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Aoki Ayumi
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.01 10:38:00 -
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Price in 450m and downing
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Jarnis McPieksu
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.01 10:57:00 -
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Normal.
Speculators speculated that there would be a re-sub spike for Crucible.
There was one, tho it was mostly during the weeks leading up to the release. That led to expensive PLEX. Crucible is out, demand is dropping and speculators are dumping their stock while it is still profitable to do so. The slide will continue until a new equilibrium is reached.
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
210
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Posted - 2011.12.01 11:01:00 -
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Aoki Ayumi wrote:Price in 450m and downing
No |
Kaivar Lancer
General Exports
3
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Posted - 2011.12.01 11:14:00 -
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Prices were below 430m in Jita just before shutdown. Retracement or the start of a new trend?  |
Tasko Pal
Spallated Garniferous Schist
16
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Posted - 2011.12.01 11:22:00 -
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It's also worth noting that some people may be selling PLEX for shinies or investment capital. The price is right(er).
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Julian Koll
The Kollektive
1
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Posted - 2011.12.01 11:25:00 -
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It's also worth noting that with Hours for PLEX currently disabled you can't resubb using PLEX... |
Raven Ether
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.01 12:02:00 -
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Why was is disabled? ^
Also: SELL MOAR PLEX SELL SELL SELL NOW IS THE TIME! |
Arana Mirelin
Te'Rava Industries
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Posted - 2011.12.01 14:28:00 -
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Also interesting that it coincides with the end of the Power of 2 promotion as well... |
Kara Books
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.02 04:12:00 -
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350-360 questions? |
Zions Child
Odyssey Inc
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.02 04:47:00 -
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Kara Books wrote:350-360 questions?
I would be rather surprised if it hit that sometime soon. Never know though, certainly has moved around a bit in the past month. |
Kara Books
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
11
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Posted - 2011.12.02 04:58:00 -
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Zions Child wrote:Kara Books wrote:350-360 questions? I would be rather surprised if it hit that sometime soon. Never know though, certainly has moved around a bit in the past month.
that's what I expect to see, but you never know which way it could go. |
EvilCheez
MisUnderestimated
1
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Posted - 2011.12.02 04:59:00 -
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1Billion before 390
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Nova Kierra
State Protectorate
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.02 05:54:00 -
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429 mil in Jita right now. It might stay like that for the days to come. There are over 300 buy orders at the price of 415 - 419 million. |
Fleshbot
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.12.02 06:42:00 -
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Nova Kierra wrote:429 mil in Jita right now. It might stay like that for the days to come. There are over 300 buy orders at the price of 415 - 419 million.
But how many of those are margin buyers with no cash just holding the price up? |
Kara Books
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
11
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Posted - 2011.12.02 07:14:00 -
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Fleshbot wrote:Nova Kierra wrote:429 mil in Jita right now. It might stay like that for the days to come. There are over 300 buy orders at the price of 415 - 419 million. But how many of those are margin buyers with no cash just holding the price up?
those 50's and 60's movin back and fro all day long...
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Florestan Bronstein
The Waterworks
194
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Posted - 2011.12.02 13:34:00 -
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new plex promotion:
euro version:
1 PLEX for 17.99Gé¼ instead of 19.99Gé¼
(17.99Gé¼/PLEX)
6 PLEX for 99.99Gé¼ instead of 104.97Gé¼
(16.67Gé¼/PLEX)
30 PLEX for 449.99Gé¼
(15Gé¼/PLEX)
http://i.imgur.com/ml0Jd.png
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0Lona 0ltor
Red Sky Morning
BricK sQuAD.
2
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Posted - 2011.12.02 15:09:00 -
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Just bought contract Plex for 400 mill.
In numerous stations 10 plex for sale from the CCP bundle. |
Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
202
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Posted - 2011.12.02 16:21:00 -
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0Lona 0ltor wrote:Just bought contract Plex
But why would you do that?
I live, I post, I slay. I am content.
Alpha Flight --á an open-source initiative for newbies looking for PVP. Join channel ''Alpha Flight'' in game
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=40104 |
0Lona 0ltor
Red Sky Morning
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.12.02 16:53:00 -
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It was much cheaper than the market. maybe the guy who had bought 10 plex was scared of the market? Or he wanted to make sure every region was aware that his PLEX was cheapest in EVE. |
Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
203
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Posted - 2011.12.02 17:41:00 -
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Check your hangar, maybe you bought a Plex but contracted two to the guy
I live, I post, I slay. I am content.
