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Mary Killigrew
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.02.14 00:49:56 -
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Hi 
I have a very pertinent issue - faction standings loss when carrying Combat Boosters, which are contraband, in high-sec. Now, it isn't always possible to fly a ship with 3 Nanofibs and 3 IS - anything remotely tanky still gets caught by the Customs just as soon as the gate jump is initiated.
So, is there a way to schmuggle Combat Boosters without being discovered? Haven't tried a Secure Container yet, though I'm certain it won't work.
Regards,
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Memphis Baas
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Posted - 2015.02.14 00:58:27 -
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I'm not an expert, but add Customs Drone to your overview and remove Concord, Police, and Faction Navy Drone, and scout the route with an empty ship?
Because they don't have Customs at every single gate, only at certain gates.
Then try to use the autopilot avoidance settings to avoid the star systems with customs; autopilot should plot a different route if one is possible. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
19824
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Posted - 2015.02.14 01:04:23 -
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Im sorry, but I was to understand that there will be no combat allowed in highsec.. so smuggling in boosters seems like a waste.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
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Serene Repose
2233
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Posted - 2015.02.14 01:17:08 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Im sorry, but I was to understand that there will be no combat allowed in highsec.. so smuggling in boosters seems like a waste. Either a bug got up your butt or you been listening to the wrong people, again. Did you just join an alliance? You look kinda...different.
The answer to the QUESTION is, the DEA's got nothin' on CONCORD. Their scanners will read the DNA on a flea's right testicle even while the dog is lickin'...if you get my drift. 
Treason never prospers. What is the reason?
Why, if it prospers, none dare call it "treason."
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ggodhsup
relocation LLC.
54
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Posted - 2015.02.14 01:25:18 -
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anyone remember when snakes gave a better chance of that stuff not being detected?....what happened to that? |
Tyrendian Biohazard
Ubiquitous Hurt
343
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Posted - 2015.02.14 01:27:51 -
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I'm not clear what you're trying to say/ask. You want to move boosters in any ship possible? I've been caught once ever, and that was because I screwed up and hung out on a gate too long. If you're looking to leave high sec to low/null, you either need to plan ahead and move them to a spot for easy pickup, or take them prior to leaving.
My twitch stream to help new players:
http://www.twitch.tv/biohazrd51
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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
1358
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Posted - 2015.02.14 01:28:07 -
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What about Blockade runners? Covop cloak can't be scanned through I believe (dunno if the cargo immunity scan bonus on Blockade runners works for Customs tho)
The Republic strikes back!
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Ned Thomas
Hellbound Turkeys
Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects
867
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Posted - 2015.02.14 01:30:55 -
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Jandice Ymladris wrote:What about Blockade runners? Covop cloak can't be scanned through I believe (dunno if the cargo immunity scan bonus on Blockade runners works for Customs tho)
It does not.
Vote Sabriz!
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
33057
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Posted - 2015.02.14 01:46:38 -
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Can't avoid customs scan in any ship.
Best to use an alt that you don't care about the standings on and just say no when discovered. Have 0 ISK in the wallet and the fine even becomes meaningless. Direct trade from the courier to another character in station so no ISK is required.
That's not from my own experience as I've only ever jumped into highsec by accident with boosters in my cargo; and normally I buy them one jump from lowsec, so have just copped the status hit when I've been scanned.
I just understand from other threads that this is the common approach to smuggling drugs to market.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Ned Thomas
Hellbound Turkeys
Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects
874
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Posted - 2015.02.14 02:07:53 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Best to use an alt that you don't care about the standings on and just say no when discovered. Have 0 ISK in the wallet and the fine even becomes meaningless. Direct trade from the courier to another character in station so no ISK is required.
So far as I've ever known, this is the correct way to do it. Fozzie has mentioned that giving Blockade runners a scan immunity to NPC's is a thing that is under consideration, but no plans to do that currently exist.
Vote Sabriz!
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Mary Killigrew
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.02.14 02:14:14 -
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Tyrendian Biohazard wrote:I'm not clear what you're trying to say/ask. You want to move boosters in any ship possible? ...If you're looking to leave high sec to low/null
Exactly that. Carrying 1-2 boosters for PVPeh. Guess I'll use an alt to move them 1j from Lowsecks, as Scipio suggested. |
Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
257
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Posted - 2015.02.14 02:19:44 -
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Older pilots may also have the Blackmarket skill that improves your chances of getting past.. Sadly this isn't available to us modern players :( |
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
376
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Posted - 2015.02.14 12:14:50 -
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And, like the old Snake implant bonus, it doesn't work anyway.
