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Eran Mintor
Furtherance.
778
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Posted - 2015.02.06 03:01:10 -
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So many people mock Thera and I don't really see why. If it's not your taste then that's fine, but there's no need to try to make fun of others preferences or play-styles.
Thera is a wormhole system. Get over it. You can only get in or out with wormholes, I don't think the fact it's got 4 stations should distract you from that basic fact. For people who don't want to put up with the hassle of maintaining a POS and want the added benefit of having approximately 20 other connections to all types of space, then Thera is great. Whether an explorer or a PVPer there are plenty of options, and exits constantly change for new opportunities.
There are currently several groups who call Thera there base:
Furtherance. (shameless plug incoming) is a casual corp of explorers/PVPers who try to help bring content to Thera by stocking market, scouting exits, and roaming thru holes.
EvE-Scout is a collective of explorers that keep the wormhole connections updated and public for anyone to use.
Aquila is one of the PVP corps of Verge of Collapse, who also live here. They hang around Paleo mostly but also camp the holes and roam as well. If you see 200+ drones on a hi-sec hole it was probably one of them.
Bombers Bar is a community of PVPers who lead bomber/blops fleets from Thera and are quite successful.
Razor Alliance has some assets here and you can often see them flying assault frigate fleets in and around Thera connections.
There are many other groups I haven't named who live here, and others who roam through when a connection is near them. I would say the system is very much active.
You kind folks can hate on Thera all you want but it is what it is, and I'm tired of people acting like they're superior because they live in a C5/6 and insist they are the only "real" wormholers.
Cheers. |
Andrew Jester
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
926
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Posted - 2015.02.06 03:15:07 -
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muh elitism
If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
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Iyokus Patrouette
Sudden Buggery Prolapse.
280
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Posted - 2015.02.06 04:15:47 -
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Eran Mintor wrote:So many people mock Thera and I don't really see why. If it's not your taste then that's fine, but there's no need to try to make fun of others preferences or play-styles.
Thera is a wormhole system. Get over it. You can only get in or out with wormholes, I don't think the fact it's got 4 stations should distract you from that basic fact. For people who don't want to put up with the hassle of maintaining a POS and want the added benefit of having approximately 20 other connections to all types of space, then Thera is great. Whether an explorer or a PVPer there are plenty of options, and exits constantly change for new opportunities.
There are currently several groups who call Thera their base:
Furtherance. (shameless plug incoming) is a casual corp of explorers/PVPers who try to help bring content to Thera by stocking market, scouting exits, and roaming thru holes.
EvE-Scout is a collective of explorers that keep the wormhole connections updated and public for anyone to use.
Aquila is one of the PVP corps of Verge of Collapse, who also live here. They hang around Paleo mostly but also camp the holes and roam as well. If you see 200+ drones on a hi-sec hole it was probably one of them.
Bombers Bar is a community of PVPers who lead bomber/blops fleets from Thera and are quite successful.
Razor Alliance has some assets here and you can often see them flying assault frigate fleets in and around Thera connections.
There are many other groups I haven't named who live here, and others who roam through when a connection is near them. I would say the system is very much active.
You kind folks can hate on Thera all you want but it is what it is, and I'm tired of people acting like they're superior because they live in a C5/6 and insist they are the only "real" wormholers.
Cheers.
meow.
---- Advocate for the initiation of purple coloured wormholes----
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BayneNothos
United Electro-Magnetic Federation Business Alliance of Manufacturers and Miners
127
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Posted - 2015.02.06 05:32:00 -
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Eran Mintor wrote:So many people mock Thera and I don't really see why. If it's not your taste then that's fine, but there's no need to try to make fun of others preferences or play-styles.
Thera is a wormhole system. Get over it. You can only get in or out with wormholes, I don't think the fact it's got 4 stations should distract you from that basic fact. For people who don't want to put up with the hassle of maintaining a POS and want the added benefit of having approximately 20 other connections to all types of space, then Thera is great. Whether an explorer or a PVPer there are plenty of options, and exits constantly change for new opportunities.
