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fischsemmel AWE Corporation Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.03 23:44:00 - [1] Edited by: fischsemmel on 03/10/2006 23:46:08 Edited by: fischsemmel on 03/10/2006 23:45:44 If I were to pull a stunt and swindle people out of hundreds or thousands of dollars that is currently in the form of isk, say by lying to them so they think that they're buying a cerebus bpo when it's actually just a cerebus... CCP says "Buyer beware!" If I were to trick people out of their account info and aquire hundreds or thousands of dollars that is currently in the form of isk, say by lying to them so they think that I'm a CCP employee when I'm actually just me... CCP gets upset. It's not like someone is going to be less likely to quit and stop paying CCP if they are robbed blind via their own stupidity or if they are robbed blind via their own stupidity, right? What a world.
Womble God Gallente Compression Space Transport	Posted - 2006.10.03 23:46:00 - [2] huh?
Major Stormer Caldari Demon Womb Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.03 23:47:00 - [3] no...i think its right. i can happly kill someone in this game by tricking them, real world i would go to jail. same here, ingame scams is allowed becuase its ingame, getting into another persons account is against the law. -------------------------- Above post is my opinion only and does not represent my corp/alliance.
fischsemmel AWE Corporation Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.03 23:48:00 - [4] How is someone asking for your account info in-game, and them giving it to you in-game any different than you lying to someone in-game so you can take advantage of them in the game?
Major Stormer Caldari Demon Womb Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.03 23:50:00 - [5] because ingame is just isk, its a game. real life accounts involves real money, as well as being against the law. you have to understand "its just a game" is a lot different from "its just real life". if you cant understand the differences between the two then i feel sorry for you and wish BOB even more luck removing your biomass from space. -------------------------- Above post is my opinion only and does not represent my corp/alliance.
Beringe Raptus Regaliter	Posted - 2006.10.03 23:51:00 - [6] Originally by: fischsemmel How is someone asking for your account info in-game, and them giving it to you in-game any different than you lying to someone in-game so you can take advantage of them in the game? It's in-game v.s. out-of-game. In order to take advantage of their account info, you have to log in as them, whereas you can scam someone without resulting to any out-of-game means. Account info, personal information, etcetera = out-of-game, see? ------------------------------------------- "Never underestimate the power of language." --Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles--

Eldo Davip Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.10.03 23:54:00 - [7] Originally by: fischsemmel How is someone asking for your account info in-game, and them giving it to you in-game any different than you lying to someone in-game so you can take advantage of them in the game? This is because the account does not belong to you. You cannot log onto another person's account. This is real world property. See the difference? ISK is ingame property. Ingame property v/s RL property. Huge difference. ___ Email Us (Report a bad post) \| Forum Rules - Read 'em! \| Website

DuckM4n Vo	Posted - 2006.10.04 02:26:00 - [8] Because you are affecting the integrity of EVE and CCP by stealing peoples accounts.
mechtech	Posted - 2006.10.04 02:58:00 - [9] Originally by: fischsemmel Ingame property v/s RL property. Huge difference. perfectly said.
Miss Overlord Gallente Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2006.10.04 05:21:00 - [10] some ppl loose sight of this
Stratharn	Posted - 2006.10.04 23:00:00 - [11] I don't see how this can even be a question. Someone scamming you in-game is PART of the game. There are rogues out there (or 'rouges' if you play WoW) who make a lot of cash by selling a unit of Trit as a Macharial BP... and quite frankly, as much as I despise the tactic... it's PART of the game. Someone gaining your account information so that they can log into your account and rip you off is TOTALLY different. For starters, they'll also be able to post as you in the Forums, and screw with your account settings, or even cancel your subscription. You can see where losing a lot of ISK because you didn't check something properly, vs losing control over your entire account, are very different indeed. Rob http://www.chainblade.com/
Locke DieDrake Port Royal Independent Kontractors Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.10.04 23:19:00 - [12] Originally by: fischsemmel Edited by: fischsemmel on 03/10/2006 23:46:08 Edited by: fischsemmel on 03/10/2006 23:45:44 If I were to pull a stunt and swindle people out of hundreds or thousands of dollars that is currently in the form of isk, say by lying to them so they think that they're buying a cerebus bpo when it's actually just a cerebus... CCP says "Buyer beware!" If I were to trick people out of their account info and aquire hundreds or thousands of dollars that is currently in the form of isk, say by lying to them so they think that I'm a CCP employee when I'm actually just me... CCP gets upset. It's not like someone is going to be less likely to quit and stop paying CCP if they are robbed blind via their own stupidity or if they are robbed blind via their own stupidity, right? What a world. Basicly it boils down to some silly semantics about what is virtual, and what consititutes property in a virtual enviroment. My account details and log in information are no more property than my isk is. And no less so either. Both are stored on a server, as digital data, neither of which allow me to exert physical control. ___________________________________________ The deeper you stick it in your vein, the deeper the thoughts there's no more pain. ___________________________________________
Sadistic	Posted - 2006.10.04 23:33:00 - [13] If you scam someone to get ther account information, and then login under their account, you are stealing a real world commodity. Computer resource time. That person has paid CCP for the right to login anytime (other then downtime). By you logging in as their account, you are stealing their service. They cannot be logged in while you are there. It is no different then disconnecting your neighbors cable tv so that you can plug it into your house. The neighbor and cable company have every right to have your butt put in jail, even though it did not 'cost' the neighbor or the cable company any additional money.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.10.04 23:34:00 - [14] Originally by: fischsemmel How is someone asking for your account info in-game, and them giving it to you in-game any different than you lying to someone in-game so you can take advantage of them in the game? In-game scamming is allowed by the EULA, and does not break the law. Impersonating someone to take account information is both breaking the EULA and the law. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile. Originally by: Oveur last 30 days had 2358 accounts banned.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.10.04 23:35:00 - [15] Originally by: mechtech Originally by: fischsemmel Ingame property v/s RL property. Huge difference. perfectly said. You quoted the wrong person. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile. Originally by: Oveur last 30 days had 2358 accounts banned.
von Fury	Posted - 2006.10.04 23:37:00 - [16] "Silly semantics"? That post is about as ridiculous as the original poster. I am not sure about legalities because of the international ownership of Eve, but people have been prosecuted in the states for stealing others account information. The FBI just busted a big ring of account thieves in Wow just recently. Darn good chance those people are going to jail. Better get to know the difference because it is a huge difference.
Keleth	Posted - 2006.10.05 10:28:00 - [17] Originally by: fischsemmel How is someone asking for your account info in-game, and them giving it to you in-game any different than you lying to someone in-game so you can take advantage of them in the game? Because while the transaction may happen in-game, the object of the transaction is NOT in-game--account info is not an in-game item. It's no different than if you scammed somebody of their credit card info in a game chat channel.
Savio Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2006.10.05 10:36:00 - [18] i think its cool that you can lie in this game and use it to your advantage, if you are that type of person. That makes the eve sandbox more real, caus you can do what you want. i think it makes this game more mature and stand out from the others! in a posetive way! . Need a Sign? Click Here
Estelle Matsuko Caldari The Beiatch Corp Inc	Posted - 2006.10.05 11:42:00 - [19] Originally by: Savio i think its cool that you can lie in this game and use it to your advantage, if you are that type of person. That makes the eve sandbox more real, caus you can do what you want. i think it makes this game more mature and stand out from the others! in a posetive way! So... lying, stealing, cheating, and backstabbing are the attributes you consider make a "mature" game ?. They make for a different game, one where you have to be for the most part, paranoid about the people you interact with. A game that keeps you on your toes certainly, but mature? We have differing meanings for the word "mature".

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