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oreguy
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.09.29 19:06:00 -
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Edited by: oreguy on 29/09/2006 19:07:05
Can anyone give me advice on my vigilant setup please. Its currently the following:
High:
5 x Heavy Electron II's fitted with Void
Mids:
1 x Fleeting 20km scram
1 x X5 Webifier
1 x Y-T8 10mn mwd
1 x Medium Electromechemical Cap Booster fitted with 2 x 400 charges
Lows:
1 x Mag Stab II
1 x Kinetic Hardner II
1 x Explosive Hardner II
1 x Thermal Hardner II
1 x Medium Armor Rep II
Drones:
5 x Medium Explosive II's
The armor resistances are as follows:
EM = 60%
Explosive = 59.5%
Kinetic = 70.75%
Thermal = 70.75%
The DPS of the guns using the two different types of T2 ammo is as follows:
null = 255 DPS
void = 350 DPS
(Note this is not the total DPS as it does not include the drones)
In the cargo atm i'm using a small container with 6 x 400 charges inside. The inside the rest of the cargo i have a further 2 x 400 charges and 2200 void ammo.
What i'm after is someone to tell me what they think the flaws of this setup will be and any faction mods which could improve my damage or tank or even the setup of this baby (no post 100mil mods please, remember this is a sub 100mil ship =) )
Any setups that other vigilant users fly please let me know or any implants that would help please let me know.
Thanks for any help in advance!!!
Oh and i still have 10.5 cpu and 63 pg spare.
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Fenderson
Ridin' Dirty
Muffins of Mayhem
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Posted - 2006.09.29 19:10:00 -
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i would say thats about as good as your gona get...
You could go with ion blasters and drop the injector for a cap recharger, but that cap injector is pretty bad a**.
Another idea would be to plate it and go passive tank. That seems to work pretty well for thoraxes.
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Brakefield
Gallente
Ocean Dynamics
Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.29 19:49:00 -
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Super standard Vigliant/Deimos/Thorax setup -- can't do much about it really , perhaps just change around tanking setups.
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Fenderson
Ridin' Dirty
Muffins of Mayhem
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Posted - 2006.09.29 19:54:00 -
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yep
fitting those things gets pretty repetetive after a while...
*real men structure tank* |
oreguy
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:06:00 -
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hmm thats what i've been thinking, not much you can do with such a limited pg on this thing. Think i might get a faction mag stab and maybe a faction mwd.
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Fenderson
Ridin' Dirty
Muffins of Mayhem
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:14:00 -
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are you trying to use this for pvp? If so, i recommend strongly against putting alot of isk in to it. Vigilants are cool and all but they die really really easy. Go up against any decent BS and you will get vaporized before you can blink.
Thats true even in a Deimos, which has a significantly better tank than a vigilant.
I would say stick with your t2 fitting and dont blow any more money on faction gear for it. Cuz you will die, and you will be a sad panda.
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oreguy
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.09.29 21:23:00 -
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You gotta blow your isk on something lol!
But i think i'll just put some faction gear on that i can afford to lose and find. But yer pvp in this ship.
I'll probly just run it in gangs until i'm used to it. Just makes a change from flying my deimos. And it looks nicer!
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oreguy
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.09.29 21:26:00 -
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What i'm wondering now is would it be better to have 3 x hardners or 3 x energized adaptive nano membranes II?
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Blanche Virgo
The Followers of Origin
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:37:00 -
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If I'm not mistaken 2 Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane (EANM) II's and 1 Named Damage Control is going to be a better tank than 3 EANM's. I'm not sure if it's better than the Exp/Therm/Kin hardeners though.
I would say it is due to the fact that you get a huge boost to your structure resist, which is quite hefty on a Gallente ship. Also you can continue to armor rep even after they hit your structure. I do not have any solid numbers to support one way over the other though.
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Michayel Lyon
Contention Inc
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Posted - 2006.09.30 02:21:00 -
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The flaw is your nber-weak tank.
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Aterna
Minmatar
M'8'S
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Posted - 2006.09.30 03:11:00 -
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You're not going to get any variation on your highs or mids. About the only thing you can do is vary the amount of tank you have fitted. thorax hull just doesn't have enough grid to pull off much variation in fittings.
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oreguy
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.09.30 14:10:00 -
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 Originally by: Michayel Lyon
The flaw is your nber-weak tank.
How so, and what would you suggest fitting instead then?
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Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2006.09.30 15:05:00 -
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Try 2x energized adaptive nano memrane IIs and a damage control instead of the 3 hardeners, it will give you similar resists, and give you nice resists on the maassive hull that gall ships hav.
The rest looks ok, but a rax is cheaper, and will perform about the same. Ok so you may run out of cap without the injector on a normal rax, but you can buy and fit 10 raxes for the cost of a vigilant.
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Michayel Lyon
Contention Inc
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Posted - 2006.09.30 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: oreguy
Originally by: Michayel Lyon
The flaw is your nber-weak tank.
How so, and what would you suggest fitting instead then?
Sorry, I don't share my setups. Why give up your edge, eh? 
Plus, I'm pretty sure it would just start a flame war...
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Djerin
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Posted - 2006.09.30 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: Michayel Lyon
Originally by: oreguy
Originally by: Michayel Lyon
The flaw is your nber-weak tank.
How so, and what would you suggest fitting instead then?
Sorry, I don't share my setups. Why give up your edge, eh?
Plus, I'm pretty sure it would just start a flame war...
So why are you posting here?
@topic: i'm not quite sure if void is a good choice on the guns. It will not work very effectively against small targets like frigs or some of the faster cruisers. And as some already stated your tank wont be very strong so messing with bigger targets will be hard too. I think any T2-cruiser or battlecruiser would rip you apart.
I'd stick to null and try to avoid pvp-fitted ships of bigger size.
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Michayel Lyon
Contention Inc
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Posted - 2006.09.30 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Djerin
Originally by: Michayel Lyon
Originally by: oreguy
Originally by: Michayel Lyon
The flaw is your nber-weak tank.
How so, and what would you suggest fitting instead then?
Sorry, I don't share my setups. Why give up your edge, eh?
Plus, I'm pretty sure it would just start a flame war...
So why are you posting here?
Oh sorry, I wasn't aware I wasn't allowed to post if I didn't share my own setups.
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