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Tudor Minmatar Revolt	Posted - 2006.10.04 12:28:00 - [1] Edited by: Tudor on 04/10/2006 12:34:44 after bob went hayway i see alot following them and claim areas.. when will eve have its first world war ? this would be a bit fun.. lets have a blast all.. then again that titel says eww...... rofl... WAR! and just to add something to it F.... U all... i will come and try kill you, all... also fly out to ascn and get a hauler or two maybe even get a bob ibiz ?
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.04 12:49:00 - [2] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 04/10/2006 12:49:28 So the massive [5] + friends vs the entire north and other previous wars weren't "world wars" even though they engaged about as many alliances as the current war? This is a "world war", but not the first. -[23] Member- Awesome new space games site, from the editor of E-ON!
Kazim The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.10.04 12:54:00 - [3] Edited by: Kazim on 04/10/2006 12:55:00 I wouldn't exactly call what's happening between bob and ascn a world war. Can't people wait until at least a month down the line and then MAYBE make posts like this. Because as of yet there's no real indication of everybody going bonkers here. edit: everybody, as in the rest of the server going to full out war.
Magnus Thermopyle Chosen Path Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.04 12:57:00 - [4] The Five with friends vs F-E with friends involved over 5000 players on each side at its peak, and the alliances Five, Stain Alliance, Veritas Immortalis, Forsaken Empire, Phoenix Alliance, NBSI as well as a number of smaller alliances where involved. About 10.000 ships where destroyed. So far, BoB vs ASCN has been just a few skirmishes. It has a long way to go before it can be called a big war.
Sir JoJo Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.04 12:58:00 - [5] War historie are made AFTER the war names off a war cant be decided 1 week into a war. so far eve had the GNW which seems to be the only war so far that made a name of itself Time will tell which wars or conflicts that'l make a name for itself. But really first the war have to reach a hole other lvl then it is on atm snip Don't be nasty [email protected] to discuss mod - Cathath i am not nasty
Jobie Thickburger Gallente Intergalactic Mining	Posted - 2006.10.04 13:18:00 - [6] Honestly, For Eve to break out into total war could EASILY happen. Same as WWI started way back in the day.... Germany (Lets call them "BoB" for now, as Germany was the agressor in WWI) began expanding, and with its allies (MC?, FIX?) began a massive land grab in Europe. Germany faced fierce opposition though, coming from France and Great Brittan (ASCN) For the first portion of the war, it was about 50/50 as to who would win, But the war was fought fairly etc (as opposed to some WWII happenings, but I digress). Even so, WWI would probally have ended in a stalemate, With Germany having the better end of the deal. Germany, though, didn't want to risk a stalemate, as they new that the UK was being aided by their allies across the sea, the USA (in this case, the Southern Coalition). In an attempt to keep the US occupied, Germany sent word to Mexico (Red Alliance) to attempt to get them to engage the US if the need was to arrise (The Zimmerman Telegram) Thankfully today though, we don't have to worry about intercepted telegrams, So Mexico's attack may just be pulled off This war, Just like any other, could easily grow into something 100x larger than it already is. Best bet is to either pick a side or get out of the way (Now, As this is the 5th time I've tried to post this, just mabey will it work!) His Planetship, CEO, IM
Jobie Thickburger Gallente Intergalactic Mining	Posted - 2006.10.04 13:18:00 - [7] Honestly, For Eve to break out into total war could EASILY happen. Same as WWI started way back in the day.... Germany (Lets call them "BEVE Online \| EVE Insider \| Forums \| 204
Elisca Black	Posted - 2006.10.04 13:19:00 - [8] For starters, for the BOB vs ASCN war to be CALLED a WAR, BOB would have to be at RISK OF LOSING. They are not. Atm it's just BoB conquering more territory.
Cabadrin Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.04 13:22:00 - [9] This has been bothering me for a while: since EVE is in a galaxy or a star cluster, wouldn't it be the first eve galactic war? EGW I? _______________________________________________
Elisca Black Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.04 14:00:00 - [10] Originally by: Elisca Black Posting with an unidentified alt in this forum is prohibited, if you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc ([email protected]) How's tis. Any conflict is not a WAR, until both sides are at risk of loosing. BOB is not at risk, therfor it's just the invasion and subsequent conquering of ASCN space.