There are currently several groups who call Thera their base:
Furtherance. (shameless plug incoming) is a casual corp of explorers/PVPers who try to help bring content to Thera by stocking market, scouting exits, and roaming thru holes.
EvE-Scout is a collective of explorers that keep the wormhole connections updated and public for anyone to use.
Aquila is one of the PVP corps of Verge of Collapse, who also live here. They hang around Paleo mostly but also camp the holes and roam as well. If you see 200+ drones on a hi-sec hole it was probably one of them.
Bombers Bar is a community of PVPers who lead bomber/blops fleets from Thera and are quite successful.
Razor Alliance has some assets here and you can often see them flying assault frigate fleets in and around Thera connections.
There are many other groups I haven't named who live here, and others who roam through when a connection is near them. I would say the system is very much active.
You kind folks can hate on Thera all you want but it is what it is, and I'm tired of people acting like they're superior because they live in a C5/6 and insist they are the only "real" wormholers.
Cheers.
TL:DR Thera is W Space because it has wormholes, the same way Nullsec is Highsec because it has Stargates. |
Jack Miton
Isogen 5
4116
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Posted - 2015.02.06 05:44:22 -
[35] - Quote
Eran Mintor wrote:So many people mock Thera and I don't really see why. If it's not your taste then that's fine, but there's no need to try to make fun of others preferences or play-styles.
Thera is a wormhole system. Get over it. You can only get in or out with wormholes, I don't think the fact it's got 4 stations should distract you from that basic fact. For people who don't want to put up with the hassle of maintaining a POS and want the added benefit of having approximately 20 other connections to all types of space, then Thera is great. Whether an explorer or a PVPer there are plenty of options, and exits constantly change for new opportunities.
There are currently several groups who call Thera their base:
Furtherance. (shameless plug incoming) is a casual corp of explorers/PVPers who try to help bring content to Thera by stocking market, scouting exits, and roaming thru holes.
EvE-Scout is a collective of explorers that keep the wormhole connections updated and public for anyone to use.
Aquila is one of the PVP corps of Verge of Collapse, who also live here. They hang around Paleo mostly but also camp the holes and roam as well. If you see 200+ drones on a hi-sec hole it was probably one of them.
Bombers Bar is a community of PVPers who lead bomber/blops fleets from Thera and are quite successful.
Razor Alliance has some assets here and you can often see them flying assault frigate fleets in and around Thera connections.
There are many other groups I haven't named who live here, and others who roam through when a connection is near them. I would say the system is very much active.
You kind folks can hate on Thera all you want but it is what it is, and I'm tired of people acting like they're superior because they live in a C5/6 and insist they are the only "real" wormholers.
Cheers. no one here cares if you do or do not like Thera or if you live in it or not. clearly it's going to appeal to some people and that's fine but calling it wspace is laughable for people who have lived in WHs for any stretch previously and know how they work.
it can be seen very clearly from the corps you listed as active there: they are ALL nullsec entities that, apart from your corp, are well known as being NS entities.
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Jayze Severasse
Offworld Trading Company Ethical Carnage
3
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Posted - 2015.02.06 05:53:17 -
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Since you need clarification...I noticed many Goon corp members in the NPC station I was in (20 or so), all from different Goon corps. I then broadcasted in local and a few channels. Suddenly 100 goons in station. Then they started pouring out. I undocked with them and warped out. I then asked if they saw me undock. They then asked me "Did you see our territorial claim units? " I saw two towers both belonging to a corp I thought was goon, guess I was wrong. More worried about getting decloaked to be honest.
So to summarize, goons at NPC pushing 100, and either Aquilla is renting? Or I was mistaken about it...at any rate 100 goons, and I guess also some "unaffiliated" russian corp.
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Kirasten
No Vacancies
126
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Posted - 2015.02.06 06:18:09 -
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I had this whole detailed message typed out and then it hit me, "This guy has to be a troll! No one can be posting this badly about impossible things or think that we care at all about goons or any other null sec alliance."
