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RedWyvern
Old Spice Syndicate Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2015.02.16 11:44:51 -
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Hi folks, just wondering what the done thing is generally when a blue AWOXes?
I got dumpstered last night by a 'coalition-mate' who locked me down while his buddies (from a red corp) jumped in and stomped all over me. I'm happy to suck it up because 'eve', 'content' etc, I've never been AWOXed before so it's kinda cool to be able to add this to the list of stuff I;ve done/had happen in eve - but if losses like this tend to reimbursed by the corp the AWOXer infiltrated, then no reason not to raise it with them I guess?! 
Cheers in advance |

Lan Wang
Coreli Corporation The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2015.02.16 11:59:22 -
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RedWyvern wrote:Hi folks, just wondering what the done thing is generally when a blue AWOXes?
usually cry on the forums and everyone else collects the tears and tells you to get over it, no you do not get reimbursed for awoxing as its a viable playstyle, ccp also collect tears
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.16 12:00:06 -
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Generally the victim(s) will post hilarious whinge threads in the crime and punishment subforum whereby They will be mercilessly mocked and/or wardecked by the mercenary groups loitering therein.
once you lose something in eve, it's gone. the only exertions to this are losses incurred through exploits,bugs and server-side issues.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.16 12:12:44 -
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I'm guessing the thread title may have misled people a bit - I'm assuming you are asking less "can CCP reimburse", and more "should my corp/alliance/coalition reimburse".
From experience, generally speaking, unless you are in a crap Alliance or Coalition (although, you are in Intrepid Crossing... I think the joke will tell itself here), you will probably want to get in contact with your diplos, both to hopefully get reimbursed (its traditional for awoxers corps to pay up for losses or get kicked along with their bad member, after all it was their shoddy recruiters that let the bad apple in), and so that the rest of your alliance can be warned about the bad member and get him kicked before he racks up too many more of your compatriots. Entirely down to your organisation though. |

RedWyvern
Old Spice Syndicate Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2015.02.16 12:27:12 -
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Aralyn Cormallen wrote:I'm guessing the thread title may have misled people a bit - I'm assuming you are asking less "can CCP reimburse", and more "should my corp/alliance/coalition reimburse".
From experience, generally speaking, unless you are in a crap Alliance or Coalition (although, you are in Intrepid Crossing... I think the joke will tell itself here), you will probably want to get in contact with your diplos, both to hopefully get reimbursed (its traditional for awoxers corps to pay up for losses or get kicked along with their bad member, after all it was their shoddy recruiters that let the bad apple in), and so that the rest of your alliance can be warned about the bad member and get him kicked before he racks up too many more of your compatriots. Entirely down to your organisation though.
haha! we're a sleeping giant dude, a sleeping giant  
yep, sorry this is along the exact lines you described, I'm not referring to a CCP reimbursal - apologies if I could have been a bit clearer in my OP
thanks for the replies so far folks!
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Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
285
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Posted - 2015.02.16 13:53:00 -
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Well getting shot up by a blue is not what i would call an awox. An awox is taking substantial assets and cash from the corp and running. Shooting a few blues is sort of Meh. It is like spies in public NPSI fleets, again... meh.
Death and Glory!
Well fun is also good.
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Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.16 14:01:56 -
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Delt0r Garsk wrote:Well getting shot up by a blue is not what i would call an awox. An awox is taking substantial assets and cash from the corp and running. Shooting a few blues is sort of Meh. It is like spies in public NPSI fleets, again... meh.
Actually, that's exactly what the character Awox is famous for (and how it got named that) - the name has just got a bit stretched since.
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RedWyvern
Old Spice Syndicate Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2015.02.16 14:10:22 -
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Aralyn Cormallen wrote:Delt0r Garsk wrote:Well getting shot up by a blue is not what i would call an awox. An awox is taking substantial assets and cash from the corp and running. Shooting a few blues is sort of Meh. It is like spies in public NPSI fleets, again... meh. Actually, that's exactly what the character Awox is famous for (shooting up people under the cover of blue standings), and how it got named that - the name has just got a bit stretched since.
Allegedly, this is the real AWOX right here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie-2DrRHV4Q
My favourite comment, 'enjoy your stents' |

Ka'Narlist
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.02.16 14:25:42 -
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Aralyn Cormallen wrote:unless you are in a crap Alliance or Coalition (although, you are in Intrepid Crossing... I think the joke will tell itself here) From my experience when people come to this forum to ask about how stuff is handled inside their corp/ally/coalition they usually are in a crap one  |

Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2015.02.16 15:11:06 -
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This thread is a great test of who actually reads the OP.
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Faylee Freir
Defining Harassment
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Posted - 2015.02.16 15:27:00 -
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For diplo reasons most corps will reimburse the loss. It's worth bringing up, yes. |

Lan Wang
Coreli Corporation The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2015.02.16 15:28:14 -
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Crumplecorn wrote:This thread is a great test of who actually reads the OP.
confirmed i read it wrong :)
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
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Posted - 2015.02.16 15:40:15 -
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RedWyvern wrote:Hi folks, just wondering what the done thing is generally when a blue AWOXes? I got dumpstered last night by a 'coalition-mate' who locked me down while his buddies (from a red corp) jumped in and stomped all over me. I'm happy to suck it up because 'eve', 'content' etc, I've never been AWOXed before so it's kinda cool to be able to add this to the list of stuff I;ve done/had happen in eve - but if losses like this tend to reimbursed by the corp the AWOXer infiltrated, then no reason not to raise it with them I guess?!  Cheers in advance
I got awoxxed once in Fountain. A blue bomber came in and pointed my Vindicator and his neutral buddies in bombers came in and killed me.
It was my own damn fault, I had an alt in a Tengu hat I dula boxed for protection but I was using it to check the belts when I got pointed. I warped the tengu to the vindicator and killed a few bombers but the vindicator popped. At least they didn't get any loot, and I recovered all the good stuff off the Vindi (loot fairies be praised).
I used it as a learning experience. ALWAYS fit to survive instead of max profit and if you have a 'suicide defender' alt that you rat with, don't send it to the mother F%^&*$ belts looking for officer spawns when it should be protecting you lol.
(The above is what happens when you take responsibility for your failures instead of blaming CCP for letting it happen, because taking responsibly makes you get better at what you were doing so bad things happen less).
Edit: I did get reimbursed by the alliance the awoxxer belonged to. |

RedWyvern
Old Spice Syndicate Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2015.02.16 16:31:56 -
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thanks again all, I'll raise it this evening and see how I get on |

Belt Scout
Thread Lockaholics Anonymous
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Posted - 2015.02.16 17:16:56 -
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I wanna get reimbursed for my time spent reading this.
*and typing that^^
**and that^
(and this too)

