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Xtra Bitter
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Posted - 2003.10.24 20:27:00 -
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Ok so heres the deal we all know something appears amiss so how about all those over 350 missions post a little information about the agent and themselves to see if we can find a link.
To start off
Agent Repbulic Fleet Medicore agent -15% +10% Also offers Sec services and slaves Race Minmatar Location Pator
Character Race Caldari (wonder if this is significant) Charisma 14 with implant Social 4
If anyone can think of anything else to add just say so.
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.10.24 20:58:00 -
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its not the agent etc - theres a bug, just nobody (@ CCP) has gotten around to admitting it/finding it yet.
Hence "its just bad luck" from the GMs and those wonderful people who anser the "other" petitions. 
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Xtra Bitter
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Posted - 2003.10.24 21:59:00 -
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I think the same as you but the more we can do to prove it isnt anything else the closer we get to them accepting the bug. Im not prepared to see the time ive spent on 460 missions flushed down the toilet without a fight.
As i understand it the GM's dont have access to tell if any agent is bugged or not so the only hope we have is pushing this higher.
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Shevar
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Posted - 2003.10.24 22:15:00 -
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Hmm could be that factions only give bp's to players of that race just a thought  -------- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.10.28 03:13:00 -
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424 in the bag, no fight missions, 2 modules recieved, every 6th mission is the loathed shopping spree and this employee is about to go postal and destroy everything minmatar.                       
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Pirindolo
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Posted - 2003.10.28 07:15:00 -
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This problen is now very common. Read what zrakor said.
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Alex Duron
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Posted - 2003.10.28 07:34:00 -
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342 1 deliberate fail @ 309 to see if it would jumpstart agent. charisma 15. social lvl 5. No bp yet. wife got hers at 277 with less charisma and less social skill. Has anyone with social lvl 5 gotten one yet? Everyone i have seen post that they got one has had social lvl 4. Got 5 other lvl 3 referals and 17 implants but that doesn't make up for all the time spent going after the bp reward.
Agent: goin larboken Reset IV moon 4 minmatar mining corporation mineral reserve Awesome (agent +19, standing +10) Faction: Minmatar republic +6.0 Corp. standing +6.0
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.10.28 11:31:00 -
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I have social skill lvl5 and I can say the rewards and variation of the missions went to **** once I'd gotten that.
If it helps with your standings and standings need to be so-so to get certain rewarding missions then the skill is an obstacle, not a helpful tool, stay away from it, it does not work!
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Pirindolo
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Posted - 2003.10.28 11:46:00 -
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AFAIK, if you don't get the BP mission between mission 250th and mission 290#, you won't get it.
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Othnark
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Posted - 2003.10.28 13:14:00 -
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Quote: its not the agent etc - theres a bug, just nobody (@ CCP) has gotten around to admitting it/finding it yet.
Hence "its just bad luck" from the GMs and those wonderful people who anser the "other" petitions. 
Yeah i dont know there Morkt, Ive seen some dude shoot craps for 40 minutes straight without throwing a 7 when he was trying to hit his point. After about 10 minutes, the table was so full of bets that it took a minute or more for the dealers to pay people after each roll. It was farking insano! We couldnt lose I tell you, we COULDNT LOSE! Maybe 3-4 times he threw 7 on the come out roll that cleared a lot of the bets but at least payed the pass line. Oh well, whats the point? Anything can happen. Ok you caught me I just wanted to post about one of my greatest craps experiences ever. You cannot begin to imagine the uproarius celebrations that were happening at that table man.....
But youre right it does seem that too many people arent getting their bps. What we need to know for certain however, is how many people actually gor theirs.
-Othnark
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Alkad Mzu
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Posted - 2003.10.28 13:23:00 -
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Picture this:
A casino stuffed with loads of people unable to hit 7.