That's why the bonus was removed from them, the Black Market Trading skill being creation only means they didn't have to remove it but... |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
Spaceship Bebop
3708
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Posted - 2015.02.14 17:17:19 -
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I researched this, too.
My personal conclusions:
1. Fast aligning covops is pretty good, but not 100% safe
2. Scouting ahead to avoid gates with customs npcs is 100% safe, but ~effort~
I chose to go with 1 until I get caught, because ~lazy~
Make space glamorous!
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Chopper Rollins
Lantean Empire
1041
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Posted - 2015.02.15 00:32:17 -
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You have to scout and avoid or wait for customs to move on.
If you are on grid within 10km of a customs frigate you are insta-busted.
Just move em in a shuttle piloted by a toon whose standings you don't care about.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
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Code Redd
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.15 01:13:33 -
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Here's the thing.
Customs are on gates between regions, and between constellations (i dont think they're on every gate, and believe they may only be on THESE types of gates).
Do you see what you have to do now?
You travel a low sec route to at least the constellation that your destination is in, and then pass to your final location from there. Doin this properly, will allow you to bypass the customs guys (rare instances exempt from this, wherein, some one has moved them to the improper gate by bad smuggling). There's ALWAYS bugs with this idea, but this is the main way of avoiding them.
Not all constellations are going to have a low sec access, and so you will have to risk the customs anyway.
Dont believe me? Check it. I very well could be wrong, because its' been a long time, and EVE changes all the time. |
Soldarius
Kosher Nostra
The 99 Percent
1097
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Posted - 2015.02.16 16:21:37 -
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Use a BR with covops cloak and istabs in the lows. If you arrive on gate and get scanned, just jump out. you can say no while in the warp tunnel.
I've only once ever been scanned on the other side (got distracted), and that one time since I was cloaked they were not able to web/scram/etc. So I just said no and warped away.
Customs are a joke. They are completely ineffective except for a small isk fine and the standings penalty, which can be easily ground back up using missions.
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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Darth Terona
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2015.02.16 17:21:44 -
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Seems like I remember a smuggler can.... |
Chance Ravinne
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
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Posted - 2015.02.16 18:10:20 -
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What if smuggling boosters didn't result in the annoying popups or fines, but flagged you as a suspect?
You've just read another awesome post by Chance Ravinne, CEO of EVE's #1 torpedo delivery service. Watch our misadventures on my YouTube channel: WINGSPANTT
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Kiandoshia
Applied Anarchy
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.16 20:11:18 -
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Chance Ravinne wrote:What if smuggling boosters didn't result in the annoying popups or fines, but flagged you as a suspect?
That would likely make it less of a hassle than it is now ^^ |
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Mary Killigrew
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.02.17 04:36:01 -
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Chance Ravinne wrote:What if smuggling boosters didn't result in the annoying popups or fines, but flagged you as a suspect?
Do eeet, CCP! |
Hevymetal
Eve Defence Force
The Kadeshi
416
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Posted - 2015.02.17 12:57:41 -
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Mary Killigrew wrote:Hi I have a very pertinent issue - faction standings loss when carrying Combat Boosters, which are contraband, in high-sec. Now, it isn't always possible to fly a ship with 3 Nanofibs and 3 IS - anything remotely tanky still gets caught by the Customs just as soon as the gate jump is initiated. So, is there a way to schmuggle Combat Boosters without being discovered? Haven't tried a Secure Container yet, though I'm certain it won't work. Regards,
Fly under the influence, no need to smuggle :)
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Mary Killigrew
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.02.17 13:03:28 -
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Hevymetal wrote:Mary Killigrew wrote:Hi I have a very pertinent issue - faction standings loss when carrying Combat Boosters, which are contraband, in high-sec. Now, it isn't always possible to fly a ship with 3 Nanofibs and 3 IS - anything remotely tanky still gets caught by the Customs just as soon as the gate jump is initiated. So, is there a way to schmuggle Combat Boosters without being discovered? Haven't tried a Secure Container yet, though I'm certain it won't work. Regards, Fly under the influence, no need to smuggle :)
By the time you reach the roaming grounds and actually find something, the effect will have evaporated. 
