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testprix	Posted - 2006.10.01 20:16:00 - [1] All is in the subject... any news about the Bc tiers 2 we will get in next patch ? anyone have confirmed stats ? thanks :)
Verus Potestas Caldari Fiat Mort	Posted - 2006.10.01 20:24:00 - [2] Nothing confirmed, apart from the fact that they will be more damage oriented. Names have been mentioned, though those are not confirmed: Drake Myrmidon Hurricane Betrayal (this one is the least definite: Tux has expressed concern the name is too Khanid for an Amarr T1 ship) No confirmed stats or bonuses. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.10.01 20:24:00 - [3] Nope, no stats exist... we got a hold of some pre-stats a few months back though, but they will have changed alot since then probably. Basicly the caldari is a mini navy raven, the gallente is a mini dominix, the minnie is a mini tempest and the amarr is a mini armageddon. :) --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
lofty29 Gallente Praxiteles Inc.	Posted - 2006.10.01 20:25:00 - [4] Edited by: lofty29 on 01/10/2006 20:25:23 I want my myrmidon! --------------------------- I pwnz0r your sig, muahaha - Tirg Noes i got beat by a girl >.< - Xorus
MECTO	Posted - 2006.10.01 20:26:00 - [5] donnow bout the stats buut i think something like this: drake: 5% to rof, 10% to velocity [donnow how much missles u can fit] myrmidon: 5% to dmg hybrid, 10% to drone damage [and gimped grid too] betrayal: 5% to rof, 10% less cap for med guns duct tape: 5% to dmg, 5% rof or 5% to dmg 5% to speed? or TP bonus but don't think so
Benjamin Olson	Posted - 2006.10.01 20:29:00 - [6] If amarr get an ROF bonus and a Cap reduction bonus ill shoot my foot off. Maybe ROF and Damage? But I hate the cap bonus and ROF. I hate ROF actually. Damage Bonus ftw.
MECTO	Posted - 2006.10.01 20:36:00 - [7] Edited by: MECTO on 01/10/2006 20:36:05 Originally by: Benjamin Olson If amarr get an ROF bonus and a Cap reduction bonus ill shoot my foot off. Maybe ROF and Damage? But I hate the cap bonus and ROF. I hate ROF actually. Damage Bonus ftw. tier2 bc must endure same bonuses like theyr bs or crus counterparts just, so then amarr gots rof and dmg bonuses
Mar vel Caldari Lynx Frontier Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.01 20:45:00 - [8] I was pretty disappointed with the Caldari T2 BC's. Look great on paper, but not so fantastic in application. First scenario (small teams and fleets) - oh, look, it's a command ship (insta-primary / glory kill). Pop. Second scenario (PvP / Solo) - oh, look, it's a caldari command ship (hehe) EW/NOS/Drones 4TW. Pop. Pretty sad IMO. Most important, however, how does CCP envision integrating Wing Commander / Fleet Commander roles into this platform - because this is a VERY significant aspect of the combat focus of this ship (and game) going forward). How will command ship (FC) pilots exploit the VAST investment in skills for this ship to their teammate's advantage without being 3-2-1 and out in the first engagement?
Verus Potestas Caldari Fiat Mort	Posted - 2006.10.01 20:57:00 - [9] Originally by: MECTO Originally by: Benjamin Olson If amarr get an ROF bonus and a Cap reduction bonus ill shoot my foot off. Maybe ROF and Damage? But I hate the cap bonus and ROF. I hate ROF actually. Damage Bonus ftw. tier2 bc must endure same bonuses like theyr bs or crus counterparts, so then amarr gots rof and dmg bonuses All the current BCs are tank focussed. Next batch are damage focussed. That means Omen or Geddon model of bonuses RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy
Verus Potestas Caldari Fiat Mort	Posted - 2006.10.01 20:58:00 - [10] Originally by: Mar vel I was pretty disappointed with the Caldari T2 BC's. Look great on paper, but not so fantastic in application. First scenario (small teams and fleets) - oh, look, it's a command ship (insta-primary / glory kill). Pop. Second scenario (PvP / Solo) - oh, look, it's a caldari command ship (hehe) EW/NOS/Drones 4TW. Pop. Pretty sad IMO. Most important, however, how does CCP envision integrating Wing Commander / Fleet Commander roles into this platform - because this is a VERY significant aspect of the combat focus of this ship (and game) going forward). How will command ship (FC) pilots exploit the VAST investment in skills for this ship to their teammate's advantage without being 3-2-1 and out in the first engagement? Tier2. Nothing to do with T2, at least yet. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy

MECTO	Posted - 2006.10.02 06:02:00 - [11] Originally by: Mar vel I was pretty disappointed with the Caldari T2 BC's. Look great on paper, but not so fantastic in application. First scenario (small teams and fleets) - oh, look, it's a command ship (insta-primary / glory kill). Pop. Second scenario (PvP / Solo) - oh, look, it's a caldari command ship (hehe) EW/NOS/Drones 4TW. Pop. Pretty sad IMO. don't think so, with new assault missiles and 7 hardpoints [pre-kali] or just heavy precision - it will be very painful
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2006.10.02 06:11:00 - [12] Originally by: Benjamin Olson If amarr get an ROF bonus and a Cap reduction bonus ill shoot my foot off. Maybe ROF and Damage? But I hate the cap bonus and ROF. I hate ROF actually. Damage Bonus ftw. What the heck are you smoking ? DPS-wise, 5% ROF bonus is better as 5% damage bonus ! At L5, you get -25% ROF which means +33% DPS, instead of the +25% DPS you get from +25% damage mod. Or you are really, really just only interested in alpha-strike / sniping scenarios, and couldn't care less about DPS ? __ Always question everything. Including yourself.
Nicocat Caldari New Age Solutions	Posted - 2006.10.02 15:53:00 - [13] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Benjamin Olson If amarr get an ROF bonus and a Cap reduction bonus ill shoot my foot off. Maybe ROF and Damage? But I hate the cap bonus and ROF. I hate ROF actually. Damage Bonus ftw. What the heck are you smoking ? DPS-wise, 5% ROF bonus is better as 5% damage bonus ! At L5, you get -25% ROF which means +33% DPS, instead of the +25% DPS you get from +25% damage mod. Or you are really, really just only interested in alpha-strike / sniping scenarios, and couldn't care less about DPS ? ROF bonuses and the highest cap-using weapon in the game don't mix very well. ---------------------------- Remember, killing a Goon isn't murder. They don't have souls.
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation	Posted - 2006.10.02 16:07:00 - [14] They're actually pretty even in cap usage with hybrids, especially if you take into account the Caldari or Gallente capacitors. In either case, the capacitor use bonus is a signature bonus for Amarr. Without it the lasers would actually take the most capacitor of all weapons. But maybe that'd be a good thing? Remove all capacitor use bonuses from Amarr ships and add in damage bonuses or armour bonuses - naturally without tampering with the capacitor use. I know some ships would run into some serious capacitor problems, though. I still remember what the problem was with Amarr back in 2003 and 2004, and I know what changes were done to make Amarr the most powerful race in game (during 2004). - Three years old
Hydrian Alante The Loot Company	Posted - 2006.10.02 16:20:00 - [15] Except the Betrayal they all seem to be great PvP Ships. Can¦t wait to hop in. Myrmidon and Drake are surely some great lvl III mission runners too.
ARMORINE	Posted - 2006.10.02 18:12:00 - [16] give me my betrayal! i want my great golden goddess rawr! ahahahkaufpisudfh;soidfs;oafijsad;foijds;ofij just fyi i love the look of the new bc's i plan on getting them all....why not? i can already fly them all


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