Makes you start to rethink any theory you may have had about coincidence doesn't it :p
More like a galactical conspiracy, alien influence, CIA, IRS etc ________________________________________________
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.10.28 13:57:00 -
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Othnark - yeah "but"...
the missionis supposedly available after X succesful missions are completed (that nubmer of missions being what we worked out we could roughly predict based on attributes/skill)
If you get the BP at that point, which "most" do, you are "lucky".
If you don't get it at that point you are "unlucky" and may have to do another 300 missions to get it.
The problem is the range and that if you dont get it "immediately" then you go off to purgatory.
There isn't a "re-roll" one very subsequent mission with a chance to get the mission again.. or if there is it is infinitesimally small compared to the first roll (they change the dice).
Something isnt working right - int he code as intended, and the way that code was designed tow ork is flawed in any case (imo).
The range is way way way too massive, involves no player interaction or control and serves no viewable purpose in terms of gameplay, fun, interactivity, backstory, immersion etc etc.
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Pirindolo
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Posted - 2003.10.28 14:55:00 -
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Edited by: Pirindolo on 28/10/2003 15:04:26 As Morkt says, it could work like this:
Between mission # 250 and mission # 299 (275 is the average) you have a probability of getting the BP mission (given that you have the right standings towards your agent, his corp and his faction, etc). IMO that probability is 50%.
Well, if you don't get it by mission # 299, the agent resets that probability to almost 0% again, and you have to start a new cicle that has necessarily to end by mission # 550 according to what the devs have said before.
Why 550? Well, 550 is 275 x 2, and most likely again you will get twice the probability of getting the BP (50% x 2 = 100%).
Then, If you didn't get the BP before the 300th mission, you will get around the 550th.
I hope Zrakor will read this and answer that I am so wrong...
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Darklogan
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Posted - 2003.10.28 18:19:00 -
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Great, in my corp we have 5 people all with more then 350 missione and all without any BP. They should continue to 550. Really well balance engine if it is like you said. 
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.10.28 18:54:00 -
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Quote: Great, in my corp we have 5 people all with more then 350 missione and all without any BP. They should continue to 550. Really well balance engine if it is like you said. 
I am currently at 428 and have "persuaded" a GM to look into it.. we shall see if anything becomes clearer.
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Pirindolo
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Posted - 2003.10.28 18:56:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: Great, in my corp we have 5 people all with more then 350 missione and all without any BP. They should continue to 550. Really well balance engine if it is like you said. 
I am currently at 428 and have "persuaded" a GM to look into it.. we shall see if anything becomes clearer.
Hey Morkt,
Keep us informed, please.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.10.28 19:23:00 -
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434, keep it up Morkt!
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Mrissa Easeah
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Posted - 2003.10.28 19:27:00 -
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Yeesh!
Does this mean if I don't get my BP before mission 299 (I'm now at 270 completed, no failures), I should just wait for the mission to reset itself (without asking for work, without not-accepting, without refusing/failing) and keep the mission counter for that agent below 300 until it triggers?
What is the -maximum- number of missions (no fails) its still allowed a BP drop?
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.10.28 19:33:00 -
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550 supposedly Mrissa
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Pirindolo
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Posted - 2003.10.28 19:39:00 -
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Quote: Yeesh!
Does this mean if I don't get my BP before mission 299 (I'm now at 270 completed, no failures), I should just wait for the mission to reset itself (without asking for work, without not-accepting, without refusing/failing) and keep the mission counter for that agent below 300 until it triggers?
What is the -maximum- number of missions (no fails) its still allowed a BP drop?
I have no idea if that could work. Anyway, if you want to try it, don't wait till the 299th. 260 would be a better number to start, in my opinion. But I didn't test it, so no guarantee of success, sorry.
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Teen
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Posted - 2003.10.29 11:20:00 -
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has there been anything official on this?
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Pirindolo
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Posted - 2003.10.29 14:50:00 -
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Quote: has there been anything official on this?
More or less: All the agent system depends only on the luck, and you can do infinite missions without getting the BP mission.
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