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Navi Yarg
Gallente
Planetary Exploration and Securities Organization
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Posted - 2006.10.03 05:37:00 -
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I am currently in highsec and I have ran some level 4 missions. I am about to go to lowsec and run some level 4 missions. I notice that my hi sec level 4 agent only gives 2000 lp's and about 1 mil isk. The low sec agent gives close to 3 mil isk and close to 8000 lp's. My question is, is there any difference in the missions, or is the fact it is in lowsec that makes the differece in high and low sec.
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Roddic
Gallente
The Blood Roses
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Posted - 2006.10.03 05:45:00 -
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my advice
stay in highsec and do the missions.... the reward for low sec mission just isn't worth the greif...
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Aliennatives
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.10.03 06:29:00 -
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I always wondered about this, as I only have experience with missions in 0.0 NPC space. For reference, my level 4 Q 20 agents with my skills (effective quality 31) give 10838 LP for the harder level 4 missions. With political and military connections it tops 15k per run.
I guess now I know what empire runners get.
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Hotice
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Posted - 2006.10.03 07:28:00 -
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I don't know what kind of ships you fly. Just if you want to do missions in low sec, you should stay away from using battleships as much as possible. It is best to HAC since they are faster and have good damage output. While you are doing low sec missions, what you have to worry about is not just npc, you have to worry about player pirates. I personally got probed out in mission 17 times in past 3 months while in low sec doing missions. I fly mostly vagabond, ishtar and zealot. I really don't care about getting attacked in missions since my ships are either fast or can deal with it. For battleships, you are pretty much sitting duck if a cloaked pirate came into your mission. There isn't much you can do since you will most likely be taking on damage from both npc and priates.
So, if you use battleship for lvl 4s, stay in high sec and don't bother with low sec. The mission reward is not anywhere near the amount of risk you have to take. Remember, pirates can fit their ships for pure pvp setup but you have to fit your ship for pve. You will have very hard time to live through an pvp attack.
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Luke Pubcrawler
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Posted - 2006.10.03 08:07:00 -
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Have to agree with the earlier poster - if you are mission running stay in High sec, low sec is not worth the grief.
I mission in High sec and rat in 0.0 using an expendable ship. Low sec is an irritating slum I pass thro as rarely as possible. In fact now I have jump clones I will spend even less time there - I now have a highsec base for mission running, one 0.0 base with a ship positioned there for ratting and I can jump clone between the two ignoring lowsec, the border gatecamping lowlifes, and the lowsec pirates completely.
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Akane Inoue
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Posted - 2006.10.03 09:16:00 -
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I disagree.
Some low-sec is very dangerous. Some is slightly dangerous. Some is hardly dangerous at all. I run missions in a low-sec system. I have yet to have a PvP encounter while mission running. And I've been doing it on and off for months.
Having said that, you have to hunt hard for the right system. This is particularly difficult in Caldari space because of the paucity of decent Caldari agents and the huge player count. In less populated low-sec parts of the galaxy, there are often systems that are either very quiet or actively policed by the locals.
Of course, YMMV and if you find your BS blown out from under you a couple of times it quickly removes the advantages of having a low-sec agent.
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stoats
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Posted - 2006.10.03 11:08:00 -
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If you are running high quality low sec caldari agents, it IS dangerous. WTB: More low sec high quality caldari agents!
I make around 8k max in (lowest sec) high sec, highest quality with connections both to 4. In .1 Q20 it's 11k.
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Par'Gellen
Low Grade Ore
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Posted - 2006.10.03 11:36:00 -
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I think what the OP wants to know is if there is any difference in the missions themselves, not the rewards or risk. As far as I know the missions are the same as far as NPC's, objectives, etc. The only diffrence I know of is in the rewards the agent gives out.
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Verus Potestas
Caldari
Fiat Mort
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Posted - 2006.10.03 11:46:00 -
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Best missions, q18 agent in 0.5, I get 8.3k.
That's enough.
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Esaka
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.03 12:46:00 -
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 Originally by: Verus Potestas
Best missions, q18 agent in 0.5, I get 8.3k.
That's enough.
At which lvl are your lp related connection skills?
