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Lord Turk
Gallente Legion Of The Lost Guardians
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Posted - 2006.09.26 16:34:00 -
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The recent war between U'K and the pirates has been going on for awhile now. What some people do not know is that the pirates are also affecting the civilians who do not wish to be anywhere near this war. While recent events such the station camp a couple of jumps from the war zone has the cost of billion of isk to small corps, who wish to remain neutral. Please keep the war in a paticular area, and do not engage outside that area.
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Jobie Thickburger
Gallente Intergalactic Mining
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Posted - 2006.09.26 16:42:00 -
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Welcome to the joys of living in lawless space
You need to learn to be prepared for any situation that may arrise. Otherwise, you won't be able to survive if the need comes to it.
Unless your POS's were attacked, I don't see where you could be complaining about. Space is big, and there are plenty of places for you to live. You CHOOSE to live in UNITY's space, and as such, you must pay the concequences. Its an entirly different world out here, without the well founded militarys seen in the Empire or Federation. here its up to the locals to defend themselves.
Adapt and Overcome my friend, its the only way you can survive out here. Not two weeks after setting up shop near CVA space, Using CVA's entery into 0.0, the Mercs VS. CVA war began, and effectivally shut down all traffic moving through R3-K7K. It was a mess, espically as my corp only had a limited amount of fuel on hand at the time.
Luckally, I found 3 other routes that could get me to where I needed to go. Fuel got there, and no problems other than an entire month of me not being able to earn any personal money, (Ahhh the joys of the CEO) were to come up.
In short, Be you part of UNITY or not, If you live in their space, you must be their friend, and the friend of my enemy is my enemy, even in normal wars. You must also remember that the agressors here were Pirtes in the first place, these guys would have shot your ships down nomatter where they came across you, be it in UK space, CVA space, NOS space, or BoB space!
His Planetship, CEO, IM
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Mark Ridus
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Posted - 2006.09.26 16:47:00 -
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I guess that is a fare warning. It just upsets me when we are at a NPC station trying to make the isk to have fun in 0.0 space when we're in .3. Guess the pirates are just making more enemies.. which they probably like Guess I don't see the fairness in T2 vs my small T1 I'll learn... and from that become better.
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Hakera
Anari Higard
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Posted - 2006.09.26 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Turk While recent events such the station camp a couple of jumps from the war zone has the cost of billion of isk to small corps, who wish to remain neutral. Please keep the war in a paticular area, and do not engage outside that area.
So, you milk them for their station and their defence forces when you cry wolf, but then they get seiged you are no where to be seen and worse want them to keep the bloody war confined so it does not disturb the peace of your mining lasers! Arrogant parasites the lot of you.
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Lord Turk
Gallente Legion Of The Lost Guardians
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Posted - 2006.09.26 16:56:00 -
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We have no connections toward U'K.... I didn't want anyone to get offended by this, only for the two year vets to pick on their own side. I know space is not a friendly place, but it does ruin the game kind of when I only go to train and leave afterwards. Once again I didn't want anyone to get offended.
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Darius Shakor
Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.09.26 17:14:00 -
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As far as the Ushra'Khan is concerned, regardless of where we choose to make war or who we choose to defend ourselves from, anyone is safe from our guns as long as they are not actively working with our enemies or caught keeping slaves.
I see no records of any standings on our side either so if you have been targeted by one of our members and shot at, please initiate contact with us and provide details. Otherwise you were shot by pirates and cut throat murderers and your complaint towards them will fall on deaf ears. They would gladly shoot you again where ever you are in New Eden and thus is not an issue of our recent war. ------
Shakor Clan Information Portal http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=3 |
Eddie Gordo
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.09.26 18:08:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Turk We have no connections toward U'K.... I didn't want anyone to get offended by this, only for the two year vets to pick on their own side. I know space is not a friendly place, but it does ruin the game kind of when I only go to train and leave afterwards. Once again I didn't want anyone to get offended.