Shamis Orzoz SniggWaffe	Posted - 2006.10.04 14:20:00 - [11] The Great Northern War is the only thing that comes close to a world war, and that didn't involve some of the southern entities at all.
Samirol Ore Mongers	Posted - 2006.10.04 14:26:00 - [12] Originally by: Jobie Thickburger Britain sent word to the US that the British "intercepted" a message to Mexico to fire up the US and get them to help them engage germany if the need was to arise (The Zimmerman Telegram) fixed Ore Mongers is recruiting
Endeva Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.04 14:34:00 - [13] Originally by: Jobie Thickburger Honestly, For Eve to break out into total war could EASILY happen. Same as WWI started way back in the day.... Germany (Lets call them "BoB" for now, as Germany was the agressor in WWI) began expanding, and with its allies (MC?, FIX?) began a massive land grab in Europe. Germany faced fierce opposition though, coming from France and Great Brittan (ASCN) For the first portion of the war, it was about 50/50 as to who would win, But the war was fought fairly etc (as opposed to some WWII happenings, but I digress). Even so, WWI would probally have ended in a stalemate, With Germany having the better end of the deal. Germany, though, didn't want to risk a stalemate, as they new that the UK was being aided by their allies across the sea, the USA (in this case, the Southern Coalition). In an attempt to keep the US occupied, Germany sent word to Mexico (Red Alliance) to attempt to get them to engage the US if the need was to arrise (The Zimmerman Telegram) Thankfully today though, we don't have to worry about intercepted telegrams, So Mexico's attack may just be pulled off This war, Just like any other, could easily grow into something 100x larger than it already is. Best bet is to either pick a side or get out of the way (Now, As this is the 5th time I've tried to post this, just mabey will it work!) rofl- we arent germans and asnc isnt GB and tbh Red alliance cant be Mexico
Lord Sidon Amarr Classified Pure.	Posted - 2006.10.04 14:41:00 - [14] CA v EVE was the eve WW1. ----------------------------------------------- . . NBSI = Not Blue Shoot It Blue = everyone we were shooting last time you logged on Not Blue = everyone else
Nifel Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.04 14:44:00 - [15] Originally by: Jobie Thickburger Honestly, For Eve to break out into total war could EASILY happen. Same as WWI started way back in the day.... Germany (Lets call them "BoB" for now, as Germany was the agressor in WWI) began expanding, and with its allies (MC?, FIX?) began a massive land grab in Europe. Germany faced fierce opposition though, coming from France and Great Brittan (ASCN) For the first portion of the war, it was about 50/50 as to who would win, But the war was fought fairly etc (as opposed to some WWII happenings, but I digress). Even so, WWI would probally have ended in a stalemate, With Germany having the better end of the deal. Germany, though, didn't want to risk a stalemate, as they new that the UK was being aided by their allies across the sea, the USA (in this case, the Southern Coalition). In an attempt to keep the US occupied, Germany sent word to Mexico (Red Alliance) to attempt to get them to engage the US if the need was to arrise (The Zimmerman Telegram) Thankfully today though, we don't have to worry about intercepted telegrams, So Mexico's attack may just be pulled off This war, Just like any other, could easily grow into something 100x larger than it already is. Best bet is to either pick a side or get out of the way (Now, As this is the 5th time I've tried to post this, just mabey will it work!) You're mixing WWI up with something. Not entirely sure what. Here's how WWI started. "When I die I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandpa. Not yelling and screaming like the passengers in his car." RKK Ranking: (MIN14)
evistin Multiverse Corporation	Posted - 2006.10.04 14:50:00 - [16] Technically you can't call it a World War, its not on any world. Its a Galatic War. ----------- Management and Leadership û The Eve-online Guide

Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.10.04 14:51:00 - [17] Originally by: Elisca Black Originally by: Elisca Black Posting with an unidentified alt in this forum is prohibited, if you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc ([email protected]) How's tis. perfect, thanks, happy posting ____ forum rules \| [email protected]

Durvaul Caldari SAS Strike Team Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.04 14:59:00 - [18] Edited by: Durvaul on 04/10/2006 15:05:47 Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 04/10/2006 12:49:28 So the massive [5] + friends vs the entire north and other previous wars weren't "world wars" even though they engaged about as many alliances as the current war? This is a "world war", but not the first. Says the fixion lapdog At the end of the day, this is just a simple pvp war that has lots of properganda, its not amazing its not omg there all gonna die it's just a silly war cause shrike is bored and he knows that ASCN will put up enuff of a fight so there not bored and not enuff to wipe him out
Torshin Kydance Radiant Industries Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.04 15:04:00 - [19] Jobie don't even try and start compairing BoB V ASCN to WWI. BOB V ASCN currently involves some where around 2 parties while WWI involved over half a dozen major factions. As for the OP wait until something happens to make statements about this being a great war, as of now it is just as has been said, a few skirmishs wait till something actually happens to make a thread about it See you at KRIN.