Well played Sir, you almost got me.
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Eran Mintor
Furtherance.
780
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Posted - 2015.02.06 07:06:13 -
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Jack Miton wrote:calling it wspace is laughable for people who have lived in WHs for any stretch previously and know how they work.
Care to elaborate on this? I'd be interested to listen.
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Utari Onzo
13. Enigma Project
127
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Posted - 2015.02.06 08:10:22 -
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This thread is going places
6/10
New York, Paris, Peckham, Jita
13. is recruiting
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Tung Yoggi
SnaiLs aNd FroGs
56
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Posted - 2015.02.06 10:11:59 -
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Jack Miton wrote: no one here cares if you do or do not like Thera or if you live in it or not. clearly it's going to appeal to some people and that's fine but calling it wspace is laughable for people who have lived in WHs for any stretch previously and know how they work.
it can be seen very clearly from the corps you listed as active there: they are ALL nullsec entities that, apart from your corp, are well known as being NS entities.
Don't you dare call Thera W-space ! Clearly all its inhabitants are nullsec dwellers (especially VoC -º-º-º), and on the other hand W-space never had any nullsec entities set foot in it, like Goonswarm, Red Alliance, Eve-Uni, Brave Newbies...
That was a collection of bad arguments, to defend an otherwise valid claim; Thera is probably some kind of "hybrid" space (as stated by CCP, the "5th" kind of space). To draw a terrible parralel i would say that Thera is w-space as much as a freighter is a capital ship. Discuss.
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Naraish Adarn
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
119
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Posted - 2015.02.06 10:38:21 -
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Tung Yoggi wrote:Jack Miton wrote: no one here cares if you do or do not like Thera or if you live in it or not. clearly it's going to appeal to some people and that's fine but calling it wspace is laughable for people who have lived in WHs for any stretch previously and know how they work.
it can be seen very clearly from the corps you listed as active there: they are ALL nullsec entities that, apart from your corp, are well known as being NS entities. Don't you dare call Thera W-space ! Clearly all its inhabitants are nullsec dwellers (especially VoC -º-º-º), and on the other hand W-space never had any nullsec entities set foot in it, like Goonswarm, Red Alliance, Eve-Uni, Brave Newbies... That was a collection of bad arguments, to defend an otherwise valid claim; Thera is probably some kind of "hybrid" space (as stated by CCP, the "5th" kind of space). To draw a terrible parralel i would say that Thera is w-space as much as a freighter is a capital ship. Discuss. umm you are aware that Eve-uni has WH campus and Brave newbies have a Wh wing called Dropbears anynomous right? |
Tung Yoggi
SnaiLs aNd FroGs
56
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Posted - 2015.02.06 11:30:10 -
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I thought the sarcasm was obvious. Next time I'll use emotes |
infra52x
University of Caille Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2015.02.06 12:59:05 -
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The DEVS say its a wormhole system.... Now everyone go stand in the corner.......
============================================================================================= Thera is a new and unique wormhole system that will be intimately tied to EVEGÇÖs developing storyline and will essentially represent a new 5th variant of space in New Eden.
Thera is a gigantic shattered wormhole system that contains four NPC stations and a large number of wormhole connections.
The four stations in Thera will each have a full set of services, including cloning, office slots, and manufacturing. You will be able to set these stations as your medical clone location, and install Jump Clones if you wish.
Thera has multiple static connections highsec, lowsec and nullsec space as well as access to wandering wormholes and K162 connections that can connect it to W-space. The result is a system that is much more connected to K-space than to W-space.
None of the connections to Thera will admit capital ships (freighters will be able to squeeze in), none of the stations in Thera will allow capitals to be built, and there are no moons for starbase anchoring. This means the system will only ever contain sub-capital vessels.
Thera is the largest system we have ever had in EVE. The stations are spread between three different planets at the edges of the system and warps between them can be up to 342 AU. The vast distances and huge number of wormholes ensures that keeping a lockdown on all of the stations and wormholes in the system will be exceedingly difficult, although we expect it to be an extremely dangerous place.