Thing is, the people invading our space are pirates and will attack anyone who isnt set blue to them (not many people) so what your doing is asking pirates to stop being pirates so you can get around unmolested?
A better way to approach would be to become friendly with other locals and get into the shared intel channels so you can be warned of enemy movements.
Theres no way in hell we will restrict our travel to a certain zone, we have logistical needs!
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Lord Turk
Gallente Legion Of The Lost Guardians
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Posted - 2006.09.26 18:29:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Turk on 26/09/2006 18:31:08 I wasn't attacked by any U'K. I know you were invaded and I hope you win and beat the pirates, because even though I've been playing only a few months I've been attacked by them. I was sitting in class thinking of why I decided to say this, and came up with what I think is the right one. When corps/alliances declare war on each other, don't think about only what you have. Think about the surrounding areas and reach out to them (if you can). Even if you get a Evemail from someone you know isn't a pirate being jumped by your enemy.... help them even if it's 6 jumps away. Small people like me look up to the large alliances and want to be part of something like that in the near future. I don't want to be ganged rapped by T2 pirates who can scramble my T1 WCS (if its possible). I'm going to run as far as I can, and if I get stuck in a system with a lot of them.. pretty sure I'm going to be making random calls for help. I'm located near the U'K war zone and I see UNITY guys sometimes. Some I remember and some I don't. I didn't mean to make this a complaint about pirates, pircay is a way of life, even in the RL. I hope you don't take it as something more then a civilian pretty much caught in the line of fire a few jumps away from U'K territory.
Edit: "Theres no way in hell we will restrict our travel to a certain zone, we have logistical needs!".... I'm not saying for you guys to remain in your space... I'm asking the pirates to leave the small people alone till we can be more of a challenge.
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Saundra Fayid
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Posted - 2006.09.26 18:56:00 -
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In times of war when opposing sides may very well use misinformation to gain the advantage systems tend to be shut down completely. Its easier to deny space than it is to keep track of who is in what alt corp running goods for which side...
It is unfortunate for the "uninvolved" populace but it is easier for me to kill you than risk my plans to the possability that you are not who you say you are.
The best that anyone can suggest is that you (or your CEO) contact the CEO of the corporation that killed you. If your lucky they will reply and allow political discussions which may in fact protect your corporation to some degree.
While you may think no pirate will have this the truth is many corporations (pirate or not) charge for access to thier space, blue standings etc etc...
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Darius Shakor
Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.09.26 20:17:00 -
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Mr Turk, we understand the point you are trying to make. First of all, as of Monday, the pirates made a statement that they have withdrawn their invasion of our Outpost system so the most intense part is over. However we expect them to be around for some time still doing what they have always done. Harrassing civilian and allied transports. And as always we will act against them where threatened.
However, asking a pirate to leave the less-equiped pilots alone is a little naive. Pirates only attack if they think they are going to win. Not to sound cold or anything, but to them it is a business at the heart of it all. They will always shoot the little guy. The only reason they banded together to siege our outpost is because they through they could take it easily and thought of us as a weak target. Not because they wanted a challange.
So I am afraid wherever you go where the law is that of the jungle, you will find people that want only to take for themselves. ------
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Coran Ordus
Ominous Corp Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.26 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: Eddie Gordo Thing is, the people invading our space are pirates and will attack anyone who isnt set blue to them (not many people) so what your doing is asking pirates to stop being pirates so you can get around unmolested?
The majority of 0.0 alliances work under a not-blue-shoot-it policy. Which doesn't necessarily make them pirates.
i.e., if you're bopping about in 0.0, a few entities might leave you alone (ISS, UK by their own claims), but most will kill you as a matter of course. It's not personal, it's not piracy, it's merely an effort to exert some control over a region. And/or see things blow up.
If you run into a certain group often, talk to them, see if you can get mutual standings set. Much more likely to keep you safe than asking on the forums not to get blown up.
