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kc51	Posted - 2003.10.24 05:51:00 - [1] I have heard from someone that Eve is about to be launched in Asia. Is this correct? If this is true, there is a HUGE gaming audience in Asia. I've noticed that they have an eve-online Japan. What about the rest of the world, where else are they planning on launching this game at? I also recommend for CCP, if there are people over the world that can't order Eve from anywhere online. Why don't they just sell it on their own website. It's their own game, they can sell it wherever they want. They'd also get more profit from doing it that way. Please leave feedback
Luther Pendragon	Posted - 2003.10.24 05:51:00 - [2] Edited by: Luther Pendragon on 24/10/2003 05:52:32 Hope they have to log on our server, we need the people :/ ____________________________________ Taggart wants YOU. Join TTi! waves his hand in your face in the jedi way
kc51	Posted - 2003.10.24 06:02:00 - [3] Of course they would, why would they go anywhere else? Tranquility is the only server that there will ever be. Unlike Star Wars Galaxies, that has like 15, how *** is that?
Hido	Posted - 2003.10.24 06:25:00 - [4] Well I am playing from Japan just by the way and let me point to a couple of problems people could come across playing from a non-english speaking country. 1. Its not there native language so they cannot understand the content of the game. 2. They are not able to interact with 99% of the population within a MMO cause they only understand basic english. 3. They cannot even read the manual cause its all english and there is no support for there native language. 4. People are only able to use plain old english and they are not able to type to communicate in there native language (for example making the clients uni-code compatible). Although this is not a big problem I can tell you that its a pretty big factor in people deciding if they are going to play or not. Now looking at all those little things up there you can get a slight idea of what I am pointing to. If CCP is willing to listen here is a couple of words of advice for them to attracting customers from Asia which is a huge market which is ripe to exploit :p 1. Make at least the clients in the native language so they are able to interact with the market and there GUI. 2. Make it so that they are able to use there native language within the game (UTF-8) so that if they desire they can use english and if they desire they are able to communicate in there native tongue. 3. Open up servers down this side (at least branches off Tranquility) so that us peeps in Asia are able to get better ping :p (Playing from Japan to Iceland is quiet a distance.) 4. Provide some support in there native language (it always helps to build customers relations). The list could go on and on but there is no real point in me babbling on about all this anyway so let me just end it here. If any other person (Asia) has some opinions you would like to express your welcome to right here :p Living the life Havin it large Welcome to the land of the rising sun
Johnsus	Posted - 2003.10.24 06:32:00 - [5] Quote: 3. They cannot even read the manual cause its all english and there is no support for there native language. I am American, and I think I speak and read pretty good English, and I cannot make heads or tails of the manual. It's the same one that was a .PDF file during Beta. Most of the information is wrong. :) As for non-enlish speaking people being unable to play MMOGs, I beg to differ. English-speaking people are quite arrogant honestly, for most of the rest of the world speaks english or understands it better than we do, and believe me, they have no problem playing games catered to the english speaking world.
Sarah Jane	Posted - 2003.10.24 06:36:00 - [6] Rubbish Hido, i played DAoC on MLF server and at one time it was thought 55% of our realm was Japanese.2 out of the 4 major guilds were Japanese. In fact we would have sucked @ss if i wasn't for our Asian buds -------------------------- <Zybl0re> get up <Zybl0re> get on up <Zybl0re> get up <Zybl0re> get on up <phxl\|paper> and DANCE * nmp3bot dances :D\-< * nmp3bot dances :D\|-< * nmp3bot dances :D/-< <[SA]HatfulOfHollow> i'm going to become rich and famous after i invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet
Georg Inekn	Posted - 2003.10.24 06:38:00 - [7] If the Asian market is reliant on a native-language GUI, I don't think we're going to have too many Asian market players. I'd venture to guess that coding something of that nature is a bit more than the devs have the time to do at present.