But I like your style. |
Commander Spurty
Dimension Door
We need wards.
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Posted - 2015.02.17 13:05:22 -
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I seem to remember there being 'Smugglers routes' in EVE. Ones that you could follow and would avoid customs and scans.
Did I imagine these?
There are good ships
And wood ships
And ships that sail the sea
But the best ships are
Spaceships
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Spurty
Dimension Door
We need wards.
1423
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Posted - 2015.02.17 13:05:22 -
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I seem to remember there being 'Smugglers routes' in EVE. Ones that you could follow and would avoid customs and scans.
Did I imagine these?
There are good ships
And wood ships
And ships that sail the sea
But the best ships are
Spaceships
Built by CCP
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Mary Killigrew
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.02.17 13:14:43 -
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Commander Spurty wrote:I seem to remember there being 'Smugglers routes' in EVE. Ones that you could follow and would avoid customs and scans.
Did I imagine these?
http://www.eveiverse.com/items/smuggler_route_stargate
Doesn't help that the best prices for Strong boosters are in hubs like Amarr. |
Soldarius
Kosher Nostra
The 99 Percent
1099
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Posted - 2015.02.17 14:21:04 -
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Chance Ravinne wrote:What if smuggling boosters didn't result in the annoying popups or fines, but flagged you as a suspect?
This would make a lot more sense. Then player "police" could sit on gates with customs agents and potentially catch drug runners with insta-locking ships.
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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V0LC4N3
Es and Whizz
Hedonistic Imperative
0
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Posted - 2015.02.17 17:55:47 -
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Buy your boosters from Es and Whizz and we will deliver them to your lowsec station of choice. Saving you the hassle of running through highsec.
Join the Channel "Narcotics" to speak to one of our agents. |
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
732
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Posted - 2015.02.17 20:15:36 -
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Don't buy them in high sec!?!? Is that a statement, exclamation, question, or an epiphany? You decide, don't understand the reasoning that you are so risk adverse and cheap that you must always get them in highsec just because they are in highsec.....they are available in lowsec if someone where to put them on the market, but then again lowsec knuckle draggers are the reason most markets are in highsec  .
CCP is the reason there is really no "player" driven economy and market hubs in the backwoods when dudes want wild-west open shoot outs without CONCORD showing up, gate choke point and station mechanics, and dumb idiots who camp them yet some idiots complain to break up highsec to create more content cause of trade hubs....doubt it would even make a difference as they would still be face rolling their keyboards in boredom if Udema where to be .4  to break the routes to Jita and Mos Eisley (hive of scum) local. They still got 4 trade hubs to buy from that are not in lowsec 
aka highsec is where the trade is at, where the population is at, and bunch of wow kiddies too afraid to lose something other than a destroyer to CONCORD or another player  cause 7-8 bonused gank guns are so cheap and KMs showing up in +.5 space are like watching a kill streak pop up in a FPS for the short attention players  (the wow kiddies) |
Agent Unknown
Night Theifs
DamnedNation
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Posted - 2015.02.18 02:42:15 -
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Aqriue wrote:Don't buy them in high sec!?!? Is that a statement, exclamation, question, or an epiphany? You decide, don't understand the reasoning that you are so risk adverse and cheap that you must always get them in highsec just because they are in highsec.....they are available in lowsec if someone where to put them on the market, but then again lowsec knuckle draggers are the reason most markets are in highsec . CCP is the reason there is really no "player" driven economy and market hubs in the backwoods when dudes want wild-west open shoot outs without CONCORD showing up, gate choke point and station mechanics, and dumb idiots who camp them yet some idiots complain to break up highsec to create more content cause of trade hubs....doubt it would even make a difference as they would still be face rolling their keyboards in boredom if Udema where to be .4 to break the routes to Jita and Mos Eisley (hive of scum) local. They still got 4 trade hubs to buy from that are not in lowsec aka highsec is where the trade is at, where the population is at, and bunch of wow kiddies too afraid to lose something other than a destroyer to CONCORD or another player cause 7-8 bonused gank guns are so cheap and KMs showing up in +.5 space are like watching a kill streak pop up in a FPS for the short attention players (the wow kiddies)
I see a lot of whining in this post, and I'm all out of cheese and crackers. Damn. |
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