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Ange1
Gallente The Establishment Establishment
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Posted - 2006.09.26 21:54:00 -
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The Establishment is disinclined to acquiesce to your request
The Establishment is at your service...
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Jobie Thickburger
Gallente Intergalactic Mining
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Posted - 2006.09.26 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: Ange1 The Establishment is disinclined to acquiesce to your request
I can't believe I'm going to say this but.... I agree with you Agnel...
Pirates, nomatter how they display themsevles, make their living preying on the weak. Don't get me wrong, They go after bigger, challenging targets too, but attacking the weaker, undefended players is how they work.
If you were in their position, would you only attack those who you were agressing, Or everyone in the area that is also neutral, being that you don't know what side they are on. For all EST and the rest of them know, your a Spy for UNITY, A runner brining UNITY supplies, Or simply out to get them.
In war, You only have friends and targets.
His Planetship, CEO, IM
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Verone
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Posted - 2006.09.26 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: Ange1 The Establishment is disinclined to acquiesce to your request
Veto Concurs.
BACKSTORY AND FAN FICTION
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Lord Turk
Gallente Legion Of The Lost Guardians
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Posted - 2006.09.27 16:56:00 -
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Lots of points were made, and from them I shall take them in and learn off that. I would like to thank everyone in pointing things out I've never seen before. Even though pirates roam the universt there are nice people that will show the light to younger/beginner pilots like me. I'm also glad to hear U'K has pushed back the pirates... and I'll be on my toes for now. Watching, listening, learning. Thank you all once again. See you in space.
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Sykosys
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.09.27 21:45:00 -
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To the OP
First of all please change your topic, as UK has nothing to do with pirates shooting you. If there was no war and the pirates were there they would have still shot you.
This is how a pirate works. I don't have a clue what you are trying to do posting on here asking not to engage outside a particular area.
If you are serious you will know pirates will pirate, if your new then welcome to eve, This is just how it is.
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Cythrawl
Caldari Central Defiance Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.28 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Turk The recent war between U'K and the pirates has been going on for awhile now. What some people do not know is that the pirates are also affecting the civilians who do not wish to be anywhere near this war. While recent events such the station camp a couple of jumps from the war zone has the cost of billion of isk to small corps, who wish to remain neutral. Please keep the war in a paticular area, and do not engage outside that area.
Personal Opinion here:
If you have no idea how lawless space, or even low security space, operates and you complain about loosing ships in that area, you have no business being there. Little risk = little rewards. If you knowingly get involved in space in/around a war zone, you're just asking to get yourself in trouble with atleast one side if not both. Oh, and billions of isk are lost by all parties. I'm out a small fleet of T2 ships myself.
Nothing personal but if you can't stand to loose the money, don't be there.
=+=+=+=+=+=+= The truth about Roflcopters
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Black Cain
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Posted - 2006.09.28 08:17:00 -
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iam sorry but i need to laugh at the original post :p
\GL everyone
P.S didnt even read the rest of the posts
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.09.28 09:34:00 -
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If you support the terrorists, expect to be treated as a terrorist.
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Darius Shakor
Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.09.28 10:05:00 -
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Originally by: Coran Ordus
Originally by: Eddie Gordo Thing is, the people invading our space are pirates and will attack anyone who isnt set blue to them (not many people) so what your doing is asking pirates to stop being pirates so you can get around unmolested?
The majority of 0.0 alliances work under a not-blue-shoot-it policy. Which doesn't necessarily make them pirates.
i.e., if you're bopping about in 0.0, a few entities might leave you alone (ISS, UK by their own claims), but most will kill you as a matter of course. It's not personal, it's not piracy, it's merely an effort to exert some control over a region. And/or see things blow up.
If you run into a certain group often, talk to them, see if you can get mutual standings set. Much more likely to keep you safe than asking on the forums not to get blown up.