Hido	Posted - 2003.10.24 06:40:00 - [8] I am not saying all Japanese cannot speak (I am a good example of a Japanese who speaks good english) but remember that there is a much bigger market. I am talking in terms of a much bigger market where for years console games have been dominating and just within the last couple of years PC has started to come into effect. I am all for getting more Asian peeps into the game and all I was saying was how things could be "friendlier" which in turn can attract more peeps. Everybody is making it sound like I am trying to start a flaming war here Living the life Havin it large Welcome to the land of the rising sun
Hido	Posted - 2003.10.24 06:42:00 - [9] Georg thats not a problem, all I am saying is that you could get a hell of a lot more people if they could make everything "eastern friendly" is all. Remember that most of these countries like Japan/Taiwan etc do English as there second language. Its not very good english but it gives them the basics :p Living the life Havin it large Welcome to the land of the rising sun
Tabius	Posted - 2003.10.24 06:46:00 - [10] This game is going to get really interesting if they launch this in Korean. They take their gaming very very seriously...
kc51	Posted - 2003.10.24 06:51:00 - [11] Well, most of the people in like Denmark, Germany, South America, Italy, english is their second language as well, they speak it pretty good as far as i'm concerned. I've never ran into a problem where they couldn't understand or be understood. What about Counter-Strike, as far as I know, that game is only in english. In Asia, there are massive amounts of CS players there. But I do totally agree, there is an EXTREME market there, especially Korea <----(big one there), Japan, China, Taiwan, Thailand, Singapore, just to name a few, dont know about the others. I would love to see Eve Online have more than 10k of people on at the same time. With the US, Europe, and Asia, this will have a consistent stream of people playing. Being that peak time would be at about 5 or 6 pm california time. Morning for Asia, afternoon for US, nighttime for Europe. I'm excited to see how many people can get on here after the launch in Asia.
Hido	Posted - 2003.10.24 06:55:00 - [12] Have you played CS in Korea or Japan??? They use "alphabets" but its written in Japanese so you could read it but not understand it :p I for one am really up for getting more players down this side cause I always play EVE @ JST timezone and when I am on it seems the rest of the world is asleep or are going to sleep soon :p Come on CCP provide for us peeps in Asia with better pings :) Living the life Havin it large Welcome to the land of the rising sun
kc51	Posted - 2003.10.24 07:00:00 - [13] Unfortunately, I have not played cs in korea or japan, I didn't know that the characters were japanese or korea, hmmmm. They prolly just use the ingame voice system. I don't know if CCP could take on something like that, that's that big. Also they'd wanna do it for all of asia, but coding a few different languages would be pretty hard I guess. So there isn't that many people that speak english over there then? When i went to japan 3 times, i didn't see that many english speakers over there, but i guess they just didn't wanna talk to the us navy. Don't blame them.
Jolo	Posted - 2003.10.24 08:00:00 - [14] Edited by: Jolo on 24/10/2003 08:01:06 Quote: Well I am playing from Japan just by the way and let me point to a couple of problems people could come across playing from a non-english speaking country. 1. Its not there native language so they cannot understand the content of the game. 2. They are not able to interact with 99% of the population within a MMO cause they only understand basic english. 3. They cannot even read the manual cause its all english and there is no support for there native language. 4. People are only able to use plain old english and they are not able to type to communicate in there native language (for example making the clients uni-code compatible). Although this is not a big problem I can tell you that its a pretty big factor in people deciding if they are going to play or not. Now looking at all those little things up there you can get a slight idea of what I am pointing to. If CCP is willing to listen here is a couple of words of advice for them to attracting customers from Asia which is a huge market which is ripe to exploit :p 1. Make at least the clients in the native language so they are able to interact with the market and there GUI. 2. Make it so that they are able to use there native language within the game (UTF-8) so that if they desire they can use english and if they desire they are able to communicate in there native tongue. 3. Open up servers down this side (at least branches off Tranquility) so that us peeps in Asia are able to get better ping :p (Playing from Japan to Iceland is quiet a distance.) I'm american (go san francisco!) but 90% of my corp is euro-style (non-english) and those monkeys talk better english than I do, so saying they don't know the content or can't read or speak in the game is B.S. Whats even more funny is we all use Ventrilo, the Voice Chat thing, and all of them use it too and we ALL SPEAK ENGLISH. I think you are under-estimating the power of the asian persuasion. ---------------------------------------
Steini OFSI	Posted - 2003.10.24 08:10:00 - [15] Tranquility is in London, however there are proxy based around the world, it's computer->proxy (witch will be set up around in Asia)->London
Discorporation	Posted - 2003.10.24 08:18:00 - [16] Edited by: Discorporation on 24/10/2003 08:20:38 Run! Flee! The Koreans are coming!!! [Hears echoes of the dreaded "kekekeke" coming closer and closer] [Heterocephalus glaber]
MOOstradamus	Posted - 2003.10.24 08:40:00 - [17] kekekekekekekekekeke <-- like that you mean/fear MOOrovingian "Following & supporting EVE (since Jan 2001) is like wiping your arse with sandpaper."
