios. Your riskiest moments are on gates; that's where you need the align. Slapping enough buffer on top to survive a smartbomb or two is trivial and from there you can actively tank sleeper caches and ghost sites long enough to get out if you need to.
So yeah. I'd scrap the concept, fit for align with just enough active tank/buffer, and go from there. But then I probably wouldn't use a Stratios for what you describe in the first place when a Loki does it all better (but I know that's a very long train). |
Aralieus
The Inf1dels
241
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Posted - 2015.01.21 22:00:08 -
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This fit is for traveling thru systems and scanning out sites only:
[Stratios, Travel]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Scan Pinpointing Array I
Scan Pinpointing Array I
Scan Rangefinding Array I
Scan Rangefinding Array I
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Emission Scope Sharpener I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Use this and when you find a suitable site just switch out your fit with a Mobile Depot in a safe or even in the site. I would also suggest carrying a PVE combat fit in your cargo hold because there are some sites that are just to good to pass up and pay very well. As far as drones go ECM drones have a chance to jam your enemy and cause them to drop lock on you and therefore point leaving you free to warp off. They don't always work however so be prepared in other ways if you can like nuets for instance.
If you don't plan on doing combat sites or PVP then you can get by with something far less cheaper like the Astero. The best way to avoid combat if that is indeed your goal is to do some research and check your in-game map for ships killed in the last hour and other things that will keep you safe. At any rate the Strat is overkill for what you're trying to do and will be an expensive killmail at some point.
HTH
Aral
Oderint Dum Metuant
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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
2237
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Posted - 2015.01.21 23:37:10 -
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Aralieus wrote:This fit is for traveling thru systems and scanning out sites only:
[Stratios, Travel]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Scan Pinpointing Array I
Scan Pinpointing Array I
Scan Rangefinding Array I
Scan Rangefinding Array I
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Emission Scope Sharpener I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Use this and when you find a suitable site just switch out your fit with a Mobile Depot in a safe or even in the site. I would also suggest carrying a PVE combat fit in your cargo hold because there are some sites that are just to good to pass up and pay very well. As far as drones go ECM drones have a chance to jam your enemy and cause them to drop lock on you and therefore point leaving you free to warp off. They don't always work however so be prepared in other ways if you can like nuets for instance.
If you don't plan on doing combat sites or PVP then you can get by with something far less cheaper like the Astero. The best way to avoid combat if that is indeed your goal is to do some research and check your in-game map for ships killed in the last hour and other things that will keep you safe. At any rate the Strat is overkill for what you're trying to do and will be an expensive killmail at some point.
HTH
Aral
That looks considerably better. No plate, good resists, focus on scanning. Stratios has more than enough cargo to hot swap analyzers.
To be honest, I wouldn't fit that many scanning modules, but at low skills it isn't a terrible idea. |
Paranoid Loyd
3587
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Posted - 2015.01.21 23:43:39 -
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With perfect agility skills, it looks like fitting 2 nanos and an I-stab will save you a tick (drops from 4.2 to 4 flat) at the expense of a bit of sig radius.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Tsukino Stareine
Sock Robbers Inc.
895
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Posted - 2015.01.22 01:00:57 -
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isnt 900 with mwd on?
if so then the sig radius penalty will be a lot lower. |
Paranoid Loyd
3589
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Posted - 2015.01.22 01:10:24 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:isnt 900 with mwd on?
if so then the sig radius penalty will be a lot lower.
Derp, not used to using osmium, it doesn't change the align time with an i-stab.
My mistake.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Shrike Crendraven
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.01.22 11:32:17 -
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The only reason for picking stratios is that dedicated covops ships are 1month of training for new pilots
about astero i didnt think even.. forgot. small ships easy to overlook ;-)
fyi, my stratios is already dead, i double clicked cloak by mistake on a gatecamp. glorious death in 3v1 battle ensued. almost killed one guy. ;-) he was smoking heavily. Whole fight i could not target anyone, and ecm drones went for the two ships that was shooting me instead of the one that was tackiling/disabling me. i could not fix the drones' target as i couldnt target myself. a bit annoying.