Well, the last I looked, Etherial Dawn failed in it's last attempt to become an actual 0.0 Alliance. ------
Shakor Clan Information Portal http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=3 |
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Helplessandlost
Minmatar Convergent Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.28 13:45:00 -
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Once you cross into that first 0.0 gate, or even low sec gate in many cases, you make yourself a part of the ongoing conflicts in that region. Sad to say but the biggest thing you have probably done with this post is to draw attention to yourself.
Another question I have for you is that you ask if you send an e-mail to someone they should come help you? Would you in turn do the same if someone sent you such a request?
"Don't take life too seriously, nobody gets out alive!"
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Powdder
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Turk The recent war between U'K and the pirates has been going on for awhile now. What some people do not know is that the pirates are also affecting the civilians who do not wish to be anywhere near this war. While recent events such the station camp a couple of jumps from the war zone has the cost of billion of isk to small corps, who wish to remain neutral. Please keep the war in a paticular area, and do not engage outside that area.
broha, you just made yourself a target. ppl will be hunting you on principle now. enjoy
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Gift
Amarr Loot
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:38:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Turk The recent war between U'K and the pirates has been going on for awhile now. What some people do not know is that the pirates are also affecting the civilians who do not wish to be anywhere near this war. While recent events such the station camp a couple of jumps from the war zone has the cost of billion of isk to small corps, who wish to remain neutral. Please keep the war in a paticular area, and do not engage outside that area.
I feel for you completely. Loot has been minding its own business in derelik and some how got lumped in with these rogues. Perhaps you could give me your location and we could mount a security force for mutual protection. I look forward to hearing from you.
Pirates of Eve, Join channel "Pirate" Today!
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zoolkhan
Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.09.29 08:48:00 -
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a) ushrakhan had nothing to do with the incident b) pirates pirate, also when there is no "war" nearby thats why nobody likes them c) the young fellow mr. turk learned both lessons by now
Therefore, brothers and sisters cease forum fire,back to your veldspar hush :)
U'K recruit!
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Stella Centauri
Spontaneous Defenestration Coalition of Carebear Killers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 09:27:00 -
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The next time you're trying to take billions of iskies trough the area be sure to let a correspondant from Spontaneous Defenestration know about it.
We may or may not be able to sort you out. --------------------------------------- Stella - If your boss gets to choose. |
Mynas Atoch
Caldari ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.29 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: Stella Centauri The next time you're trying to take billions of iskies trough the area be sure to let a correspondant from Spontaneous Defenestration know about it.
We may or may not be able to sort you out.
ISS Navy Task Force endorse this post. We take billions of iskies through this area daily, and we often see CCK helpfully scouting the way just ahead of us, or dashing back through the gate we are coming in to check that the route behind us is clear. CCK .. making spacelanes safe for us regular folks.
Myn
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Kyozoku
Loot
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Posted - 2006.09.30 04:01:00 -
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Pirates attacking neutrals? I am shocked and outraged.
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celous
Caldari Dark Skyes
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Posted - 2006.09.30 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Turk The recent war between U'K and the pirates has been going on for awhile now. What some people do not know is that the pirates are also affecting the civilians who do not wish to be anywhere near this war. While recent events such the station camp a couple of jumps from the war zone has the cost of billion of isk to small corps, who wish to remain neutral. Please keep the war in a paticular area, and do not engage outside that area.
for real? u base ur pos or corp in 0.0 u should help the local forces if not then dont complain!!
sounds like u guys have no understanding how to work in 0.0 space at all
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Belid Hagen
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Posted - 2006.10.01 00:02:00 -
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1: this post delivers. 2: Im a newb carebear, and even i feel like hunting down the OP
thanks for the entertainment
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Tbone
Caldari Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2006.10.01 04:50:00 -
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this is funny ****. i wish i would have seen this earlier. I give u a great big LOLOLOLOL. Go back to high sec if ur that worried. And yes, I stand by Ange1 and Verones statements. -----------------------------------------------
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