Discorporation	Posted - 2003.10.24 08:44:00 - [18] NOES!!! See, it already got mooci! [Heterocephalus glaber]
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2003.10.24 08:47:00 - [19] Damn it, once we get those game-crazy Japanese guys playing we'll all get owned LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Discorporation	Posted - 2003.10.24 08:52:00 - [20] Eve doesn't lend itself well to powerlevelling, though, which is a good thing, imho [Heterocephalus glaber]
Steini OFSI	Posted - 2003.10.24 08:56:00 - [21] I recon they have good waves there
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2003.10.24 09:00:00 - [22] Power-levelling? I remember doin' that in Final Fantasy 7 on the Playstation on a remote island. The monsters always always used heat attacks so you just equipped the correct materia to absorb heat attacks and also dish out freeze attacks. All you had to do was use 2 clamps to hold down the O and X buttons on auto-repeat and leave the game for a couple of hours - levelled-up pretty damn quick LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Drethen Nerevitas	Posted - 2003.10.24 10:48:00 - [23] Quote: English-speaking people are quite arrogant honestly, for most of the rest of the world speaks english or understands it better than we do, and believe me, they have no problem playing games catered to the english speaking world. No, that's because most "average" (=stupid, don't argue with me, you know 99% of the world are complete idiots ) Americans, and Americanised people (Us Brits are a good example of that...nooooo being absorbed! ) happen to have developed a rather shoddy attitude to anyone they don't like or know . There are still however, quite a few people out here that try to retain some amount of reasonability . Not all Americans/Brits are ebil arrogant wannabe punks . Oh. And yes, non-native speakers are usually better at English than those whose language it is primarily (Possibly because they don't use it enough to get lazy at it?). </lecture> Oh and Josh...that's afk levelling. Power levelling, an example would be beating the ** out of a path of monsters on Dungeon Seige right to the end of the game nonstop, exiting, reloading the multiplay map and doing it all over again, repeatedly till you have a level 200 char or something ridiculous . _______________________________________________________________________ IMPORTANT: Devs (and players) please take notice.** 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7.