Durvaul Caldari SAS Strike Team Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.04 15:07:00 - [20] Originally by: Torshin Jobie don't even try and start compairing BoB V ASCN to WWI. BOB V ASCN currently involves some where around 2 parties while WWI involved over half a dozen major factions. As for the OP wait until something happens to make statements about this being a great war, as of now it is just as has been said, a few skirmishs wait till something actually happens to make a thread about it Don't wste your breath, most amercians havent a clue wt happend in wwi or wwII, to busy thinking there heroes

Petwraith Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.10.04 15:18:00 - [21] Thread cleaned of references to real world politics. Please remember that discussion of politics is not allowed on these forums. --- If it ain't orange, it ain't offical!

Toppar Wear Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.04 15:22:00 - [22] We got a galatic war going on very strong right now. Its called LAG vs All eve players. And yes Lag is the winning party and will always be.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.04 16:05:00 - [23] Originally by: Durvaul Edited by: Durvaul on 04/10/2006 15:05:47 Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 04/10/2006 12:49:28 So the massive [5] + friends vs the entire north and other previous wars weren't "world wars" even though they engaged about as many alliances as the current war? This is a "world war", but not the first. snip At the end of the day, this is just a simple pvp war that has lots of properganda, its not amazing its not omg there all gonna die it's just a silly war cause shrike is bored and he knows that ASCN will put up enuff of a fight so there not bored and not enuff to wipe him out Its not the size of the war that matters, but the number of people and alliances it affects. Both BoB and ASCN have huge numbers of diplomatic relations in both directions, and with these two large power blocks duking it out nearly everyone in and around the south will be involved in one way or another. -[23] Member- Awesome new space games site, from the editor of E-ON!
Drilla Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.04 16:12:00 - [24] CA vs. * = First Big War (there's a reason CA is still talked about this day) GNW = Second Big War but only involved a smallish (compared to amount of involved people in CA's wars and the [5] wars) part of EVE (but went on a looong time and a lot of forum antics made it seem bigger than it was) [5] vs. Xetic, RA + North = Third big war Those are the 'big' wars - there has been alot of great (in terms of fighting and forum antics) wars in EVE though and I bet all of them provided more fun than the big blobfests). Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost!
Mistress Suffering Einherjar Rising Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.10.04 17:18:00 - [25] So far it seems pretty localized. Its very loud in forums, but until you start seeing many of the other big alliances get involved its just a fairly normal conflict. Please continue to give us war details though. Not everyone has an alt in BoB and ASCN to pass them info
thoth foc Destructive Influence	Posted - 2006.10.04 17:39:00 - [26] Originally by: Mistress Suffering So far it seems pretty localized. Its very loud in forums, but until you start seeing many of the other big alliances get involved its just a fairly normal conflict. tbh the loudest ppl are the "OMGANTIBOB" ppl shout everyone should go invade bob space.. There has been a few significant events, such as the DD weapon being fired.. but there really hasnt been alot to say yet.. as BL said a few days ago.. the war(at time of posting) was only 4 days old.. there is alot of ships to be lost before it finishes >: )
Shiwan Khan Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.04 18:11:00 - [27] wow im really getting tired of all these people that have only been ingame long enough to see one, potentially big war, and they start proclaiming it the next OMGWTFBBQIOWNZORZUSTFU battle...let the players who have been around long enough to see every major conflict make that decision... "TO THETR DRUMNBS OF WAR WET GHO" - Buddrow 2005.06.17 07:15:13 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes Nebba Kenezzer [SNRA], wrecking for 2250.9 damage.