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Tsanse Kinske
WeMeanYouKnowHarm
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Posted - 2006.10.03 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: Par'Gellen
I think what the OP wants to know is if there is any difference in the missions themselves, not the rewards or risk. As far as I know the missions are the same as far as NPC's, objectives, etc. The only diffrence I know of is in the rewards the agent gives out.
Same here. Rewards, LPs, and also standing gains (I think.)
Originally by: Akane Inoue
Some low-sec is very dangerous. Some is slightly dangerous. Some is hardly dangerous at all. I run missions in a low-sec system. I have yet to have a PvP encounter while mission running. And I've been doing it on and off for months.
Having said that, you have to hunt hard for the right system. This is particularly difficult in Caldari space because of the paucity of decent Caldari agents and the huge player count. In less populated low-sec parts of the galaxy, there are often systems that are either very quiet or actively policed by the locals.
Of course, YMMV and if you find your BS blown out from under you a couple of times it quickly removes the advantages of having a low-sec agent.
Agree with all of the above.
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Barbicane
The Gun Club
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Posted - 2006.10.03 18:08:00 -
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Originally by: Verus Potestas
Best missions, q18 agent in 0.5, I get 8.3k.
That's enough.
With my q17 agent in 0.5 I get 8293LP for the top-end missions. That's with both connections skills at lvl 5.
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Galk
Gallente
Autumn Tactics
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Posted - 2006.10.03 18:29:00 -
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Edited by: Galk on 03/10/2006 18:33:04
It's funny, i was going to post a topic on this.
Having now sampled both.. low for a year and a half... and now camped in a high sec system, im free to comment on both.
Taking the extremes of this and last weekend..
Last weekend... low sec.. uphallant q17 gal navy... max lp for me is 10000 something.... isk reward/bonus is about 4 million totaling both.
Lost a basic mission fitted raven to a 3 bs camp.
Made 420k lp saturday day/sunday day/night... something like 400 million isk in rewards and bounty (excluding minerals/loot)
This weekend.... high sec... dodixie q13 gal navy.. max lp 5000.. isk/reward about 2 million totaling both.
Made 120k lp saturday afternoon/sunday afternoon/night (hangovers caught me out this week ) something like 390 million isk/rewards/bounty... But that was including quick selling 2 +4 implants that came up in storylines.. so say 300....
Thats the basic difference.. less time this weekend for sure, plus i helped a few locals out do their missions.. so could have sneaked a few more in myself, probaly bumping 200k.. half of the week before.
I have to be honest, they took my cap ship fleet away.. bollox to low sec.. even though i ran missions there before cap ships were ever around.... pretty much never realy existing in high sec since about july 03.. aside a few mining stints.. and agent runs.. before i knew how they worked with quality ect...
The risk v's just isn't there.. agressive/lame tactics of those wishing to ruin your day outweight the bother of running low sec in my opinion ( i know all the tricks.. and how to counter the vast majority.. but i just can't be ass'd with it).. this weekend (aside my throbing head for most of it) was free and easy with little worry... something i havn't experienced in a long time.
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majko
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.10.04 12:38:00 -
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I have created a table listing my lvl4 missions LP (and other things) relating to EQ (effective quality) of the agent and security status of the agent system.
reported numbers are related to lvl5 military connections skill. connections and other skill are allready covered by Effective Quality of the agent.
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Ogdru Jahad
Amarr
Four Horsemen
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Posted - 2006.10.04 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Navi Yarg
I am currently in highsec and I have ran some level 4 missions. I am about to go to lowsec and run some level 4 missions. I notice that my hi sec level 4 agent only gives 2000 lp's and about 1 mil isk. The low sec agent gives close to 3 mil isk and close to 8000 lp's. My question is, is there any difference in the missions, or is the fact it is in lowsec that makes the differece in high and low sec.
Hi ya Navi Yarg,
I have run missions in low sec for ages. basically since lvl4 missions were released. ( previous chr mind you ).
All you have to do is find the right agent for you. keep an eye on local and your fine.
In my abssolution i warped to a gate and found 3 bob bs's waiting for me in aridia. i waited the 30 seconds to see what they would do... one jumped through the gate to my home system
I right away turned around andalgned for my SS and warped off. knowing my ship could not handle 3 bs's I logged and came back 2 hours later and they were gone.
basically keep an eye on local. get to know the native mission runners etc.