Anchored warp disruption bubbles will not be usable within Thera, although interdictor and heavy interdictor bubbles work normally.
Thera does not have a system bonus effect.
Thera contains wormhole signature and anomaly sites appropriate for class 3 and class 4 wormholes, as well as all the different types of wormhole gas mining sites on par with a class 6 wormhole system.
Thera does have distinct visuals including new unique station skins for the Sisters of EVE, a new nebula and a new sun effect.
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De ZuuuberrMan
Koa Mai Hoku The Kadeshi
5
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Posted - 2015.02.06 13:38:28 -
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Jack Miton wrote: no one here cares if you do or do not like Thera or if you live in it or not. clearly it's going to appeal to some people and that's fine but calling it wspace is laughable for people who have lived in WHs for any stretch previously and know how they work.
it can be seen very clearly from the corps you listed as active there: they are ALL nullsec entities that, apart from your corp, are well known as being NS entities.
K-space now belongs to Null. RIP dead wh community |
Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
19487
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Posted - 2015.02.06 16:16:32 -
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infra52x wrote:The DEVS say its a wormhole system.... Now everyone go stand in the corner....... If that corner involves standing with 90% of the wormhole community who don't care about Thera then I'll gladly stand there.
You and the Devs can have Thera and play WiS (wormholers in stations) to your heart's content.
=ƒÉÆ Bob Is Always Watching ...
"I been kicked out of better homes than this" - Rick James
Dusette SquadGäó endorses Corbexx for CSM X !
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scorchlikeshiswhiskey
Cirrius Technologies O X I D E
368
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Posted - 2015.02.06 18:41:08 -
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If station games aren't wormhole, I dont know what is! /sarcasm On a more serious note, I havent been in Thera and I see no reason to go to There. If I wanted station games and **** like that I would spend more time in k-space |
Korben Kurvora
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
22
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Posted - 2015.02.06 20:44:17 -
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Jack Miton wrote:it can be seen very clearly from the corps you listed as active there: they are ALL nullsec entities that, apart from your corp, are well known as being NS entities.
Jayze Severasse wrote: So to summarize, goons at NPC pushing 100, and either Aquilla is renting? Or I was mistaken about it...at any rate 100 goons, and I guess also some "unaffiliated" russian corp.
Wait, what?
This thread is going places. |
Jayze Severasse
Offworld Trading Company Ethical Carnage
3
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Posted - 2015.02.06 21:09:17 -
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De ZuuuberrMan wrote:Jack Miton wrote: no one here cares if you do or do not like Thera or if you live in it or not. clearly it's going to appeal to some people and that's fine but calling it wspace is laughable for people who have lived in WHs for any stretch previously and know how they work.
it can be seen very clearly from the corps you listed as active there: they are ALL nullsec entities that, apart from your corp, are well known as being NS entities.
K-space now belongs to Null. RIP dead wh community
Someone should start a side thread documenting WH skeleton crew evictions |
Jayze Severasse
Offworld Trading Company Ethical Carnage
3
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Posted - 2015.02.06 22:10:56 -
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Korben Kurvora wrote:Jack Miton wrote:it can be seen very clearly from the corps you listed as active there: they are ALL nullsec entities that, apart from your corp, are well known as being NS entities. Jayze Severasse wrote: So to summarize, goons at NPC pushing 100, and either Aquilla is renting? Or I was mistaken about it...at any rate 100 goons, and I guess also some "unaffiliated" russian corp.
Wait, what?
Sorry for misspelling your corp name |
Eran Mintor
Furtherance.
781
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Posted - 2015.02.07 04:49:05 -
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Candi LeMew wrote:infra52x wrote:The DEVS say its a wormhole system.... Now everyone go stand in the corner....... If that corner involves standing with 90% of the wormhole community who don't care about Thera then I'll gladly stand there. You and the Devs can have Thera and play WiS (wormholers in stations) to your heart's content.
