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Ares Desideratus
Star Children Of Cain
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Posted - 2015.02.14 14:09:12 -
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Please fix the Omen hull and just get rid of that weird tumor thing sticking out of the right side of it. The ship is almost good-looking it just needs to be tweaked a little, and the main problem is the suitcase / boob / goose egg hanging off of the right side of it.
Thank you.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.02.14 14:18:59 -
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But I love my shiny golden goiter...
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.14 14:34:11 -
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this again...no
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and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Ares Desideratus
Star Children Of Cain
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Posted - 2015.02.14 14:47:40 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:this again...no
What are you talking about son, you really prefer that stupid thing hanging off the side?
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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2015.02.14 14:59:11 -
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Could be something else, but I would miss something on the Omen if it weren't there. Besides of that, it's the drone bay of the ship; you can't just remove that.
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Hra Neuvosto
FinFleet
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2015.02.14 16:17:01 -
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Fix your hair first |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.14 16:18:49 -
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Ares Desideratus wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:this again...no What are you talking about son, you really prefer that stupid thing hanging off the side?
The last guy called it a tumor,
I don't remember what the guy before that called it.
While I'm not particularly fond of the hull I will concede that it's in need of some attention,
the bulge should remain a design feature.
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and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Murkar Omaristos
The Alabaster Albatross
Eternal Pretorian Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.14 17:00:54 -
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Can we plz fix the celestis first tho? It's shaped like cancer. >_> |
Ares Desideratus
Star Children Of Cain
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Posted - 2015.02.14 17:04:58 -
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It may be true that the thing sticking out the side of the Omen is a drone bay or whatever, it could be any technical feature of the ship, it doesn't matter either way. But this simple fact alone doesn't mean that we need this big thing sticking out of the side. There's no reason for this drone bay to be sticking this far out of the ship, and there's no reason why they couldn't place this drone bay on the under-belly of the ship somewhere and make it stick out less, or even just make it a less major bulge in it's current position.
They could extend and flatten this bulge to make it less apparent. There are so many options to deal with this.
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Ares Desideratus
Star Children Of Cain
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Posted - 2015.02.14 17:10:51 -
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I definitely agree that there are a decent number of ships that should be re-modeled or at least edited.
I'm just posting this because in my current situation in Eve the Omen is one of the main ships that I use and I would love to see it get turned into the beautiful ship that it has the potential to be.
I definitely agree that the Celestis is in need of an overhaul, and probably needs one more than the Omen.
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Ares Desideratus
Star Children Of Cain
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Posted - 2015.02.14 17:13:47 -
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There is also the possibility of editing this hull and making two smaller drone bays on either side of the ship, that way we would have a symmetrical Omen with a small tumor on either side rather than one big suitcase hanging off of one side.
I'd be happy with just leaving the goiter / suitcase / thing exactly where it is, but editing it dimensions to fit more aesthetically with the ship.
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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
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Posted - 2015.02.14 17:30:24 -
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Or you could just fly not-an-Omen.
Not every ship needs to be symmetrical. If your OCD is kicking you in the balls because your ship is asymmetrical and not because the ship is genuinely hideous (celestis), fly something else. |
Ares Desideratus
Star Children Of Cain
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Posted - 2015.02.14 18:09:10 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote:Or you could just fly not-an-Omen.
Not every ship needs to be symmetrical. If your OCD is kicking you in the balls because your ship is asymmetrical and not because the ship is genuinely hideous (celestis), fly something else.
I do have OCD, but I don't care about whether it is technically symmetrical or technically asymmetrical; I just think that this big ass tumor is way too big and ugly and there is no reason for it to be this huge pimple hanging off of it.
It's not the fact that it is asymmetrical. I really don't care whether it is symmetrical or not. I just think this giant thing hanging off the side is ugly and it should be edited.
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Ares Desideratus
Star Children Of Cain
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Posted - 2015.02.14 18:11:03 -
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Also, I can't just fly a non-Omen ship. The Omen is the only good Tech 1 non-faction laser boat out of all the Amarr laser boats.
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Snuffed Out
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Posted - 2015.02.14 18:22:20 -
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Get over it. Weird asymmetrical protrusions are a time-honored ship design trait of many iconic ships. It makes you REMEMBER them.
Some examples:
- Atron/Taranis/Ares
- Catalyst/Eris
- Coercer/Heretic
- Dragoon
- Vexor/Vexor Navy/Ishtar
- Thorax/Deimos
- Omen/Omen Navy/Zealot
- Eagle/Onyx
- Megathron/Megathron Navy/Kronos
- Typhoon/Panther
- Tempest/Tempest Fleet/Vargur
- Rokh
- Raven/Raven Fleet/Golem
- Aeon
- Thanatos
It is like listening to music that is slightly off-key at certain parts. For some songs, it works... but you remember it specifically because it is "slightly off."
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
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Posted - 2015.02.14 18:39:18 -
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Some ships are asymmetrical and hideous at the same time. We call those ships "scheduled for remodeling".
Other ships are asymmetrical and otherwise look just fine - or in some cases look better for the lack of symmetry. Those ships are considered as "having character". |
Ares Desideratus
Star Children Of Cain
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Posted - 2015.02.14 18:52:33 -
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Please listen.
It is not about whether it is symmetrical or asymmetrical. That is not what this is about. If CCP were to strap on another goiter on the opposite side of the ship, it would not make me happy just because it makes it symmetrical.
The point is the thing is stupid and ugly. If they fixed it the ship would look much better, I don't care whether it is symmetrical or not.
I think the stupid thing is ugly and I think it should be fixed. I'm not gonna get over it. Maybe I'm wrong and maybe the majority of players find this protruding nut-sack aesthetically pleasing.
