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Cauldron Borrn
INDUSTRIA BATTLETECH
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Posted - 2015.02.05 10:04:48 -
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Gday,
I am looking for a business model that will deliver a sustainable SRP, Perhaps kicking off at corp level that can transition to an alliance program.
Constructive advice it would be greatly appreciated.
Regards
CB
Faciendum Est Cuiusque Devotio Est Vis Industria Battletech.
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MEZZA Creire-Geng
TEC-NOLOGY
Sorry We're In Your Space Eh
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Posted - 2015.02.09 14:54:29 -
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suicide ganking freighters is a sustainable SRP (not something id promote) .. you seem to be lacking on providing any information whats your income how its generated and what kind of ships typically would need replacing.
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Han Chang
BOVRIL bOREers Mining CO-OP
Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.02.19 01:55:58 -
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Weekend ratting ops, donation rallies ala public radio. Corp pricing goals, i.e. When we hit 1 bil srp we will do x, when we hit 5 bil we will have ravens on srp etc.
Set corp tax to 100% and call your self a communist corp
Sell shares to corp members through auctions.
At the end of the day all you're talking about is how to get ISK in the Corp wallet and there are ten thousand ways to do that. |
Colonel Midnight
Booze Blues n' Tattoos
Arx Alliance
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Posted - 2015.04.07 06:44:50 -
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Fair question.
Well, we mine a lot of Veldspar. We convert it into tritanium. We sell it. We buy ships with the isk through the Ships channel and well placed buy orders which always tend to generate good deals.
As we run armor fleets, we therefore rat in areas where rats drop armor modules and appropriate hi slots. We deliver to the pilot a ship with non-t2 mods, meta 3 or 4 if the drop rate is high. Pilot insures the ship (or not). We don't care. You will get your ship and your t1 mods always. The insurance isk you get from your first death is yours to keep. If you wanna upgrade it to a t2 boat or use t2 mods, your choice, but those do not get covered (yet). All loot from pvp does not get sold, but gets dumped into corp wallet. Isk is used to buy more ships. All goodies the management collects, including me, dump that loot into the wallet for more ships. Or POS fuel, depends where the priorities lie.
However we only cover t1 stuff, up to cruiser. When we grow, we will expand into the t2 variants, again up to cruisers. I think small corps can cover this SRP easy. Even if we dont make isk from the tax or corp sales, I'm happy as long as all members get their toys.
As we do not have sov and dont aspire to acquiring it, we dont need to cover SRP for bigger boats. If by some formidable act we acquired a tech, dyspro or promethium moon, we would definitely upgrade the SRP.
I assume this is not the most efficient way to provide a SRP but you work with what you can acquire.
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Ka'Narlist
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.04.15 09:01:01 -
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Renting out some regions can pad your SRP Wallet really nice |
Amely Miles
Exiled Tech
Space Monkey Protectorate
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Posted - 2015.04.24 11:56:30 -
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suggest doing the following
Contact Nolen Cadmar and get a few Spreadsheets made you will need them
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=295315
5% Corp Tax
start with mining ops
20% Corp Cut of Jita
Buyback programs 10% of Jita
Ore
Mineral
PI
Salvage
(don't buy loot)
Ratting Ops
refine the crap loot use evepraisal.com to get estimated value buy the minerals and good loot split evenly to people ratting
all salvage goes for building of rigs
Crappy Moons and siphoning
followed by good moons
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Yes that is a Banana in my Pocket
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Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2015.04.24 13:08:33 -
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I mean the best thing to do is just offer as much SRP as you can afford with the income you have, and then badically tell the corp that the more cash you make the high the SRP goes.
Set up a public Google docs spreadsheet that pulls the Jita prices for your ship's hulls and modules. Use that as the "replacement cost". If it's T1 your members should be insuring the ship so take the platinum payment off that cost. The remaining cost is basically how much they will be out of pocket if they die.
You can pay back a percentage of that difference and make the percentage public, and be really transparent that the percentage will increase the more cash the corp/alliance makes.
As for actual income streams money moons and PI can be good "static" income (i.e stuff that just needs to be maintained rather than actually performed). PvE fleets for ratting will encourage people to shoot red crosses which you get to tax. Mining fleets combined with some industry could make you some money that way too.
There's a ton of ways you could make money, but by making it clear to members that the more they help the corp/alliance make money the better their SRP is then you will motivate them to take part in whatever money making plans you have.
"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
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Aequitae
Honestly We didnt know
Unsettled.
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Posted - 2015.05.14 11:48:58 -
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Cauldron Borrn wrote:Gday,
I am looking for a business model that will deliver a sustainable SRP, Perhaps kicking off at corp level that can transition to an alliance program.
Constructive advice it would be greatly appreciated.
Regards
CB
It fully depends on where you're living, what you do and on your income.
In wormhole space it isn't common to have SRP, except when there's a chronic lack of logistics pilots.
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:I mean the best thing to do is just offer as much SRP as you can afford with the income you have, and then badically tell the corp that the more cash you make the high the SRP goes.
I disagree.
The point of SRP is to reimburse people with larger losses during a serious fight. If you would pay out for all the T1 ships that people lose, and can regain within doing 1-2 combat sites, you would get to the point where the fund dries up before those with critical roles like logistics or heavy interdictors, will be unable to get their ships refunded.
Your ideal goal is to lay a bottom line on when you do SRP, and if so, for how much. Most groups I've flown with only use SRP in official fleet operations, and then they only replace the hull while arguing that the fitting should be covered by the insurance on the ship. In wormhole space, I don't do SRP except when I am in high need of people flying Guardians or other logistic ships. You make enough money to warrant the lack of SRP, and due to that taxes and costs are lower for everyone. |
Gian Bal
DBD RELOADED
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2015.05.26 16:39:59 -
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Well if you send me all of your isk I will triple it for you and that should keep your SRP running for a little while...
Litterally God
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Conflict Engaged
Renegade Collective
Mad Associates
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Posted - 2015.06.10 21:45:10 -
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If you have a good industrial backbone, look to having your doctrines built, then sell your ships at it's approx market price and then add 1 mil to the cost. Then, when the ship potentially explodes, refund all of their ISK except that 1 mil you added. You make a bit of ISK in the process, which can go on for other funds or potentially to invest in a better SRP model, such as R64 goo. |
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