Well if the only argument you have is that "I don't want to associate with those people cuz, ew." then I will gladly stand in the other corner. I don't see anyone coming to harm with this arrangement so I can only affirm this is a great idea. 90% of the wormhole community can stay in their wormholes. The 10% in Thera can go wherever the **** they want, including your wormholes (hi sleeper social club, why'd you close that wormhole so fast?).
Cheers. |
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Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
19591
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Posted - 2015.02.07 08:22:23 -
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Eran Mintor wrote:Well if the only argument you have is that "I don't want to associate with those people cuz, ew." then I will gladly stand in the other corner. I don't see anyone coming to harm with this arrangement so I can only affirm this is a great idea. 90% of the wormhole community can stay in their wormholes. The 10% in Thera can go wherever the **** they want, including your wormholes (hi sleeper social club, why'd you close that wormhole so fast?).
Cheers. Sounds good.
Now if only you ******* will stay out of our forums and stop trying to pass yourselves off as wormholers.
=ƒÉÆ Bob Is Always Watching ...
"I been kicked out of better homes than this" - Rick James
Dusette SquadGäó endorses Corbexx for CSM X !
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Eran Mintor
Furtherance.
782
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Posted - 2015.02.07 08:23:58 -
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You've got to be really bitter to call someone a **** over something as stupid as this. Anyways, I'll leave you in peace. Enjoy your solitude. |
Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
19591
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Posted - 2015.02.07 08:28:30 -
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Eran Mintor wrote:You've got to be really bitter to call someone a **** over something as stupid as this. Anyways, I'll leave you in peace. Enjoy your solitude. I'm not bitter, I'm just a ****.
=ƒÉÆ Bob Is Always Watching ...
"I been kicked out of better homes than this" - Rick James
Dusette SquadGäó endorses Corbexx for CSM X !
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Kellie Dusette
Nighthawk Exploration Anoikis Ronin
8407
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Posted - 2015.02.07 16:17:17 -
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Thera...
This a so silly.
Bigger sista visit on this Thera for one time, dock in a station, take picture.
Candi LeMew wrote:Eran Mintor wrote:You've got to be really bitter to call someone a **** over something as stupid as this. Anyways, I'll leave you in peace. Enjoy your solitude. I'm not bitter, I'm just a ****. You for make a very rude sometime.
Kellie no sure for make cringe or giggle, sometimes is a many much of both.
Collect all 3 Dusette Sets
(Now available in Thukker Tribe Edition)
Basic Edition | Catcember Edition | Forum Edition
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BayneNothos
United Electro-Magnetic Federation Business Alliance of Manufacturers and Miners
130
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Posted - 2015.02.08 14:51:46 -
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Candi LeMew wrote:Eran Mintor wrote:Well if the only argument you have is that "I don't want to associate with those people cuz, ew." then I will gladly stand in the other corner. I don't see anyone coming to harm with this arrangement so I can only affirm this is a great idea. 90% of the wormhole community can stay in their wormholes. The 10% in Thera can go wherever the **** they want, including your wormholes (hi sleeper social club, why'd you close that wormhole so fast?).
Cheers. Sounds good. Now if only you ******* will stay out of our forums and stop trying to pass yourselves off as wormholers.
https://imgur.com/2HsVY2C |
Kirasten
No Vacancies
126
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Posted - 2015.02.10 04:12:24 -
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I think the mistake here is people feeling that basing out of thera qualifies them as wormholers. There is nothing wrong with enjoying thera and there are a few wormholers that do, but basing out of thera doesn't make you a wormholer. The majority of the thera population is from k-space, not w-space. |
Eran Mintor
Furtherance.
786
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Posted - 2015.02.10 05:15:10 -
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Kirasten wrote:I think the mistake here is people feeling that basing out of thera qualifies them as wormholers. There is nothing wrong with enjoying thera and there are a few wormholers that do, but basing out of thera doesn't make you a wormholer. The majority of the thera population is from k-space, not w-space.