They say most of your brain shuts down on the EvE forums. All but the impatient side, and the sarcastic side. No wonder I'm still awake.
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Serene Repose
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Posted - 2015.02.16 17:54:03 -
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So...THIS is the infamous "creating content" part - bovine scatology on GD. Oooh. I'm impressed! 
Treason never prospers. What is the reason?
Why, if it prospers, none dare call it "treason."
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Pok Nibin
Filial Pariahs
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Posted - 2015.02.16 17:54:49 -
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Serene Repose wrote:So...THIS is the infamous "creating content" part - bovine scatology on GD. Oooh. I'm impressed!  Sacrasm will get you anywhere...no...EVERYwhere!
Dont fight it; Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs; You know you want to.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2015.02.16 18:28:33 -
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RedWyvern wrote:Hi folks, just wondering what the done thing is generally when a blue AWOXes? I got dumpstered last night by a 'coalition-mate' who locked me down while his buddies (from a red corp) jumped in and stomped all over me. I'm happy to suck it up because 'eve', 'content' etc, I've never been AWOXed before so it's kinda cool to be able to add this to the list of stuff I;ve done/had happen in eve - but if losses like this tend to reimbursed by the corp the AWOXer infiltrated, then no reason not to raise it with them I guess?!  Cheers in advance
AWOX reimbursements? Classic.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
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Ptraci
3 R Corporation The Irukandji.
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Posted - 2015.02.16 18:30:18 -
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RedWyvern wrote:Hi folks, just wondering what the done thing is generally when a blue AWOXes? I got dumpstered last night by a 'coalition-mate' who locked me down while his buddies (from a red corp) jumped in and stomped all over me. I'm happy to suck it up because 'eve', 'content' etc, I've never been AWOXed before so it's kinda cool to be able to add this to the list of stuff I;ve done/had happen in eve - but if losses like this tend to reimbursed by the corp the AWOXer infiltrated, then no reason not to raise it with them I guess?!  Cheers in advance
Not come and whine about it on the forums, for one. |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.16 18:39:53 -
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Crumplecorn wrote:This thread is a great test of who actually reads the OP. yup , you got me.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Vyl Vit
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Posted - 2015.02.16 18:49:50 -
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Crumplecorn wrote:This thread is a great test of who actually reads the OP. I read it. Now I need an eye transplant and my memory recalibrated.
Anyone with any sense has already left town.
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
9801
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Posted - 2015.02.16 19:03:31 -
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Serene Repose wrote:So...THIS is the infamous "creating content" part - bovine scatology on GD. Oooh. I'm impressed! 
Yes it is.
In my case it taught me to be on the ball even when the null system was 'blue'. It (re) taught me to fit my ship to survive, it taught me to accept a slightly shorter pile of isk for that safety (in the form of a micro-jump drive, ecm drones and a energy neut in the high, which is why I switched from vindi to mach for ratting). it taught me to be less greedy and keep my alt close rather than run it around belts looking for more isk.
Weeks later, ratting in a Mach, I fought off a Cynabal (not an awox, this was a wormhole guy who came in) and was able to warp off (it caught me stuck on the rocks in a Haven). I nueted his ass, ECM droned him then MJD'd and got away. My loss was 5 ecm drones instead of 1 new Machariel.
The rush I felt for surviving to isk another day is something I can still feel. sorry EVE isn't the thempark you;d like were CCP is trowing new 'content' at you every patch, but that's a 'you' problem not a 'them' problem.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
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Posted - 2015.02.16 19:37:12 -
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Serene Repose wrote:So...THIS is the infamous "creating content" part - bovine scatology on GD. Oooh. I'm impressed! 
HTFU Eve is a litterbox.
Oops. I mean sand. Sand!
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Vyl Vit
1058
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Posted - 2015.02.17 01:05:58 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Serene Repose wrote:So...THIS is the infamous "creating content" part - bovine scatology on GD. Oooh. I'm impressed!  Yes it is. In my case it taught me to be on the ball even when the null system was 'blue'. It (re) taught me to fit my ship to survive, it taught me to accept a slightly shorter pile of isk for that safety (in the form of a micro-jump drive, ecm drones and a energy neut in the high, which is why I switched from vindi to mach for ratting). it taught me to be less greedy and keep my alt close rather than run it around belts looking for more isk. Weeks later, ratting in a Mach, I fought off a Cynabal (not an awox, this was a wormhole guy who came in) and was able to warp off (it caught me stuck on the rocks in a Haven). I nueted his ass, ECM droned him then MJD'd and got away. My loss was 5 ecm drones instead of 1 new Machariel. The rush I felt for surviving to isk another day is something I can still feel. sorry EVE isn't the thempark you;d like were CCP is trowing new 'content' at you every patch, but that's a 'you' problem not a 'them' problem. Thanks for letting us know what we always suspected. Some people can apply common sense. Others require a sledge hammer between the eyes to get a point.
Anyone with any sense has already left town.
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Iyacia Cyric'ai
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.17 06:54:24 -
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I got awoxed when I played Taylor Swift on our mumble fleet comms. NO REGRETS! |

Sean Parisi
Fugutive Task Force A T O N E M E N T
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Posted - 2015.02.17 07:03:36 -
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Serious answer here. Contact said blues corporate contacts and explain that you were AWOXED - one of two things will happen. Diplomatic sh*t storm where they are trying to sort out what happened and you get reimbursed. Otherwise, they laugh at you and tell you to suck it up. |

Anthar Thebess
870
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Posted - 2015.02.17 09:47:21 -
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Do the same to other 2 BLUEs that are not in your alliance. Email them that they need to do the same. 2 days and the blue donut is gone. |

RedWyvern
Old Spice Syndicate Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2015.02.17 09:54:16 -
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Sean Parisi wrote:Serious answer here. Contact said blues corporate contacts and explain that you were AWOXED - one of two things will happen. Diplomatic sh*t storm where they are trying to sort out what happened and you get reimbursed. Otherwise, they laugh at you and tell you to suck it up.
Thanks again for the replies folks! For those of you are who interested, the corp that recruited the AWOXer were kicked from the renter alliance. I believe they've been set blue for the time being until their CEO gets online to sort out the situation. Apparently, they will be kicked permanently unless amends are made.
Not the most engaging discussion to ever grace GD I'm sure, but I don't doubt that an account of how this situation played out for me will be of use to some people at some point, so mention-worthy for that reason alone!
Cheers (mods, you can lock/delete as I think this thread has run it's course)
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CCP Logibro
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.17 10:37:04 -
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Thread locked at OP request.
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