https://beta.eve-kill.net/kill/44041248/
whoa, reading this gave me some laugh and surprises... for like 2 hrs i completely ignored the zordo guy (following me each jump), a scout. i blew up a fuckton of containers, flew randomly back and forth. several times i missed the other battleworrior guy by 10km while cloaked (was flying randomly sightseeing what are those funny blue bubbles.), once even was looking what the hell are they doing while i was orbiting them at 50kms range... it seems they were looking for me :DDDD
They got the kill with a tactic of "lets disguise as the worst gankers ever and hope he decloaks out of pity". Which was kinda what happened exactly.
i like the second fit much better - my next ship wil be focused on movement speed, align speed and maybe some warp core stabilizers.
given low sp and game progression mechanic, i think i need something other to play while the accounts runs next 60 days training skills. (its very annoying, i dont want to buy a pilot, but id gladly pay for faster training....)
the question is - should i try to train covops frigs and prepare to loose them, or just go for t3 cruiser that given proper fit can ignore warp bubbles? |
Shrike Crendraven
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.01.22 11:38:46 -
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really liek this one, i did not think about fitting for scanning bonuses and refiting for hacking sites! TY
Aralieus wrote:This fit is for traveling thru systems and scanning out sites only:
[Stratios, Travel]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Scan Pinpointing Array I
Scan Pinpointing Array I
Scan Rangefinding Array I
Scan Rangefinding Array I
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Emission Scope Sharpener I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Use this and when you find a suitable site just switch out your fit with a Mobile Depot in a safe or even in the site. I would also suggest carrying a PVE combat fit in your cargo hold because there are some sites that are just to good to pass up and pay very well. As far as drones go ECM drones have a chance to jam your enemy and cause them to drop lock on you and therefore point leaving you free to warp off. They don't always work however so be prepared in other ways if you can like nuets for instance.
If you don't plan on doing combat sites or PVP then you can get by with something far less cheaper like the Astero. The best way to avoid combat if that is indeed your goal is to do some research and check your in-game map for ships killed in the last hour and other things that will keep you safe. At any rate the Strat is overkill for what you're trying to do and will be an expensive killmail at some point.
HTH
Aral
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atomic killer
State War Academy
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2015.01.23 11:20:45 -
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Aralieus wrote:This fit is for traveling thru systems and scanning out sites only:
[Stratios, Travel]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Scan Pinpointing Array I
Scan Pinpointing Array I
Scan Rangefinding Array I
Scan Rangefinding Array I
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Emission Scope Sharpener I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Use this and when you find a suitable site just switch out your fit with a Mobile Depot in a safe or even in the site. I would also suggest carrying a PVE combat fit in your cargo hold because there are some sites that are just to good to pass up and pay very well. As far as drones go ECM drones have a chance to jam your enemy and cause them to drop lock on you and therefore point leaving you free to warp off. They don't always work however so be prepared in other ways if you can like nuets for instance.
If you don't plan on doing combat sites or PVP then you can get by with something far less cheaper like the Astero. The best way to avoid combat if that is indeed your goal is to do some research and check your in-game map for ships killed in the last hour and other things that will keep you safe. At any rate the Strat is overkill for what you're trying to do and will be an expensive killmail at some point.
HTH
Aral
Exellent fit, when someone in a ceptor warps on top of you with a warp disruptor with 30k range, then neutralisers are gonna be useless, all you have to do is wait for your death from his mates ! |
Aralieus
The Inf1dels
244
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Posted - 2015.01.23 14:38:08 -
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With the size of dronebay that the Stratios has I'm sure throwing some warrior II's in there wouldnt be too much of a problem. Besides in some situations in doesn't matter what ship you're in if the wrong ship lands on you you're dead anyway.
Oderint Dum Metuant
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Shiloh Templeton
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
226
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Posted - 2015.01.23 16:30:20 -
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OP, for what you're talking about the Astero would be a much better fit. Beat the gate camps with agility & speed. Aim for a 2-3 second warp out time. Make perches in systems you frequent.
Cov-ops would be slipperier, but the reduced cargohold would hurt.
You should fit a cargo scanner. Even if you're going to scan every can, it's worth it to do the high value ones first in case someone comes into system and you have to cloak up.
If you want to start doing ghost or sleeper sites then statios makes sense -- but travel with the 1600 plate in your cargo hold and fit it using a mobile depot when you need it.
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