I would agree with that however there are also people who live in Thera and never/rarely use the stations, just like there are 'wormholers' who roam j-space and never put up a POS. Or is your definition of a 'wormholer' someone who anchors a POS in a specific wormhole and tries to claim it as their own? If so, then I would say the issue lies in people's differing definitions of the term.
I don't see why there being k-spacers in a system changes the way it's categorized. It's also a bit silly considering all those who live in wormhole systems were once k-space dwellers.
My only mode of transportation in or out of Thera are wormholes. That is why it is a 'wormhole' system. There are no other systems like that besides previously existing wormhole systems. K-space has stargates and wormholes; wormhole systems have no stargates. The lack of moons prevent anchoring POS, but that is the same with the other 100 shattered wormhole systems. Are people going to say that those shattered wormhole systems aren't real j-space and that people who operate in there aren't wormholers?
I admit it's silly to debate an insignificant topic so much, after-all people will label things however they want, but the arguments thus far and the flak I've received since moving to Thera seems to be more strange than this debate. |
M1k3y Koontz
Aether Ventures Surely You're Joking
649
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Posted - 2015.02.10 20:56:21 -
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Tung Yoggi wrote: Don't you dare call Thera W-space ! Clearly all its inhabitants are nullsec dwellers (especially VoC -º-º-º), and on the other hand W-space never had any nullsec entities set foot in it, like Goonswarm, Red Alliance, Eve-Uni, Brave Newbies...
...you're joking right? There's a whole heap of nullbears living it up in C4 and C5 holes to carebare and do nothing else.
Edit: further posts clarified the sarcasm.
Eran Mintor wrote: Well if the only argument you have is that "I don't want to associate with those people cuz, ew." then I will gladly stand in the other corner. I don't see anyone coming to harm with this arrangement so I can only affirm this is a great idea. 90% of the wormhole community can stay in their wormholes. The 10% in Thera can go wherever the **** they want, including your wormholes (hi sleeper social club, why'd you close that wormhole so fast?).
Cheers.
WH's, all the risk adversity of nullsec, all the elitism of nullsec.
How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp.
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Kirasten
No Vacancies
126
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Posted - 2015.02.11 03:57:53 -
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Eran Mintor wrote:Kirasten wrote:I think the mistake here is people feeling that basing out of thera qualifies them as wormholers. There is nothing wrong with enjoying thera and there are a few wormholers that do, but basing out of thera doesn't make you a wormholer. The majority of the thera population is from k-space, not w-space. I would agree with that however there are also people who live in Thera and never/rarely use the stations, just like there are 'wormholers' who roam j-space and never put up a POS. Or is your definition of a 'wormholer' someone who anchors a POS in a specific wormhole and tries to claim it as their own? If so, then I would say the issue lies in people's differing definitions of the term. I don't see why there being k-spacers in a system changes the way it's categorized. It's also a bit silly considering all those who live in wormhole systems were once k-space dwellers. My only mode of transportation in or out of Thera are wormholes. That is why it is a 'wormhole' system. There are no other systems like that besides previously existing wormhole systems. K-space has stargates and wormholes; wormhole systems have no stargates. The lack of moons prevent anchoring POS, but that is the same with the other 100 shattered wormhole systems. Are people going to say that those shattered wormhole systems aren't real j-space and that people who operate in there aren't wormholers? I admit it's silly to debate an insignificant topic so much, after-all people will label things however they want, but the arguments thus far and the flak I've received since moving to Thera seems to be more strange than this debate.
K-space has never been my home. I learned to play eve in a wormhole. I had to actually go back out to do the exploration missions to learn to scan.
I can only assume that my fellow wh residents are hesitant to call thera w-space because the playstyle is very different. It more closely resembles null sec minus local |
Drunein
Lockheed Nighthawk
189
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Posted - 2015.02.11 05:26:53 -
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Take null....
Now...
Ditch local, caps, and POCOs / POS's, and you have Thera. |
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