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Chrisb6122 Gallente This is a name of a corperation	Posted - 2006.09.26 23:06:00 - [1] Over teh past 2-3 weeks in ingame trade channels the same person has made a trail account and copied and pasted a URL link to a site which sells isk for cash. This isn't something new and thus shouldnt be that hard to solve The player has the same typo in the link and posts every 2-3 hours on a very regular basis. Questions have been asked why can't CCP ban the IP from connecting to teh server but its more then likely he will be suing proxys to bypass this. Its only confirmed to be a player and not a macro because gang invites stop him spamming until he clicks accept spams in the channel until you kick him or a GM discconects him from the game. I do have alot of fun inviting and kicking these trail accounts but is it not time for trail account privilages to be changed. I cannot honestly think of a reason someone on a trail account needs to be able to TYPE TEXT into a trade channel. I can understand wanting to see the ecomemy and my random rants in various channels but they don't need to add to the discussion This subject has been debated to the death i know and i apologize for starting a new thread but there starting to bug me. People will be buying from these people without knowing its a simple as that or they wouldn't be coming back. The point of this thread is to ask is there any changes in the pipe for trail accounts to be altered in trade channels and eve mail messages
Lord Sid Minmatar Lordless	Posted - 2006.09.26 23:09:00 - [2] The reason they can't be banned by IP is this. -=Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds=-
DubanFP Caldari	Posted - 2006.09.26 23:13:00 - [3] Not to mention anyone wtih any broadband connection can just restart thier modem and get a new IP rendering the old one obsolete.
Chrisb6122 Gallente This is a name of a corperation	Posted - 2006.09.26 23:16:00 - [4] If it is becoming so hard to stop people from connecting to the game. Does that not suggest there needs to be other means of stopping these people. An version of ISD to instantly block these people in ingame channels from talking or something. I know someone will point out that just stopping trail accounts won't solive the problem but its a start on it.
Lord Sid Minmatar Lordless	Posted - 2006.09.26 23:18:00 - [5] I think what you should really question is why it bothers you so much. Seems a bit envious to me. -=Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds=-
Chrisb6122 Gallente This is a name of a corperation	Posted - 2006.09.26 23:22:00 - [6] Originally by: Lord Sid I think what you should really question is why it bothers you so much. Seems a bit envious to me. Today ingame I am 3 years old For the past 3 years I have traded everything from Miner 2s and meta items in 03 to jove parts in 04 or 05 when ever it was to high end tech 2 bpos. It annoys me that someone can affect my game play so much by advertising getting every swearing at teh trail account in the trade channel and being a nuisence. Not to mentiton the number of newer characters who will actually buy isk from the site after going to the link. yah you can pass me off as a carebear or what ever but I play this game for the trading community and that alone. It angers me when someone like this has such an affect on the game by trying to get un weary newer players to "advance" ingame just because they are rich in real life. Im not going into GTC's please leave them out of this.

kieron	Posted - 2006.09.26 23:23:00 - [7] Just as we recently limited the posting ability of trial accounts, we are discussing further limitations on trials that will have an impact on the abusers, but not have a big impact on the potential community members playing in trial accounts. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online