Alpha Flight --á an open-source initiative for newbies looking for PVP. Join channel ''Alpha Flight'' in game
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=40104 |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
480
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Posted - 2011.12.02 18:12:00 -
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EvilCheez wrote:1Billion before 390
EXTREMELY doubtful.
We might get to 390 (or very close to it) within the next week or two, but I doubt we'd be getting even as high as 750 in the next year.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Contributor_name:Akita_T#Contributions_link_collection |
A Little Girl
91
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Posted - 2011.12.02 19:26:00 -
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No! Please make PLEX back to under 350m! Think of the children! Especially the ones where mom doesn't give credit cards! Also hi MD guess who is back! |
Eleonora Skye
Sushi Corp
0
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Posted - 2011.12.02 19:37:00 -
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Already laughing about the guy who set 3 x 50 BO at 415M 2 weeks ago at Jita...big surprise coming for him. |
Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
Pleasure Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.12.02 20:37:00 -
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Eleonora Skye wrote:Already laughing about the guy who set 3 x 50 BO at 415M 2 weeks ago at Jita...big surprise coming for him.
Yes thats pretty funny.. It's like putting a buy order @ $50 for 1m shares or Lehman in early 2008 and taking a year vacation. Or maybe I shouldn't be joking. Maybe someone got hit by a bus? If not they are about to anyway! |
Kara Books
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
11
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Posted - 2011.12.03 08:02:00 -
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he was moving them around back and fro... but today I actually saw his 63 order get hit down to 42 or something like that.
I guess he wasnt fast enough to move it out the way. |
Victor Valka
Endoxa Corporation
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Posted - 2011.12.03 09:44:00 -
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Any thoughts on how CCP's current PLEX sale will affect the prices, if at all?
It doesn't seem like a much of a discount -- 2.50 euros off if you buy one -- but it could increase the supply and knock prcies down some more.
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Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
452
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Posted - 2011.12.03 10:03:00 -
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It is free fall time... don't miss the train.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.12.03 13:23:00 -
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The only question is how long to wait until major scoopage time :)
Think it will bottom out at 350 ? 320 ? Less ?
I guess they will probably stabilize at around 380 or so in a month tops, so whoever the lucky bastard to grab'em at the bottom is, he could make a fortune in a few short days flipping them.
Unless somebody starts grabbing them en-masse earlier, in which case... eh.
This is the best game of reverse chicken ever 
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Contributor_name:Akita_T#Contributions_link_collection |
OllieNorth
Recidivists Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.12.03 15:56:00 -
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I actually almost bought a couple PLEX recently to fund some new endeavors, glad I procrastinated. Hell, this keeps up and even I might be able to afford to enter the PLEXspeculation market. |
Kaivar Lancer
General Exports
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Posted - 2011.12.03 18:46:00 -
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Just confirming that prices are now hitting 400m in Heimatar.
Down, down, prices are down... |
Wog Cyllen
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.03 21:05:00 -
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Panic now! |
Selene D'Celeste
The D'Celeste Trading Company
ISK Six
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Posted - 2011.12.04 05:09:00 -
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Wog Cyllen wrote:Panic now!
Fire in the disco.
Visit www.eohpoker.com and enjoy EVE's oldest ISK gaming service! |
Illectroculus Defined
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.04 06:16:00 -
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Selene D'Celeste wrote:Wog Cyllen wrote:Panic now! Fire in the disco.
Fire in the Taco Bell |
Soldarius
Peek-A-Boo Bombers
85
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Posted - 2011.12.05 05:30:00 -
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Burn that summunabastich down!
My trade alt just took a bath, so I'm partying like I don't care!
"How do you kill that which has no life?" |
Shizuken
Venerated Stars
1
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Posted - 2011.12.05 08:27:00 -
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Eleonora Skye wrote:Already laughing about the guy who set 3 x 50 BO at 415M 2 weeks ago at Jita...big surprise coming for him.
No kidding lol
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Missette
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.05 16:02:00 -
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Eleonora Skye wrote:Already laughing about the guy who set 3 x 50 BO at 415M 2 weeks ago at Jita...big surprise coming for him.