Emrod Amarr Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.10.04 19:42:00 - [28] The name World War are not appropriated because the battle is not on a planet...we talk about here a GALATIC WAR Ca Vs Eve was the first one! The GNW are not a Galatic War because its happen just in the North . And yeah the north have endure a lots of conflict but i admit it have 2 GNW here and the last one its The Five vs Pa! the actual ASCN Vs Bob war are not a Galatic War...name it the Class of the Capsulers Empires if you want...its just two big entity who figth at eachother...wait a coupe of weeks or month before trying to name this conflict.... anyways in the begininng of world war 2, nobodies name it world war 2 ! The Tau Ceti Federation, proudly *** off the Northern Coalition till 2006*
Virtuozzo eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.04 20:02:00 - [29] There is no "war" yet. If you're looking for a comparison dig up some of the historical reviews by B. Tuchmann, the current circumstances are remarkeably similar to the phony war, as they called it at the time. Virtuozzo RECRUITMENT TEASERS. Last words of a Caldari general: "Pull the Ravens back! Full retreat! they've got frigates!"
GoLdeN BoY D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2006.10.04 20:45:00 - [30] Originally by: Lord Sidon CA v EVE was the eve WW1. /Signed
Eskalin Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.04 21:51:00 - [31] omfg people can we stop with the redundancy it's just some skirmishes so far. so stfu with the speculation i'm sure bob and ascn forum warriors will keep you updated .......it's like looking at the audience for reality tv.
Admiral Feelgood Even-Flow	Posted - 2006.10.04 21:57:00 - [32] Originally by: Elisca Black Any conflict is not a WAR, until both sides are at risk of loosing. BOB is not at risk, therfor it's just the invasion and subsequent conquering of ASCN space. Actually, invasion and subsequent conquest of another entity is exactly what a war entails. # defeat and elimination of the enemy's armed forces and the command systems which control them; # destruction of the military-economic and economic potential of a state, as well as such other material elements of a state's power that allow it to wage armed combat; # seizure and occupation of part or all of a given territory. http://fmso.leavenworth.army.mil/documents/pkterms.htm#war
Elisca Black Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.04 22:06:00 - [33] What dont you people get? The great Northern War was what it was because you had relationships and PACTs....NAST? Many people do not remember the very complex relationships that existed between CoD,FU,NORAD,EVOL,m0o,PA,CA,UNICOR.. The alliances had pacts and treatys and they stood as equals, if you get invaded we will mobilize against your enemy or defend you. These relationships FORGED BoB. You had 150 man fleets from Fountain CORE moving up to defend against 100 man fleets from CA. In the mix of it all you had BNC,RKK,EVOL,m0o,R-K,CE,GODS all duking it out. When the next great war comes you will have a build up...this is just BoB taking out the trash in our backyard. Space that is rightfully ours.
Admiral Feelgood Even-Flow	Posted - 2006.10.04 22:17:00 - [34] Originally by: Elisca Black What dont you people get? The great Northern War was what it was because you had relationships and PACTs....NAST? Many people do not remember the very complex relationships that existed between CoD,FU,NORAD,EVOL,m0o,PA,CA,UNICOR.. The alliances had pacts and treatys and they stood as equals, if you get invaded we will mobilize against your enemy or defend you. These relationships FORGED BoB. You had 150 man fleets from Fountain CORE moving up to defend against 100 man fleets from CA. In the mix of it all you had BNC,RKK,EVOL,m0o,R-K,CE,GODS all duking it out. When the next great war comes you will have a build up...this is just BoB taking out the trash in our backyard. Space that is rightfully ours. I don't really know if you were responding to me. You didn't adress what I said and I can't find exactly what you were trying to adress in this thread so I'll just asume this was directed at me. In your opinion you might "just be taking out the trash" but there is a political unit of 5000 pilots + their allies in POS/AXE that seem to disagree with you. Right now you're persecuting armed aggresion on somebody else's sovreign territory. The intent of said armed agresion is to debilitate ASCN's command and control structure, eliminate their military presense and bring the territory currently are in under your direct authority with the intent of denying them use. This is a war, it might not be a big deal but it's a war. If you scroll down a bit on that link I provided you with in my last post you'll notice a section on "Operations-Other-Than-War" This includes: * various peacekeeping operations; * international police operations, e.g., eradicating international criminal groups, combating terrorism, piracy, illegal arms and drug trade, and guarding strategically important facilities, such as atomic power plants; * legal interventions. Clearly you aren't going there to maintain peace, in fact your'e disrupting it through means of force. It isn't an international policing operation, because it would require multiple political bodies. This works against you because ASCN/POS/AXE are multiple political bodies while you are only one, so they could enact policing measures on you if they manage to force you back without calling it a war. Thirdly legal interventions, ASCN wasn't in violation of any treaties that I'm aware of, and there are no laws governing alliances. I don't mean to be offensive or anything, but what BoB is doing is most certainly war.