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2003.10.24 10:51:00 - [24] Quote: Quote: English-speaking people are quite arrogant honestly, for most of the rest of the world speaks english or understands it better than we do, and believe me, they have no problem playing games catered to the english speaking world. No, that's because most "average" (=stupid, don't argue with me, you know 99% of the world are complete idiots ) Americans, and Americanised people (Us Brits are a good example of that...nooooo being absorbed! ) happen to have developed a rather shoddy attitude to anyone they don't like or know . There are still however, quite a few people out here that try to retain some amount of reasonability . Not all Americans/Brits are ebil arrogant wannabe punks . Oh. And yes, non-native speakers are usually better at English than those whose language it is primarily (Possibly because they don't use it enough to get lazy at it?). </lecture> Oh and Josh...that's afk levelling. Power levelling, an example would be beating the ** out of a path of monsters on Dungeon Seige right to the end of the game nonstop, exiting, reloading the multiplay map and doing it all over again, repeatedly till you have a level 200 char or something ridiculous . I never completed Dungeon Siege - it got boring! Ace graphics though. I've still got the save game files so I'll return to it one day. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!**
Drethen Nerevitas	Posted - 2003.10.24 11:11:00 - [25] Linear, although the storyline was nice, I wish M$ had bothered to pull it out to what it could have been. DS could have been the MMORPG out here . A twenty player PvP battle in the middle of a castle full of hostiles and similar things though was very fun . Especially if everyone has tolerated the boredom to get their characters to level 200+ with maxed magic items (reloading the game till shop has 'em...). _______________________________________________________________________ *IMPORTANT: Devs (and players) please take notice.* 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7.
Jael Markinsen	Posted - 2003.10.24 11:34:00 - [26] "Damn it, once we get those game-crazy Japanese guys playing we'll all get owned"... Man, you ain't even slightly joking with this statement, and the reason i know is two words, STAR and CRAFT.
Hido	Posted - 2003.10.24 11:37:00 - [27] Not to worry, I have started (Japanese here) and soon enough will get some others playing as well Living the life Havin it large Welcome to the land of the rising sun
Drethen Nerevitas	Posted - 2003.10.24 11:38:00 - [28] Quote: "Damn it, once we get those game-crazy Japanese guys playing we'll all get owned"... Man, you ain't even slightly joking with this statement, and the reason i know is two words, STAR and CRAFT. Does that mean I'll have to pwn them all for you? _______________________________________________________________________ *IMPORTANT: Devs (and players) please take notice.* 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7.
Slithereen	Posted - 2003.10.24 11:52:00 - [29] I've been playing from Asia within days of release. Surely the boxes get around pretty fast. Despite the enormous half the world distance from where I play to Tranquility server, connection with broadband is pretty decent. I get CTDs but I don't seem to get them as often as some people are in Britain. There are lots of English speaking people in this time zone. The Australians and the Kiwis (New Zealanders) are a given, but there are plenty of English speakers also in Singapore, Hong Kong, Philippines, India, and Malaysia. I have yet to see a Korean player in the game, but I've seen some Japanese corp---there is a group that calls themselves Imperial Japanese Navy (IJN) based on Amarr domain region at the Arbaz system next to Chaven. The problem of Asian players is the server downtime---it hits right in the middle of the evening. If there are bugs or patches calling for extended downtime, you might as well call it off for the night. Joining a corp can be a problem too, especially if the corp is Europe or US based. When you're around, your corp mates aren't. And if they come online, they're not there to stay long since they're going for work or just checking up on the training. So you're practically alone. And if there is a joint corp action, I would need to leave them half way just to go to sleep since it can get very late in Asia just when the action heats up in Europe. Being alone means you won't get shot about in PvP, but then you won't get the chance to engage in fleet actions either with your corp. The plus on the other hand, is that there are less people just before and just after DT. This is very good for raiding spawn sites. Also, there are less people on the servers so you get less lag. But the servers are practically deserted (less than 2000 people in the Asian evenings). EVE in these hours seem a very different EVE you read in the forums---not corp wars, not even pirates, almost everyone asleep. _______________________________________________ "Is it me or the bad guys just getting totally pathetic?"---Clover, Totally Spies, "Hope is wasted on the Hopeless."---Mandy, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy. "Stars are holes in the sky from which the light of the Infinite shine through."---Confucius.
Kunming	Posted - 2003.10.24 11:54:00 - [30] I completely not agree that Asian ppl cant speak or understand english... This just plain stupid. U should know that the best Starcraft players are Japaneese ppl and the world champion is a Korean guy. Pls dont talk about diffirent cultures that u dont really know, u will just insult yourself. <Kunming Out> Intercepting since BETA

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