Sorry to be dense, I've been playing this game for years now, and reading this forum for a year at least, but this is greek to me. Anyone want to translate so I can get whats funny? |
Max Flipper
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2011.12.05 16:18:00 -
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Missette wrote:Eleonora Skye wrote:Already laughing about the guy who set 3 x 50 BO at 415M 2 weeks ago at Jita...big surprise coming for him. Sorry to be dense, I've been playing this game for years now, and reading this forum for a year at least, but this is greek to me. Anyone want to translate so I can get whats funny?
He placed a (back then low) Buy order for a lot of plexes, because of the market shift his price is now going from underpriced to overpriced.
Assuming the price will stabilize below 400M as many people think it will this means he will loose at least 2B isk. (If he sells at that price.)
If thats fun or not is another thing :D
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Twisted Ideals
ZERO T0LERANCE
RAZOR Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.12.05 16:49:00 -
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plex seems to be going up again.
bought one yesterday for 400 (highest buy order) now its up to 406
hoped they would go down to 350 |
Rasz Lin
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Posted - 2011.12.06 03:18:00 -
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I hate you forum, was going to buy out Dodixie yesterday when it hit 400mil, but started reading this thread ... and 2 hours later Jita was back at 420, now 432 :/ |
Rasz Lin
6
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Posted - 2011.12.06 03:18:00 -
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, |
Rhastafan
Cadre Assault Force
Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2011.12.06 05:28:00 -
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Looks like forming a bottom and heading back up; I got 2 at 390 is the lowest buy I have, before that I got 1 at 410 on the way down and I just got 2 at 405.
So it can hold and start climbing back up or the support at 400 can fail and it can start crashing again.
Looking at the history it seems support has only failed to maintain once in the last year (it held at about 335 but failed and the price went down to 320 before heading back up), so based on that I would expect it not to go down from here.
Then again the one time support did fail to maintain was last January; given that the recent upwards move was steeper and longer than normal and we are approaching January it will be interesting to see if history repeats itself.
My call is that even if the current support fails it will get more support at 380 and not go below that. 360 looks possible as a bottom but I am sticking with 380 as my low. |
Rhastafan
Cadre Assault Force
Initiative Mercenaries
7
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Posted - 2011.12.06 05:33:00 -
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Rasz Lin wrote:I hate you forum, was going to buy out Dodixie yesterday when it hit 400mil, but started reading this thread ... and 2 hours later Jita was back at 420, now 432 :/
Hmm, why would you buy from sell orders? My above calls are based on buy order prices that are getting filled which is how I evaluate commodity prices. |
Sobach
Fourth Circle
Total Comfort
0
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Posted - 2011.12.06 07:44:00 -
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Rhastafan wrote:Rasz Lin wrote:I hate you forum, was going to buy out Dodixie yesterday when it hit 400mil, but started reading this thread ... and 2 hours later Jita was back at 420, now 432 :/ Hmm, why would you buy from sell orders? My above calls are based on buy order prices that are getting filled which is how I evaluate commodity prices.
Probably because he didn't want to babysit his buy order, which does get annoying fast, esp. in places like Jita |
Sator Nyatt
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2011.12.07 06:08:00 -
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So, to put forward some speculation:
Is the current movement in plex (rapid succession of peaks in 6 months) a function of a market that has too much money and not enough supply, leading to hire prices, or is it a function of a small number of cashed up speculators pushign the price up quickly?
There is an argument for both - Incursions increasing the amount of isk in the general populace combined with a generic dissatisfaction with CCP making more people cancel real money subscriptions and switch to plex, and less people spending money to buy isk. CCP and illegal isk websites would be able to provide data on real money -> isk conversion rates, but that's unlikely to happen.
Personally, i discount the argument that people were resubbing ahead of crucible, as the trend is pretty consistent for 6 months with speculation, small sell off, speculation, sell off, speculation and then a correction.
What I think is a more likely scenario is a small amount of people (it would have to be small, not alliance level, or people would be bragging about it) with a lot of isk deciding to ramp the market up, with smaller speculators getting on the bandwagon. Then, at a peak, around crucible (good as so many people will be distracted, along with popularity up and new accounts) start dumping. Other speculators see the trend and panic dump too.
Market drops a good 20%, maybe more, and then the original speculators enter the market again with some pretty big buy orders on the market. Like that 100+ 50 billion buy order sitting in jita, along with orders for 50.
The 'lone' speculator or small group of speculators would make sense given some reports of individual trades in the EU TZ driving markets up overnight. |
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