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Audri Fisher Caldari The Keep THE R0CK	Posted - 2006.09.29 03:51:00 - [1] seeing as how going faster can mess up a drone tracking, and you cannot unlearn skills, is this a good skill to learn?
Deja Thoris Revelations Inc.	Posted - 2006.09.29 04:10:00 - [2] It apparently only affects their mwd speed as they approach a target. Once they get into orbit they are fine. I have a corpie with this trained to V and hes not whining so I assume its ok Originally by: Clementina If you bug report it, you get ignored. If you post about it on the forums, you get banned. If you exploit it, you get rich.
Galifardeua Gallente Completament Tarats	Posted - 2006.09.29 12:58:00 - [3] Word on the street said that trainig drone sharpshooting to the same level leveled things off. Don't know for sure, level 4 in both, but as I can't see the effect, nor the damage, I can't say for sure.
Kyreax Gallente Rising Sun Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.29 18:10:00 - [4] I have both Drone Nav and Drone Sharpshooting trained to V... before I trained up Drone Sharpshooting, my drones couldn't hit a spacebarn door. Everything's fine though now. Even my mediums can take out the frigates with only some misses. The best benefit to the Drone Navigation seems to be time-to-target, obviously. ---------- My Sig is DEV-Proof, Color-Proof, and Moderator-Proof. but not pink proof hahahahhahahahahahahaha -PINK You drunk Quafe monkey, Pink IS a color.
Audri Fisher Caldari The Keep THE R0CK	Posted - 2006.10.01 01:20:00 - [5] thanks
Jalia Kovac Placid Reborn Placid Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.01 03:07:00 - [6] Could CCP please come out and give an complete description of how this skill impacts drone abilities? This really has lingered on far too long with players not having any clue as to whether Drone Navigation has a detrimental effect on drone tracking or not. ► Intaki Canonical Resouces ◄
Nande Caldari	Posted - 2006.10.01 11:06:00 - [7] Edited by: Nande on 01/10/2006 11:06:38 Originally by: Galifardeua Word on the street said that trainig drone sharpshooting to the same level leveled things off. I keep reading this, but it defies all logic - sharpshooting increases drone optimal range, has nothing to do with its tracking speed. Even if Drone Navigation would make drones miss more, Drone Sharpshooting shouldn't be able to compensate, right? Or, all the descriptions are fubar :P
Galifardeua Gallente Completament Tarats	Posted - 2006.10.01 12:02:00 - [8] Originally by: Nande Originally by: Galifardeua Word on the street said that trainig drone sharpshooting to the same level leveled things off. I keep reading this, but it defies all logic - sharpshooting increases drone optimal range, has nothing to do with its tracking speed. Even if Drone Navigation would make drones miss more, Drone Sharpshooting shouldn't be able to compensate, right? Or, all the descriptions are fubar :P The farther away from an object you are the less tracking you'll need, because the transversal speed will be lower. If you have low tracking you have to orbit farther than if you have good tracking. Play with the tracking guide in the player guide.
Pattern Clarc The Priory	Posted - 2006.10.02 14:36:00 - [9] Originally by: Nande Edited by: Nande on 01/10/2006 11:06:38 Originally by: Galifardeua Word on the street said that trainig drone sharpshooting to the same level leveled things off. I keep reading this, but it defies all logic - sharpshooting increases drone optimal range, has nothing to do with its tracking speed. Even if Drone Navigation would make drones miss more, Drone Sharpshooting shouldn't be able to compensate, right? Or, all the descriptions are fubar :P it's like when you break in a car, you need some stopping distance, the faster you travel, the greater the room you need between cars becomes. When drone speed increases, it's harder for drones to keep within optimal, so the larger your drones optimal is the better.
CaptainSeafort Gallente Through the Looking Glass	Posted - 2006.10.02 15:45:00 - [10] seeing as drones typically orbit between 1 and 3km, and the optimal of a heavy is like 5km, thats a pile of horses tbh. once again, we need a definitive answer on whether the descriptions of these skills are really accurate, and whether the tracking problem with drone nav is still there "Planets and moons no longer hitch rides on player ships. Their towel privileges have been revoked." HHGG Lives on in EVE!