Just understand that this symmetrical / asymmetrical debate has nothing to do with it, really. If you guys are in love with asymmetrical ships, I don't care. I just think that this one happens to be ugly because of a poor design choice.
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Snuffed Out
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Posted - 2015.02.14 18:57:03 -
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Soooo... basically what you are saying is...
"Because I do not like it, it should be changed. To hell with what other people think."
While I try to respect others opinions (most of the time) I can only respond with this; Get over yourself.
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
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Van Beyus
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.02.14 19:01:53 -
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Fix the Svipul first. It's easier, I guess...
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Ares Desideratus
Star Children Of Cain
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Posted - 2015.02.14 19:10:33 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:Soooo... basically what you are saying is...
"Because I do not like it, it should be changed. To hell with what other people think."
While I try to respect others opinions (most of the time) I can only respond with this; Get over yourself.
So basically what you're saying is,
"Because I am fine with the Omen as it is, it should not be changed. To hell with what other people think."
While I respect your opinion, I can only respond with this: GTFO
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2015.02.14 19:12:28 -
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Ares Desideratus wrote:ShahFluffers wrote:Soooo... basically what you are saying is...
"Because I do not like it, it should be changed. To hell with what other people think."
While I try to respect others opinions (most of the time) I can only respond with this; Get over yourself. So basically what you're saying is, "Because I am fine with the Omen as it is, it should not be changed. To hell with what other people think." While I respect your opinion, I can only respond with this: GTFO
And so we now we reach an impasse.
I guess it just comes down to popularity at this point. And I'm seeing more posts in support of the "tumor" on the Omen. 
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
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Ares Desideratus
Star Children Of Cain
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Posted - 2015.02.14 19:20:04 -
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I'm not against the tumor. I believe all ships have the right to have a tumor if they want.
It's just that I wish this one looked less like a miniature Omen, or a Fleet Issue Impairor, clinging precariously to the sides of the sleek hull of the Omen by the strength of a drone bay umbilicus, and more like just a little drone bay on the side.
Speaking of which, the thing doesn't actually look anything like a drone bay. It really looks more like an Impairor that got stuck to the side of the Omen with Lego or something. Why not get rid of this non-sense drone bay and replace it with an actual bay, for the drones.
It is seriously a crap ship feature at the moment. The Omen is almost a good looking ship.
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ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers
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Posted - 2015.02.14 19:50:34 -
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ITS NOT A TUMOR!!!!! |
Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
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Posted - 2015.02.14 21:59:43 -
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Maybe they could put another tumor from opposite side and make it looks more balanced, i wonder how heavy this tumor is. Dors it make any impact to agil or veloc of the ship or maybe inertia.
Thank's for bringing this up. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
3497
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Posted - 2015.02.14 22:02:51 -
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Let me be more blunt:
I'm tired of people trying to strip the character from every ship in the game - including those which are widely considered good - simply because they don't have "hollywood-style" designs.
Fly a different ship or be quiet. |
Azazel The Misanthrope
Animadversion Tactical Operations Index
Legion of Immortal Corporations
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Posted - 2015.02.14 22:07:13 -
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Why does everything always need to be symmetrical? It would be chool if the Omen got an overhaul, but I like the tumor. I like asymmetry. Like this if you like asymmetry. |
Ares Desideratus
Star Children Of Cain
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Posted - 2015.02.14 22:10:26 -
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Tiddle Jr wrote:Maybe they could put another tumor from opposite side and make it looks more balanced, i wonder how heavy this tumor is. Dors it make any impact to agil or veloc of the ship or maybe inertia.
Thank's for bringing this up.
If the drone-bay-suitcase hanging off the side of the Omen had a negative effect on the velocity or agility of the Omen, it would no doubt be very unwise to build yet another drone-bay suitcase on the opposite side of the ship. In fact it would make a lot of sense in this situation to either strip the drone-bay suitcase away completely, or give it a major overhaul to improve performance.
Yet another great reason to fix the drone-bay suitcase that hangs off of the side of the Omen.
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Ares Desideratus
Star Children Of Cain
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Posted - 2015.02.14 22:13:13 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote:Let me be more blunt:
I'm tired of people trying to strip the character from every ship in the game - including those which are widely considered good - simply because they don't have "hollywood-style" designs.
Fly a different ship or be quiet.
Why do you think that stripping, or overhauling the drone-bay suitcase hanging off the side of the Omen, would take the character away from the ship class?
The drone-bay suitcase doesn't have to be completely stripped away, but it can be remodeled to look more like an actual drone-bay and less like someone just duct taped an Impairor to the side of the ship.
Because it really looks stupid the way it is right now. It's like a big lizard carrying a suitcase or something. It's really weird, the drone-bay, I mean, it's just dumb looking. And it actually looks nothing like a drone-bay.
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Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
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Posted - 2015.02.14 22:16:00 -
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I honestly always thought that drone bays are inside of the ship 
Looks like amamrian engineers were lazy to make it more visiual and technical looks like.
They would deffinatelly will go to hell.
If you don't like it from right side of the ship how about to put it above or under would it make looks better for you? |
Ares Desideratus
Star Children Of Cain
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Posted - 2015.02.14 22:16:33 -
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Azazel The Misanthrope wrote:Why does everything always need to be symmetrical? It would be chool if the Omen got an overhaul, but I like the tumor. I like asymmetry. Like this if you like asymmetry.
I agree.
That's why there is nothing wrong with asymmetry. If anyone is picky about ships based on symmetry, or asymmetry, that's a pretty narrow view of things, really a lot of ships that are asymmetrical are some of the best looking ships in the game.
It's not the fact that the Omen is asymmetrical that makes it ugly. It's just the drone-bay on the side that looks like someone stapled an Impairor to the side of the ship.
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