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Verus Potestas
Caldari
Fiat Mort
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Posted - 2006.10.04 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: Esaka
Originally by: Verus Potestas
Best missions, q18 agent in 0.5, I get 8.3k.
That's enough.
At which lvl are your lp related connection skills?
4/5
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Masakaa
Caldari
The Penguin Republic
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.06 02:40:00 -
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Originally by: Ogdru Jahad
knowing my ship could not handle 3 bs's I logged and came back 2 hours later and they were gone.
See this is why I stay in high sec and run missions. I don't want to spend my play time available logged off to avoid the gankers.
I'd rather spend my time doing missions 
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Roddic
Gallente
The Blood Roses
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Posted - 2006.10.06 03:10:00 -
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Originally by: Masakaa
Originally by: Ogdru Jahad
knowing my ship could not handle 3 bs's I logged and came back 2 hours later and they were gone.
See this is why I stay in high sec and run missions. I don't want to spend my play time available logged off to avoid the gankers.
I'd rather spend my time doing missions
i'm with masaka on this.
i dont play much anymore since the reseach part of things was nerfed...but when i do get on and play missions. i very carefully fit out my ship and have fun in my limited time. the time i do have i dont want to be logged out, i want to be playing.
and for the pros and cons of doing the missions. the time it takes to refit is the most annoying. thats easily 2 play sessions for me.
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Mr Cheek
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Posted - 2006.10.06 07:50:00 -
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i get qual 55 15k lps for big missions and 6 to 8 mil per mission in 0.0
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Aslann
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Posted - 2006.10.06 21:56:00 -
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I'm running lvl 4's from a 0.9 system. With military connections at 3/5 I get 4.3k LP for missions like vengeance from a qua 18 agent. Missions rewards are usually 1mil + another mil bonus (or small arms....).
Tried switching to a lvl 4 agent in lower sec, but after getting ganked in my pimped up BC with over 40 million of fittings while building standing for access to the lvl 4 agent I gave up and went back to high sec :P.
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Lojik
FATAL REVELATIONS
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.07 12:01:00 -
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Edited by: Lojik on 07/10/2006 12:03:23
Low sec's/0.0 is all about the lp, the quicker you get to that magic Fraction BS BPC lp, the billions just start rolling in. 
As someone stated above in one weekend in low sec he got 300k more lp than in 1 weekend in high sec, so chances of some pretty nice offers from the low sec agent will be coming his way more often if he stayed in low sec
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chuckus
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Posted - 2006.10.08 03:52:00 -
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My lvl 4 agent in riavayad, effective qual 50 gives 7 761 lps on the top rewards. my lvl 4 security agent in assah. a .3 system ( ria is .6) gives 10 791 as top payout, my relavent lp skills are maxed for both.
Advantage to lowsec: Depending on where you are, you will recive higher isk payouts not just from the slightly higher effective qualities but you will also get higher standing gains for the same type of missions, yes I have just recently compared, the numbers are there when you right click on your agent, play around with it, it can be most enlightening.
Adavantage 2: With the increased lp payouts you can get the nice goodies a bit faster than higher sec areas.
Advantage 3: generaly fewer players about, tho that having been said, im in a border system to 0.0 so there are a lot more people on and in the system than normal, that and the pirates but that is another point.
Disadvantage 1: Pirates, you never know when some griefer who is out to make your day worse will try to interfer with your pve experience. I suggest not even thinking of .4 or lower for basing untill you are comfortable soloing, all the lvl 4 goodness of your respecitve factions.
Disadvantage 2: This is not so much bas as time consuming, for the most part, your better agents will tend to be fairly far away from the trade hubs, so quick selling storyline implants and the like may not always be to your advantage.
The advantages to higer sec mission running I think are fairly obvious, not getting griefed and access to more/better/closer markets for loot and such.
Ultimatly it boils down to how fast you want thos lp's to accumulate. for what it is worth, despite the substantial rewards of where I am, once I get the last +5 implant im looking for im moving back to .6, it is a good compromise for mission running, that and I have not found a decent agent I like in a .5
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