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.04 22:56:00 - [35] Originally by: Admiral Feelgood Right now you're persecuting armed aggresion on somebody else's sovreign territory. The intent of said armed agresion is to debilitate ASCN's command and control structure, eliminate their military presense and bring the territory they currently are in under your direct authority with the intent of denying them use. This is a war, it might not be a big deal but it's a war. We're really intending to do all that? I should pay more attention Eve Blacklight Style
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.04 23:10:00 - [36] Edited by: Nez Perces on 04/10/2006 23:09:59 Originally by: Blacklight I should pay more attention .. all that drinking is starting to catch up with you BL... /emote hides a bottle of Ballantine's under a stack of papers...
Talos Shadow	Posted - 2006.10.05 04:19:00 - [37] Edited by: Talos Shadow on 05/10/2006 04:22:42 Edited by: Talos Shadow on 05/10/2006 04:20:44 Like has been said recently. its not a GWII (if I read most of these replys correctly) There only been one war. its not even a war in tactial areas. Details below if I get the meaning of a GW correct and I bet its simliar to a world war term, 80% of the world/ Galaxy in this case has to be in conflict both north and south. Also both sides would have to attack terrtiorys at the moment Bob is only attacking, so its an invason, only (sorry about my typing I so tired working nights)If the opportant attacks Bobs space then its classed has a war. On another note, I new to Eve-online So a big Hello Talos
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.05 04:56:00 - [38] Originally by: Talos Shadow On another note, I new to Eve-online So a big Hello Talos You had better show your corporation name under forum settings, or else it will be a very short hello Mods will delete your post if don't.
Shalimar Fox 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.10.05 06:17:00 - [39] Well we could all wardec the nodes mybe the powers that be would then be so kind and slay the lag monster that killd so manny brave men in the recent past Originally by: "Bor'rak" It amazes me how some people can put two and two together and come up with five! And then post it
NOObbody Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.10.05 06:38:00 - [40] Originally by: Talos Shadow Also both sides would have to attack terrtiorys at the moment Bob is only attacking, so its an invason, only (sorry about my typing I so tired working nights)If the opportant attacks Bobs space then its classed has a war. Uhm, thats.... wrong.
Will Fireblade TunDraGon	Posted - 2006.10.05 07:17:00 - [41] Originally by: Magnus Thermopyle The Five with friends vs F-E with friends involved over 5000 players on each side at its peak, and the alliances Five, Stain Alliance, Veritas Immortalis, Forsaken Empire, Phoenix Alliance, NBSI as well as a number of smaller alliances where involved. About 10.000 ships where destroyed. Those were good times, big battles and lots of fun very good fights indeed. Damn man the NBSI vs Veritas war was teh ****.. Cu in Space
Shiwan Khan Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.05 18:27:00 - [42] Originally by: Magnus Thermopyle The Five with friends vs F-E with friends involved over 5000 players on each side at its peak, and the alliances Five, Stain Alliance, Veritas Immortalis, Forsaken Empire, Phoenix Alliance, NBSI as well as a number of smaller alliances where involved. About 10.000 ships where destroyed. So far, BoB vs ASCN has been just a few skirmishes. It has a long way to go before it can be called a big war. 10,000 is a good amount of ships, but if memory serves, CA in killmails alone had 50,000. That doesn't count our losses we had in the 2 years that we were dominating eve. "TO THETR DRUMNBS OF WAR WET GHO" - Buddrow 2005.06.17 07:15:13 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes Nebba Kenezzer [SNRA], wrecking for 2250.9 damage.

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