Lord Sid Minmatar Lordless	Posted - 2006.09.26 23:39:00 - [8] Originally by: Chrisb6122 It annoys me that someone can affect my game play so much by advertising getting every swearing at teh trail account in the trade channel and being a nuisence. Not to mentiton the number of newer characters who will actually buy isk from the site after going to the link. It doesn't affect your game play one bit. You're the one deciding to get ****ed off about it. Why don't you just try ignoring these players. Or actually do something and report it. Any time I've reported one of these spammers they are gone in minutes. The plain and simple fact is you're jealous of the farmer selling isk and you're jealous of the new player buying the ISK because the begining of your gameplay wasn't that easy. So my advice is quit letting it worry you and just play the game like they don't exist. Because in the end it doesn't affect you at all. Infact if you think about it putting ISK in the hands of new players actually helps your trade because they are the players most likely to buy something instead of going out and killing rats bs's for it. -=Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds=-
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.09.26 23:42:00 - [9] Originally by: DubanFP Not to mention anyone wtih any broadband connection can just restart thier modem and get a new IP rendering the old one obsolete. I've had the same IP from Adelphia (cable modem) for 3-4 years iirc. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.09.26 23:51:00 - [10] Edited by: Patch86 on 26/09/2006 23:52:18 Incidentally: TRIAL account, not TRAIL account! /me takes his Spelling **** hat off and goes for a lie down........... EDIT: Lol, the name of a certain historic German fascist regime is apparently a profanity. Deary deary me..........
Ragson	Posted - 2006.09.27 00:03:00 - [11] It seems to me that the solution to this is actually pretty simple. Don't just ban the trial accounts, ban the real accounts that are spawning them by sending out the activation codes.
Norma Stitz	Posted - 2006.09.27 00:06:00 - [12] Originally by: Patch86 Edited by: Patch86 on 26/09/2006 23:52:18 Incidentally: TRIAL account, not TRAIL account! /me takes his Spelling ** hat off and goes for a lie down........... EDIT: Lol, the name of a certain historic German fascist regime is apparently a profanity. Deary deary me.......... Using a slang word for an ex-political party does seem to be a bit extreme for forum filter. The word is used everywhere in the english speaking world for someone extreme. Even if it is calling a fat guy a 'cake **'. i.e. he wants everyone elses cake too OK I can understand the Germans being a bit sensitive about it, but are they really that sensitive? I think not.
Gorrg Minmatar	Posted - 2006.09.27 06:14:00 - [13] Originally by: Patch86 Edited by: Patch86 on 26/09/2006 23:52:18 EDIT: Lol, the name of a certain historic German fascist regime is apparently a profanity. Deary deary me.......... Can you say "Godwin's Law?" I knew you could!
Ephemeron Crimson Crusaders Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.09.27 06:23:00 - [14] New rule: Trial accounts are not permitted to send any messages containing URLs, there should be extensive filter that ***'s anything that can be interpreted as a link
Ath Amon	Posted - 2006.09.27 06:46:00 - [15] ehm a question... but it will not be possible to track gold transactions? instead to ban the trial will be way better to ban the source of the income... now if i purchase isk on a site i suppose that someone ingame will give me that isks, seem also quite logical to me that the account who will give me money will be a secondary one... so, again if is it possible to keep track of accounts, why not someone at CCP purchase some amount of isks, get them from the secondary account and track it up to the main one finally banning it?
Kuolematon Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2006.09.27 06:50:00 - [16] Originally by: Ephemeron New rule: Trial accounts are not permitted to send any messages containing URLs, there should be extensive filter that *'s anything that can be interpreted as a link Bah .. new rule: Trial accounts can send one eve-mail per minute. You can block those who spams trade channels. Unnerf Amarr!Ö "I read somewhere that Kali will be featuring turn-based combat to increase immersion.**" ¬ Waagaa Ktlehr
Chrisb6122 Gallente This is a name of a corperation	Posted - 2006.09.27 17:00:00 - [17] Originally by: Lord Sid Originally by: Chrisb6122 stuff Btw was you born an idiot? or did you have to learn from someone?
Grez Minmatar The Raven Warriors	Posted - 2006.09.27 17:20:00 - [18] Edited by: Grez on 27/09/2006 17:20:31 Allow the client to crab the Windows install ID. Ban the user's Windows install ID. Whent he client starts up make it check a list of ID's, all ID's on list = not allowed to go any further. You could also make it catalog the machine ID. Simple to do... --- Cache Clearer Still waiting for a Wrangler-edit!
Exiled One Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2006.09.27 17:22:00 - [19] Originally by: kieron Just as we recently limited the posting ability of trial accounts, we are discussing further limitations on trials that will have an impact on the abusers, but not have a big impact on the potential community members playing in trial accounts. Cap 3 mails per day, restrict access to trade channels - all they will ever need is availiable on the market.
Exiled One Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2006.09.27 17:24:00 - [20] Originally by: Lord Sid Originally by: Chrisb6122 It annoys me that someone can affect my game play so much by advertising getting every swearing at teh trail account in the trade channel and being a nuisence. Not to mentiton the number of newer characters who will actually buy isk from the site after going to the link. It doesn't affect your game play one bit. You're the one deciding to get **ed off about it. Why don't you just try ignoring these players. Or actually do something and report it. Any time I've reported one of these spammers they are gone in minutes. The plain and simple fact is you're jealous of the farmer selling isk and you're jealous of the new player buying the ISK because the begining of your gameplay wasn't that easy. So my advice is quit letting it worry you and just play the game like they don't exist. Because in the end it doesn't affect you at all. Infact if you think about it putting ISK in the hands of new players actually helps your trade because they are the players most likely to buy something instead of going out and killing rats bs's for it. You must be an ISK seller, sir. How about you shut the up and enjoy the ride when 10 bots mail you pictures with * ****. Thank you
gfldex	Posted - 2006.09.27 18:41:00 - [21] Originally by: Grez Edited by: Grez on 27/09/2006 17:20:31 Allow the client to crab the Windows install ID. Ban the user's Windows install ID. Whent he client starts up make it check a list of ID's, all ID's on list = not allowed to go any further. You could also make it catalog the machine ID. Simple to do... Two days later they would have a ***** to remove the restriction. Anything that happens on client side will fail. -- $ perl -n -e 'print "Stop blameing pirates! Oveur is the root of all evil!\n" if m/podkill\|lost my ship\|gank\|gate camp\|Verone/;'
Kor Tei	Posted - 2006.09.27 18:49:00 - [22] Originally by: Lord Sid Originally by: Chrisb6122 It annoys me that someone can affect my game play so much by advertising getting every swearing at teh trail account in the trade channel and being a nuisence. Not to mentiton the number of newer characters who will actually buy isk from the site after going to the link. It doesn't affect your game play one bit. You're the one deciding to get **ed off about it. Why don't you just try ignoring these players. Or actually do something and report it. Any time I've reported one of these spammers they are gone in minutes. The plain and simple fact is you're jealous of the farmer selling isk and you're jealous of the new player buying the ISK because the begining of your gameplay wasn't that easy. So my advice is quit letting it worry you and just play the game like they don't exist. Because in the end it doesn't affect you at all. Infact if you think about it putting ISK in the hands of new players actually helps your trade because they are the players most likely to buy something instead of going out and killing rats bs's for it. Who the ** do you think you are? You have no idea what may or may not upset any given individual. Why don't you try ignoring posts like this so we don't have to listen to your ego driven opinions.
Deja Thoris Revelations Inc.	Posted - 2006.09.27 18:49:00 - [23] Originally by: Lord Sid ... Go troll somewhere else. Originally by: Clementina If you bug report it, you get ignored. If you post about it on the forums, you get banned. If you exploit it, you get rich.

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