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Silver Lady Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2006.10.02 10:22:00 - [1] Edited by: Silver Lady on 02/10/2006 10:26:37 In the dev blog by clover, it says this.. Finally, you need the racial Encryption skills to use the Data Interfaces. These skills are already in the game, but currently are associated with pirate factions (i.e. Angel Encryption Methods). Once Revelations hits the street these skills will be associated with the empires instead (so Angel Encryption Methods becomes Minmatar Encryption Methods). This does not affect those that already have the skill. ... We can see that angel encryption methods and the others will change to minmatar encryption methods etc, but it then says that this does not effect those that already have the skill, what does that mean? It looks like it may mean that if you already have the skill trained then it wont change to minmatar encryption methods, etc. These skills are very expensive and i dont want to have purchased and trained them only for kali to hit and find out my angel encryption skill did not change to minmatar encryption and i've now got a useless skill trained that cost me 400 million isk. I know other people want to know aswell, could you clear this up? A simple way of putting it is, if i have trained angel encryptions before kali, when kali hits, will my trained angel encryptions skill change to minmatar encryptions meaning that i already have minmatar encryptions trained and wont need to train it again?
Silver Lady Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2006.10.02 10:33:00 - [2] Come on thread, dont die. Does anyone else think they might know the answer to this?
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.10.02 10:47:00 - [3] Why dont the devs reply within 11 minutes? They suck. :) --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Silver Lady Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2006.10.02 10:54:00 - [4] Edited by: Silver Lady on 02/10/2006 10:55:16 Originally by: Jim McGregor Why dont the devs reply within 11 minutes? They suck. :) Well, a lot of people are getting these rare skills and selling them for a fortune to other players, sometimes over 400 mill per skill, theres going to be a lot of upset players, including me, if when kali hits my encryption skills are useless and i have to buy them all over again, not to mention the couple billion i blew on buying the various now-uselss encryption skills in the first place.
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.10.02 10:56:00 - [5] Yep, you got a good point. I think Wrangler will make this thread tingle soon... hopefully. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2006.10.02 10:56:00 - [6] The way I read it they are just renaming the skills. This makes most sense. ----- Russell T Davies is my master now.
Mal Hondo THeOThErs Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.02 10:57:00 - [7] I'd say that the studied skills must change to its faction equivalent. Reason? Only those that have trained the angel, gurista etc skills prior to Kali will be able to build COSMOS items. And that doesnt make sense. I think personally that the skill requirements for COSMOS items will change along with any trained COSMOS skills. Buy, meh, who am I? I don't even have a face! Dev confirmation is required. Thankyouplease. (like borat says) Hate something. Change something. Hate something, change something - make something better! Da doo be doo bi doo bi doo bi dooooooo!
Silver Lady Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2006.10.02 10:58:00 - [8] Originally by: Adonis 4174 The way I read it they are just renaming the skills. This makes most sense. That is the way i read it at first also, however after reading it again, i noticed more the bit at the end where it says "angel encryption methods will become minmatar encryption methods - this does not effect those who already have the skill" - That sounds to me like all encryption skills that existed before kali will not be renamed and will just become useless skills, much like mobile refinery operation.
Ydyp Ieva Caldari Romarrian Empire Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.02 11:00:00 - [9] When I readed the blog I came to the conclusion that they are just renaming those encryption skills, like from angel encryption to minmatar encryption. And if you have the skill trained already you don't have to worry sinse they will just rename it and keep the levels trained, nothing more and nothing less.
Tommy TenKreds Animal Mercantile Executive	Posted - 2006.10.02 11:03:00 - [10] Yeah clarification would be good but they may not have finalised the plan yet so be patient.
Silver Lady Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2006.10.02 11:34:00 - [11] Originally by: Ydyp Ieva When I readed the blog I came to the conclusion that they are just renaming those encryption skills, like from angel encryption to minmatar encryption. And if you have the skill trained already you don't have to worry sinse they will just rename it and keep the levels trained, nothing more and nothing less. That's what i thought to, till i really noticed the bit where it says "this does not effect those who already have the skill" So does that mean those that the skill wont be renamed for those that already have it? Making the current encryption skills completely useless.
Lord WarATron Amarr Out Siders Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.02 11:39:00 - [12] Originally by: Silver Lady Originally by: Ydyp Ieva When I readed the blog I came to the conclusion that they are just renaming those encryption skills, like from angel encryption to minmatar encryption. And if you have the skill trained already you don't have to worry sinse they will just rename it and keep the levels trained, nothing more and nothing less. That's what i thought to, till i really noticed the bit where it says "this does not effect those who already have the skill" So does that mean those that the skill wont be renamed for those that already have it? Making the current encryption skills completely useless. Hmm Firstly there are 2 issues. 1. COSMOS items requiring NPC Faction skills (e.g Angel Encryption methods) 2. Invention skills requiring Player Faction skills (e.g Minmatar Encryption methods) Now if invention requires Player Faction skills - I would be asking if these skills will be seeded on the market? The Secon issue is what is going to happen to the COSMOS Skillbooks? --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE
Silver Lady Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2006.10.02 14:11:00 - [13] Please dont let this thread go unanswered :(

Oveur	Posted - 2006.10.02 14:24:00 - [14] It's the same skill, which just gets a new name which is more future proof and prevents us from having to create new skills which both are doing the same. So if you have the skill today, you can do everything you could do before - it's only the name that changes. Senior Producer EVE Online

Silver Lady Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2006.10.02 14:30:00 - [15] Originally by: Oveur It's the same skill, which just gets a new name which is more future proof and prevents us from having to create new skills which both are doing the same. So if you have the skill today, you can do everything you could do before - it's only the name that changes. Ok thanks, so this means my trained angel encryptions skill that i have right now will allow me to use minmatar data interfaces when kali hits?

