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Athren Soulsteal
Gallente Orion Faction
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Posted - 2006.10.02 18:17:00 -
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Could all the dev team please stand together so I can slap some sense into them?
After almost four (4) years of promising us Reverse Engineering they do a bait and switch move with Invention as outlined here: Linkage
First off letÆs look at what exactly reverse engineering is: Reverse engineering (RE) is the process of discovering the technological principles of a mechanical application through analysis of its structure, function and operation. It often involves taking something (e.g., a mechanical device, an electronic component, a software program) apart and analyzing its workings in detail, usually with the intention to construct a new device or program that does the same thing without actually copying anything from the original. The verb form is to reverse-engineer.
In EVE this was to mean taking something like a Blood Red Medium Laser Crystal and RE it then ending (if successful) with a BPO/BPC allowing you to create and sell your version. With the current proposed ôinventionö system you must use a BPC (thank god they are not forcing you to use a BPO) in order to invent something.
The first problem with that is WTH are the entire BPOS? I have been collecting items and special items to reverse for four years. I have 4 harvester drones in my ôto be reversedö can, where the heck am I going to get a BPC so I can invent the BP to build these. I have a prototype hull expander +30%, Heck I cant even find a normal expander BPO, there is no way I will ever find one for any of the 400+ prototype Items I have.
RE was supposed to be a way we could create our own brand of an item, this invention scheme will only give us the same item as every one else is ôinventingö
Sighà 4 years wasted collecting, bartering and searching for unique items only to be clothes lined by the DEV team.
And if you put ALL of the areas we must explore for the items required by ôinventionö in 0.0 space, I will call a POX down on the lot of you evil dev team. 
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Verus Potestas
Caldari Fiat Mort
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Posted - 2006.10.02 18:19:00 -
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It is not, and (as far as I know) was never intended to be used to let you create named item BPs.
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Garramon
Gallente Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e
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Posted - 2006.10.02 18:26:00 -
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Sounds like you hedged a bet and lost. Good thing this is a game.
I must recommend playing the game we do have, its quite good.
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Athren Soulsteal
Gallente Orion Faction
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Posted - 2006.10.02 18:43:00 -
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Actually back in 03 we were told that Reverse was in game if you knew where to look and that all Items in game (from ammo to bases) could be RE.
So no it was not hedging a bet but collecting what was needed to do reverse. The equivlent would be spending the next 2 months lvling rocket science for invention (as outlined in the blog) only to have it switched when invention is released to having to learn a diffrent skill "Inventing Rockets". IE, lots of wasted time.
Here is the main point, take any item on the market and look for a BPO/BPC. Unless they are completly reseeding the BPS you will not be able to invent much. And leaving the T2 lottery in place is just salting the wound. Hey CCP I just got a paper cut, you want to pour lemon juice on it
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Wrangler

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Posted - 2006.10.02 18:45:00 -
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You're welcome to repost when you learn some manners.
Not to mention what a bad idea insulting the owners of a forum is, on our own forums...
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Nafri
Caldari Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.02 18:45:00 -
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as op said,
reverse engineering is something announced years ago, and it was announced quite different than the "new" reverse engineering we will see now
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