Ghaulth Gallente GoonWaffe GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.10.02 17:06:00 - [11] Edited by: Ghaulth on 02/10/2006 17:06:22 Originally by: CaptainSeafort seeing as drones typically orbit between 1 and 3km, and the optimal of a heavy is like 5km, thats a pile of horses tbh. once again, we need a definitive answer on whether the descriptions of these skills are really accurate, and whether the tracking problem with drone nav is still there Could you explain, exactly, why you think it's "a pile of horses"? The math is sound. Consider a heavy drone (the Wasp I). This has a 1km optimal. Orbiting an object at optimal (1000m), the drone will travel 6283m, each pass. With drone SS V, the optimal range is 1250m, increasing the orbit distance to 7853. If you don't think that that will have a noticable impact on traversal (and, by extension, hit percentage), then I really don't know what to tell you. Drone Navigation should not be trained higher than Drone Sharpshooting. This was a problem in the past. A few people posted that CCP had fixed it. If they did, then they broke it again soon after, because the bug (assuming it is a bug) is still present. Again: Training Drone Navigation beyond Drone Sharpshooting will lead to a noticable drop in damage output from combat drones. If you don't believe everyone else who has reported the same thing time and again, then go train DN over DS.
CaptainSeafort Gallente Through the Looking Glass	Posted - 2006.10.02 19:12:00 - [12] dont worry then, it seems my drones enjoy orbiting miles away xD me+a friend with near identical drone skils tested. mine orbited at like 2km, his at like 900m xD "Planets and moons no longer hitch rides on player ships. Their towel privileges have been revoked." HHGG Lives on in EVE!
Ezra Gallente Calista Industries	Posted - 2006.10.02 19:51:00 - [13] Originally by: Ghaulth Edited by: Ghaulth on 02/10/2006 17:06:22 Originally by: CaptainSeafort seeing as drones typically orbit between 1 and 3km, and the optimal of a heavy is like 5km, thats a pile of horses tbh. once again, we need a definitive answer on whether the descriptions of these skills are really accurate, and whether the tracking problem with drone nav is still there Could you explain, exactly, why you think it's "a pile of horses"? The math is sound. Consider a heavy drone (the Wasp I). This has a 1km optimal. Orbiting an object at optimal (1000m), the drone will travel 6283m, each pass. With drone SS V, the optimal range is 1250m, increasing the orbit distance to 7853. If you don't think that that will have a noticable impact on traversal (and, by extension, hit percentage), then I really don't know what to tell you. Drone Navigation should not be trained higher than Drone Sharpshooting. This was a problem in the past. A few people posted that CCP had fixed it. If they did, then they broke it again soon after, because the bug (assuming it is a bug) is still present. Again: Training Drone Navigation beyond Drone Sharpshooting will lead to a noticable drop in damage output from combat drones. If you don't believe everyone else who has reported the same thing time and again, then go train DN over DS. I think the issue is - Are drones smart enough to increase their orbit radius to take advantage of increased optimal? I'd be surprised if they were. ------------ Ezra Cornell pe0n, Calista Industries
Ghaulth Gallente GoonWaffe GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.10.02 21:46:00 - [14] Edited by: Ghaulth on 02/10/2006 21:51:27 Edited by: Ghaulth on 02/10/2006 21:49:31 Originally by: Ezra I think the issue is - Are drones smart enough to increase their orbit radius to take advantage of increased optimal? Yes. Drones will always attempt to orbit at their optimal, which takes DS into account. That's why Drone Sharpshooting works. If Drones did not take DS optimal range boosts into account, the difference between Drones with DS V, and drones without DS, would be negligable. In fact, they would probably fight worse, since they would be attacking from a range that was 25% off their optimal.


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