Oveur	Posted - 2006.10.02 14:31:00 - [16] Originally by: Silver Lady Originally by: Oveur It's the same skill, which just gets a new name which is more future proof and prevents us from having to create new skills which both are doing the same. So if you have the skill today, you can do everything you could do before - it's only the name that changes. Ok thanks, so this means my trained angel encryptions skill that i have right now will allow me to use minmatar data interfaces when kali hits? Yes, that is the whole point. Senior Producer EVE Online

Silver Lady Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2006.10.02 14:32:00 - [17] Originally by: Oveur Originally by: Silver Lady Originally by: Oveur It's the same skill, which just gets a new name which is more future proof and prevents us from having to create new skills which both are doing the same. So if you have the skill today, you can do everything you could do before - it's only the name that changes. Ok thanks, so this means my trained angel encryptions skill that i have right now will allow me to use minmatar data interfaces when kali hits? Yes, that is the whole point. Thank you for clearing this up, glad your doing it this way, thats the news i wanted to hear.
Rina Shanu Phoenix Knights	Posted - 2006.10.02 14:33:00 - [18] Originally by: Oveur It's the same skill, which just gets a new name which is more future proof and prevents us from having to create new skills which both are doing the same. So if you have the skill today, you can do everything you could do before - it's only the name that changes. Yeyyyyy !!! Oh, why? well... 1st because I quoted Oveur and 2nd because it's the most logical turn of the situation and people do not loose 400 mil. So yeyyy my sig sucks
Seldon Corran Caldari Camelot Innovations	Posted - 2006.10.06 18:21:00 - [19] But will these Encryption Books be seeded in Kali or not? At the moment people are selling them for outragious prices and before I even consider buying any I'd like to know if these books will be on the market in Kali. Seems odd they wouldnt be if they are going to be Caldari Encryption and the like.. would assume such books would be readily available and not just available from Pirate drops.
ToxicFire Warlords Corp The Core Collective	Posted - 2006.10.06 18:33:00 - [20] Edited by: ToxicFire on 06/10/2006 18:34:27 Originally by: Seldon Corran But will these Encryption Books be seeded in Kali or not? At the moment people are selling them for outragious prices and before I even consider buying any I'd like to know if these books will be on the market in Kali. Seems odd they wouldnt be if they are going to be Caldari Encryption and the like.. would assume such books would be readily available and not just available from Pirate drops. 300mil isn't outragious for their current rarity and Im gonna go out on a limb and guess they'll be kept that rare to prevent the T2 market nose diving the moment kali goes live. Plus announcing wether they're going to be seeded is very unlikely as it would alter the economy in bad bad ways Join the save Stargate SG1 Campaign Today! http://savestargatesg1.com/
Seldon Corran Caldari Camelot Innovations	Posted - 2006.10.06 18:44:00 - [21] I've seen them going for 500 or so lately, which in my opinion is outragious Anyway, no one seems to have asked the question, that I have seen, so I thought I would. Wether I get an answer is another matter entirely
Mack Dorgeans Camelot Innovations	Posted - 2006.10.06 18:44:00 - [22] Um, not saying whether or not they will be NPC market seeded in Kali has ALREADY altered the market in a bad way. The encryption books at best were in the mid 100 mil range before, now they're up around 300-400 mil? They radically increased demand overnight without any word whether supply will increase or not.
Hehulk FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.06 19:16:00 - [23] I'm fairly sure I remeber reading in a blog that they would be seeded. There was mass whinging about it. ---------- Please choose one signature image, as per the forum rules. - Teblin
Fedaykin Naib 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.10.06 19:19:00 - [24] Edited by: Fedaykin Naib on 06/10/2006 19:19:51 sorry. "Long Live the Fighters!"
Jowen Datloran Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2006.10.06 19:55:00 - [25] Originally by: Hehulk I'm fairly sure I remeber reading in a blog that they would be seeded. There was mass whinging about it. Good rumor. Keep it going. ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute
Seldon Corran Caldari Camelot Innovations	Posted - 2006.10.06 20:00:00 - [26] Let's not turn this into a flame fight, I would like an answer from a Dev not a lock from a Moderator.
turnschuh Eye of God	Posted - 2006.10.06 20:01:00 - [27] Originally by: Seldon Corran Let's not turn this into a flame fight, I would like an answer from a Dev not a lock from a Moderator. you only get them as a package :)
Silver Lady Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2006.10.06 21:32:00 - [28] Originally by: Hehulk I'm fairly sure I remeber reading in a blog that they would be seeded. There was mass whinging about it. This is a flat out lie, it was first mentioned in the invention dev blog sticked at the top of this page. There has been no dev confirmation as of yet.
ToxicFire Warlords Corp The Core Collective	Posted - 2006.10.06 22:37:00 - [29] As stated in other threads now the encrption skills will only drop from the cosmos sites and the new profession sites they will not be seeded, the only skill been seeded to do with invention will be the base invention skill itself Join the save Stargate SG1 Campaign Today! http://savestargatesg1.com/
xlop Gallente	Posted - 2006.10.06 22:45:00 - [30] well you can buy a skill for 500mil isk right now to find out that it is for sale by npcs for 50k isk in a months time or you can wait and spend 600mil after kali if the skill is not npc seeded [which will also give you the option to see if the isk is worth the skill at all] could just end up being a +1% to chance of getting a t2 bpc per lvl -- Imperial College London FTW --

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